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I see Davey has had suggestions to put on a double now for the December race
Glad all went well at the Heller, hard work though.
I did my run this morning but it didn't go very well. I had stomach cramps so lots of walking from 4-miles, and then ran/walked the last 2-miles to make it to 6. I'd planned to do 10, so not ideal, but hopefully it'll pass.
Cal-If I hadn't ran so well at rhyl I'd have been happy with yesterday.As i took the last couple of miles easy I'll be able to get s decent run in after work.47 miles is impressive.
Shades/Cal-can hardly claim it as a podium when I beat so few,even though I have been telling people in work today I finished 2nd in a race.
Cal - well done on the mileage for the week. I have visions of you running through the park pursued by security guards
Ian - you were 2nd in a permitted race, it's not your fault that a few others didn't make the start line.
Jelly - glad you're feeling stronger and making your plans for next year too. Re Davey's races, you can certainly run the December one off your Cornish training. It's up to you if you want to run the January one, that is your PB race after all.
Seems odd the race entries aren't open yet for the Cornish, should be soon I guess.
Do you know when entries for DD open?
Good run this morning but it was really humid, like running in a sauna.
I'm doing Kingsbridge 10k on Thursday.
Shades, yes feeling a bit better again today. I'm running with the club tonight on an "away run", with meal afterwards. I'm just debating whether to go for a SUP or not, but really I should get on top of some house work/paper work that I've been putting off
Just to confirm that Chair is planning on opening the DD entries again in November, but no exact date as far as I'm aware.
Hope you're out on that SUP, the housework can wait
No doubt you and Jelly will hear early about when the DD entries open for 2019.
Very humid today, don't think I'll be doing any/much housework today.
Cal- that's an impressive mileage week.
13 miles done today when I woke up from my night shift. Felt a little tougher than normal but I put that down to not running much at all over the past 3 weeks due to my work commitments. I think I was only out for about 4 or 5 runs in that time.
shades I'd do my alternate 2 mile reps usually the same as my mile reps, my easier ones would be sub 9 min miles and the faster ones will be sub 8 min miles, if feeling fairly fit then sub 7.45 and hope to get some miles to sub 7.30 (7.20ish is HMP). Well done for getting out early for the run, its certainly warming up out there.
Big G that's a decent parkrun without a full effort, does push you a bit when you have people around you. Always great when you get feedback from peeps at races, you know it's a job well done.
Ian, 2nd place is a finish in the top 1/3 in the field lol, it was last minute and no need to let it bug you, we all have bad days and would like things to go better.
Jelly shame Cornwall marathon wasn't a couple of weeks earlier, also missing Eden project as have a half marathon in Peterborough that day too.
Cal well done on the mileage! that's decent 18 miler and hope the ankle is okay
Steven well done for getting out, hopefully will get back into the swing of things
Friday finished work and did 8x8sec hill sprints then ran commuted to the next station 7.5 miles in total. Didn't get a run in during the weekend due to volunteering at Heathrow, really enjoyed the experience! Had to help Elaine Thompson (jamacian 200m runner) she had two others but between them had 8 huge suitcases, they had been to monacco last week but still 2 races all that kit!!!! plus she didn't even run.
Also a lovely athlete Lisanne De Witte, dutch 400m runner (got a bit of a crush on her) she came over with just a cabin bag with a training kit for that day and her race kit. Had a good laugh and compared our training... she focused a lot more on diet than I did lol.... her long runs were no more than 5km and a max of 20-25 miles a week! We did both agree that 1500m/ mile was the worst event that ever existed and was an evil existence!
Also met Mariya Lasitskene's agent and when asked about training for the high jump she said a lot of it is mind control and hypnotherapy and managing the subconscious and our last guy was a Nike rep who offered us whatever kit the atheletes didn't want we could have if we met him today but as there were no shoes, not much point.
