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Hopefully your knee is nothing serious.
The few times I've done a 100 mile week I did a marathon as the first run of the week and training runs thereafter and I was fairly fresh at the end of the week. I did try twice to do a 100 miles over the Xmas holidays but the weather turned too cold for me and couldn't keep up the mileage. I need better conditions when doing more mileage, my 100 mile weeks were in August and when I went on to do two ultra PB's (6 hour and 50 miler) in the same week it was early September.
I expect your suffering today has a lot to do with the conditions on Saturday, that sort of run just takes it out of you. You'll be fine in a couple of days.
When Rik V did his 30 in 30 days, different venues, he went sub 3 for the first time part way through the series. I picked his number up for him in Dublin and met him on race morning, I think he'd flown in late the night before, he went on to run sub 3 that day too.
We did North Dorset/Belfast as a double, twice I think. It might only be 75 miles but as you know it's not a quick drive to home after NDVM, bath, change, pack. Drive to Exeter airport, fly to Belfast, taxi to hotel. Meet up with friends then sat up in the bar until just after midnight when race numbers arrived. Less than 5 hours sleep, then ran Belfast only 3 mins slower that NDVM and I had run as fast as I could at NDVM, still my best time at that race. What does help is not running the same course every day, I think a new and different course wakes the mind up to run better as it's new challenge. Apart from the 10 in 10 I've never done the same course on consecutive days except when it's a Director's Marathon pre the main event.
I've no plans to do any, it's a while since I've done any multiples. I have a running friend that used to love them, even went to the USA twice to do the series of races, think it was 7 days in 7 different places all organised by the same company. Same friend that was determined that we could do another triple of 3 countries in 3 days, England, Wales, Ireland, the old triple died was defunct when Snowdonia moved their race to the Saturday. The triple he wanted to do was DD/Wales/Cork, I wasn't keen as I knew it would be so painful after DD . Fortunately it was impossible as we couldn't get to Cork in time for the marathon, just as well as I expect I would have been talked into doing it.
6 miles today, foggy for a change, nice running conditions.
Pilates then gym this morning.
I didn't mind the twice a week lateral flow tests but I am finding the testing every time we go anywhere a bit wearing now, although I've got into the habit of getting the test out ready to do while my breakfast is cooking.
Shades, for the list, my time for day 1 was 3:49:50 and day 2 was 3:55:05. I am sure there is no problem, but I have sent the list off to be revalidated again just in case, and given them my plans for the 100th. I don't think I can order my kit yet, but I will be able to early Feb I believe. I am not getting much though. I'll get a couple of patches for my Trotters kit as I will be wearing that still, and a couple of vests, probably one for some kind of medal display, and one in case I want to do a foreign marathon in the kit. For the UK races I do, I will be wearing Trotters kit still I would imagine, unless I do a 100MC AGM marathon or similar.
Thanks for your times, I was going to remind you. Very close times for a double.
Re weight I expect your body is still holding onto a bit of fluid after the double, you'll probably drop a couple of pounds by Friday....dependent on those home made croissants though, 😋 they sound delicious. You need to eat if your body tells you too, you've found a weight that suits you and you can maintain and you'll get back there with no effort.
You haven't done any races since your wannabe status that might be considered questionable so all should be fine. I never had a 100 badge, I have the 200 and 300 badges, they're tacked to the wall with my medals, I couldn't be bothered to do anything with them, not keen on badges especially those that require sewing. When I see sewn on badges it reminds me a bit of Girl Guides, not that I was ever a girl guide.
It is nice to run in your 100 vest overseas.
Have you arranged for anyone to present your medal etc in Belfast? I suppose it's early to find out who will be there from the 100 club.
Rcouture - sorry to hear the girls are ill, usual back to school bugs I guess.
That was a good run this morning from you, no ITB and the other niggle not too obvious is progress. As Big G said the weight will go when you're training as normal. If you're carrying the extra few pounds around your waist then it probably feels worse than it is.
Pilates was good, tough. We did, what for me turned out to be the most powerful glute exercise I've ever done. Aim was to work the 2 smaller glute muscles as well as gluteus maximus and it did that. So powerful that having done the exercise on one side when I changed legs my glutes from the first side hurt just as much and both then hurt too. Instructor said that was because I had very good glute activation, it bloody hurt and didn't wear off until 20 minutes later. I am expecting DOMS tomorrow. I do try hard on the glute activation though.
Thankfully it was upper body in the gym afterwards.
Shades just the half and full for CBR, however if I make a wrong turn somewhere could make it another ultra! I do love a ‘green statement’ CSR at its best, look at what we’re doing… brush under the carpet all the other single use plastics in the race. I was shocked by new balance when I volunteered how every item was wrapped in plastic, jacket, shirt, hat, hi-viz bib, I’m not an eco-warrior but geez was a bit of a shock.
ian and cal great long runs!
