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Ian/Shades, I was just looking back at my marathons when I did DD in 2018 (2018 seems a looooong time ago) and between March and DD I did 7 marathons (one was a hilly LDWA event with little running, but it was good training I think). OK, I had a couple of disappointing events in those 7 (Great Welsh and Liverpool), but also a decent race (Barcelona). I need to try and figure out how to replicate that with no races, which is going to be a bit of a struggle as I'm not going to be doing 7 marathon distance training runs on my own. I haven't really given it serious consideration before now but I need to otherwise I'm just not going to get the long runs in as, for me, they won't happen unless I try and plan them.
Ian - don't choose a HR to start the race at, just don't allow yourself to go over say 155 for the first half. As with pacing by min/miles your level of fitness will dictate the pace of the 2nd half, you may go over 155 in the second half, that's OK.
I'm going to ramp up the mileage and get up to 80mpw if I can. I was hoping to have a bash at a 100mpw, to see if I could still do it at my advanced age. I was going to use North Dorset as part of that 100mpw attempt but that plan has gone out the window.
I suppose I'll have to do the long runs. But I also need to do my gym stuff too, won't be easy.
Don't forget you could adapt the Connemarathon plan for DD.
Re the Connemarathon plan, I can't recommend the tempo runs, too much for me.
Would be good if we could find some pre DD marathons to do. I wish EA would hurry up as if the news is good I'm sure there's plenty of race organisers ready to put on events.
Goodwood has been put back ftom Easter sunday to 3 wks later. No news on Dorney yet, but they have a reserve date of apr 24th.
Will you race in them?
Interesting Goodwood have moved their event. Everyone is waiting for EA/RunBritain and hoping for good news, must be more frustrating for race organisers than runners.
Rest day for me today, 15 days since my last rest day
I had a rest day yesterday,felt fine but wanted to run today so didn't want to run 6 days consecutively,might go and do loops of the hill.
After much procrastinating I finally bought a pair of 1080's,should be with me Tuesday.
You've had a very good week's training, hope it continues.
Hope you like the shoes. I've been checking them as well, the v10's seem to be selling fast. So I think I might buy another pair while I can.
Shades, I have messaged Davey and I should be able to get an entry for May.....if I want one. I'm similar to you that I don't love the events but it may be good for me in terms of the DD. He's got 12 on the waiting list for April, but seemed fairly hopeful I could get a place. He's not got the permits yet though.
11 miles this morning taking me up to 40 for the week (well, 39.9!). I headed for the undulating, country roads today before heading down to the seafront on the way home, and had a good run. The couple of miles or so on the front were into quite a strong wind so I didn't worry tuo much about HR along there, but all the rest was to HR.
Agreed interesting that the end of April will be ok for Goodwood.
I won't be competing with you for a place at Plym Trail
TR - trouble is, nothing replicates race conditions for trialling kit, especially shoes, so we really miss those shorter races.
Ian - you're really taking a risk running so much when you still have concerns about PF, most likely you are delaying complete recovery.
Can't help thinking that the long wait from EA/RunBritain isn't good news for our races. 😭
Anyone over 60 can book their vaccination via the app from today, they're certainly rattling through the age groups now.
Just trying to figure out what to do this week. I expect it'll be a rest day from running tomorrow (I've ran 3 days in a row, and don't want to push it too much at this point). The tri club have a 3k time trial event next weekend, but I want to get a couple of decent runs in if I can on Saturday/Sunday. I could do the 3k on the Friday but I've already signed up to a team event on Thursday evening on Zwift which I'm really looking forward to, so doing the 3k on the Friday probably wouldn't be a great idea (those Zwift races are tough!). I think I'll give the 3k a miss.
It's easy to see why some runners do their running training schedules over 10 days rather than the traditional 7 as it's not easy to get everything to fit in.
Yes, it can be tough fitting it all in in terms of balancing everything out. I would like to keep Zwifting for at least another month, but I may well have to dial that back a bit if the running increases. I did finish week 1 of the Zwift plan successfully (plus did one extra session, which was a race) alongside the 40 miles of running, but at some point the running will take over meaning I'll have to reduce the Zwifting. Hoping to do about 50 miles of running this week all being well, so I'll play the Zwifting by ear this week.
Keith - forecast much the same here. You not working?
Cal - so sorry to hear that, must be frustrating. You could do with some warmer weather, hamstrings like a bit of warmth.
I guess that's one way to get yourself out training. So increases by one km a day, 31 km on last day of the month?
I didn't even know BG were still on strike.
Rcouture - that's promising about EA, that means the press release should be imminent.
Re your choice of marathon, I'd wait until we know what Covid restrictions there will be that affect the races, that may make the decision for you. Also possible one of them may postpone their race date.
Your first marathon will be a PB and should be a special occasion for you so choose the one with the course and ambience that you'd enjoy most.
Shades, yes, I'm waiting for shorter races to be announced, and also the gym to open. The races on Zwift are very tough and I hope good training even for my running; they're easier on the body than blasting out a 5k or 10k time trial, although the races are still very hard efforts (i.e, I'm draped over the bike at the end, trying to catch my breath!). When the gym opens it may well be that I get outside on the bike and use the velopark there rather than ride indoors - I do like Zwift a lot, but I think the velopark and being outdoors is still preferable when the weather's good. Currently I've only got one bike though and I wouldn't want to take it on and off the turbo all the time. I may get a second bike, but I'll figure out that later on as the road bikes I have been looking at all have supply issues at the moment (road bikes along with turbo trainers have been very popular the last few months through lockdown).