Training didn't happen over the weekend however did manage to fit 2 sessions into a single run today, tried 6 miles with middle 4 miles at mp and struggled to keep the pace going for the final mile, then followed up with 9 x 10 second hill sprints with about 80 secs recovery
Big G-Plenty of time to do housework when the weather changes.
Shades-10k again??
Rob-Sounds like you had an interesting weekend,tough session today.
Managed 8 miles after work but didn't bother today as I'm hoping to do a long run tomorrow and would have been a bit much 4 days on the run with a race and long run in amongst them.
steven - the hardest part of marathon training is trying to schedule it into your life, especially if you have a demanding job and work shifts.
Robert - maybe I'll skip the 2 mile reps if they're to be done at the same pace as the mile reps.
You should do the Cornish marathon one year, it's really special.
That's your weight training done helping the athletes with all their luggage. Great that you were quizzing them on training and diet, really interesting.
Years ago when I was doing a 12 hour race round a track an athlete and his coach came onto the track to do a training session for the high jump. As we were running round and round the track we were able to listen and watch the training session and it was so interesting.
Ian - yes, another 10km. I entered this one when I was on a high from finishing the last one. Big G tells me this is not as hilly as the last one so I'm looking for a season's best.
You're certainly ramping up the training.
It was so hot in my flat yesterday that I did nothing productive and another restless night sleep wise, but it did feel cooler when I got up and there was even dew on the cars when I went out. So fresher today for running and had a great run.
Well done on the 13, steven - can't be easy running after a nightshift. Or maybe it's easier? I don't know!
Robert - what a great experience meeting those athletes! Probably right about the mile - it's basically a really long sprint. Which is fab as I'm doing one on Monday evening when it's likely to be still very warm.
Good training, too!
In other news... My coaster club has announced the dates of its Poland trip (believe it or not there are a couple of good parks in Poland) which is the one trip I wanted to do next year, and it's on bloody Liverpool marathon weekend. So I basically either a) don't do the trip or b) drop out of the race, which a friend I've not seen in years is doing, and lose the entry fee as there are no deferrals. I'm already missing a Turkey trip I wanted to do due to it being the same week as Richmond half (also a crucial week in my pre-Chester training) so I'm a bit torn. If I do decided to drop out of Liverpool, though, it does mean I can potentially do DD. So there's that.
Cal, what a dilemma! Poland and DD get my vote
Shades/Ian, I unfortunately didn't get out on the SUP yesterday but I'm going out today most definitely. I went on a club run last night, organised by Jelly and one other. I did the 7.5 mile route around Haldon Forest - a great run but we were all dripping with sweat at the end. We had a nice meal at the pub afterwards too. Sausages and mash I had
Shades, I've entered Davey's December one too. £20 is hard to resist! It's a good way for him to get rid of his left over medals, and I'm not too bothered about which medal I get anyway. I know some may have one race they haven't done in the series so want that specific medal, but I'm not in that situation.
If I do all the events I have planned (and it's a big if at the moment, as I may not do Salisbury, plus who knows with injuries etc), I have 18 more marathons planned this year, which includes 2 doubles at Enigma events. After those Enigma events this year, it's unlikely I'll enter any more, unless I'm struggling for numbers at some point in the future. In fairness, two of the events I won in raffles, but the other two I entered early - I won't purposefully plan to do any more though, I don't think. There are two local events I could turn into doubles if I wish to, but I doubt I will unless I'm some how feeling very fresh. I've done 13 so far this year, so the second half of the year is a lot busier than the first half!
Cal-Tough decision for you,do you have a deadline to decide by?
Big G-18 more this year?some going as there's only 22 weeks left.
I had an email to say the flybe spring flights are out now and cover DD weekend, usually they have a sale at some point so will look then.
Tough decision to make re the Polish trip. It's so hard sometimes to decide what to do with so many date clashes of events. Of course I would be thrilled if you come down to do DD next year
Big G - Imerys is run on that white china clay soil, need sunglasses and I can't imagine how hard the surface must be now, must be awful, I've not heard any recommendations to do that event. I've heard good reports about Eden though, but neither on my list. I think Eden give you free entry to the Eden Project too.