Elle is off work with a throat infection, need to stay clear of her again 😆 probably from going back into school.
been a lazy few days, but got out and did 6 miles this afternoon to keep things ticking over. Was a bit lighter than it has been at 5pm, hopefully a sign that the days are getting longer
Rcouture - glad to hear you coming back from injury.
ROH - I noticed that about the days! I really hate running in winter.
Shades - I looked at Dublin once you started talking about it. let’s see how I get on at Manchester.
Cal - well done on the park runs!! I struggle to make the 9 ams!!
Ian - nice one on the 17 (?) I did 16 on Sunday. Found it pretty hard going from the off but kept the pace ok (avg 8:20) ; first mile was 9:20 (headwind, of course) so took a while to warm up.
Sorry if I’ve missed anyone!!
Half for me on Sunday. It’s flat; it’s fast (suits me, from a track background). I think I’m going to go out with the 1:30 pacer and hope my alpha flys pick up some of the work!!
Re hotels/home for marathons, I'm a poor sleeper, even worse away from home, but I'm OK in a Travelodge or Premier Inn as I've stayed in so many I am used to them, just have to remember where I am when I wake up.
Good you're still getting out there training, grim weather for running. I notice the daylight is improving by about one minute a day, but at least in the right direction.
Big G - OH will do some great photos of you if you don't have an 'official' presentation. Maybe nearer the time you'll find out it any of the 100 club will be there. Usually there are a few. Just make sure that you don't get your presentation done by PF who lives in NI, he's cheated in races along with a few other things. Last time I did Belfast all the 100 club runners blanked him, I haven't spoken to him for years.
bradders - Dublin is a very good marathon, it's ballot entry so you wouldn't get a place for this year, but maybe one for the future.
Your marathon training seems to be going well, good luck for Sunday, let us know how you get on.
Rest day for me today.
Food shop this morning, lateral flow test done, we've got frost think I'll have to de-ice the car
Robert, I have noticed the light hanging around for longer in the evening too, when I take the dog for a walk.
I did another 50-mins on Zwift yesterday afternoon. By all accounts, the system was having a lot of problems in the evening as they have this hugely popular 8-week series that runs every hour (Tour de Zwift) plus their racing league s taking place (Zwift Racing League), so it is a lot of people. There were apparently lots of people who couldn't log in or were getting booted out. I was fine when I went on at 3pm though, but that isn't the really busy time period.
Good luck, Bradders. I'm a morning person so no worries there.
Poor Elle, Rob! She's not having the best luck.
Big G, hope you're starting to recover from Plym.
Enjoy your rest, Shades.
Not sure if I pushed a bit too hard at the weekend or if there's another reason but I've been I've not been feeling great. Wondering if I overdid it at the weekend. I did have one night where I just didn't sleep (even got up at 2:30am to stretch, then had a cuppa and read before managing to go back to sleep again) and the next night had a couple of glasses of wine, which I don't usually do. So could be that, or a health issue. Did a really slow 5 yesterday before it got light...waited for daylight today and managed 6. It was a bit faster but should have been an MLR, really. I just wasn't feeling it.
Got back to find a letter from the hospital (I had a mammogram last week) inviting me back for a second check which is worrying...as I don't have enough to worry about with my heart. Of course I'm telling myself it's probably nothing, but I also thought that when I got my first dodgy ECG and that turned out to be something. FFS.
Have you done a lateral flow test just to check you don't have Covid, you were car sharing at the weekend weren't you?
Maybe you're just overtired.
8 miles this morning. Very cold and frosty, horrible running conditions, roads and pavements were dry where I live but a couple of miles down the road I had to change my route as ice on road and pavement and not safe to run. Couple of patches later where I had to stop and tiptoe carefully over the ice. Bring back the rain
Stretch class followed by leg/glute session in the gym this morning
For the record, lateral flow test was negative, not that the results are all that reliable.
Shades - Nice 8 miles in tricky conditions
I’ve woken up with this bug the girls have had and it’s a chesty one so no running today as planned. Saw physio yesterday who thinks my squat issue is manageable and has given me some exercises to work on. He’s also happy with ITB progress and for me to keep running which is good.
Just a leisurely walk with Tigg earlier and then an easy 30mins on Zwift. Seeing a mate for lunch in a bit, so walking over to Torquay to see him. We share lots of hobbies/interests, but he’s recently had a book published (self published) so looking forward to hearing about all that. It’s on Amazon for £14 in a hardback, but he told me he only gets £1 per book through Amazon! Good on him for getting it done though. It’s something I looked into a few years ago now, but I’ve not got the talent for it really.