I've pencilled Salisbury in on the list, can always be amended if you change your mind. I don't care what medal I get at Plym Trail either, I'm just doing it to make up for all those I've missed this year. Re Enigma, you do keep winning those competitions, Foxy must have great sales techniques.
Ian - I agree, not willing to travel too far for a shorter race, I think I have a 2 hour drive each way for the half in September and that's about the limit for a half.
Great that you've got your eye on the flights to Exeter for DD
Bloody hot here again, was deliciously cool in Pilates.
Off to enter Plym Trail now.
Shades, I know Chair and a few other Trotters rate Imerys as a training run in the lead up to DD, but it doesn't really interest me. As you say, the terrain is very tough (it's been described as "moon like") and it can be hot, with the sun reflecting back off the surface which I'd imagine adds to the heat. It's strange how some events get my interest and others don't, and what different events others runners are drawn to. I was chatting to Chair yesterday on the run, and he was saying his favourite ever race (other than London) is North Devon, which I can't really ever imagine I'll enter as it's a tough off-roader, which isn't really my cuppa tea. He's back into his marathons again now and said he's pretty much got one every fortnight over the next few months. I don't know how many he's done in total, but he's 6 away from 100 sub-4s (I know he's done well over 50 sub 3:30s within that). After he got to his 100 he had a bit of a break, but he's obviously enjoying them again now.
Shades, yes I do kind of regret entering the ballot for those free events. It was so easy to enter and I did it without really thinking I'd win, and then I ended up winning two of the things! Of course for me, they're not free anyway, with the travel and hotel needed. I need my head read sometimes...
I went out for a SUP this morning and I didn't fall in once, which is a marked improvement, and I had a good time out there. It's tiring though, I think because I know I am quite tense when I'm on the board. I'm sure I'll get better with continued practice. I do have a kayak seat for it as well, which I haven't used yet. I think I may take that with me next time as if I get tired I can can come back in and attach the seat, and then still get out and about around the coves etc, in a bit more of a relaxed manner!
Big G - I guess it will be a Factor 50 weekend for you at Enigma this weekend.
I think Imerys just falls at the right time in the race calendar for DD training, I don't think it's rated for anything else except it's not too far away, nothing more. I've heard a couple of 100MC guys say that North Devon is very tough, but a beautiful course.
We're all so easily led into entering more marathons/competitions
I think this is the weather to fall in when out on your SUP. I'm sure it's tiring, that's core work for you and you have to concentrate which makes it more tiring.
Plym Trail entered, I hope it's not too cold that day....can't believe I'm saying that while sitting in my office which is so hot
Ian hope the long run goes well, its very warm here
cal bit of a dilemma, I also am not a fan of wasting entry fees, I hate it! In the grand scheme of things can you justify adding the cost of the entry fees to the cost of the Poland trip? there's your answer now your friend has given you a pass. I was considering the fetcheveryone mile at woking track this weekend but other than parkrun and a training run we really need to tidy the house.
Big G, I understand Jo's annoyance, the thing that frustrates me the most with the drug cheats is that it wrecks careers, people quit/ retire as they aren't good enough, miss selection for a games due to them. That's a lot of marathons planned, good luck with that, don't think I could fit that many Parkruns in!
Shades, another 10k means closer to the 100!!! I'm quite lucky having London just a short train journey away, (the train takes forever though) means we have an array of races every week to choose from, just I don't want to do many 10k, I won a free entry and got one in a few weeks (same as cal).
Was very warm this morning, managed to get out 2 bottles of water and kept the pace sensible... 11 miles @ 8.50 pace hopefully get out over the next couple of days either earlier or later in the day.
17 miles today,few decent hills in amongst it made it quite tough at times.Luckily it was cooler today so heat wasn't an issue.
Today's TdF stage looks like it's going to be an important one. It's only 65K but with three big mountains, the experts seem to be predicting it could be a decisive day.