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Berlin Marathon 2006
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The midweek runs are not too long, most of them last a half (depending on how you pace yourself), so you can time your runs to be around for the vital extra few minutes before disappearing....
Are your shoes still ok or have they had it? That's a likely cause if they have, as is if you've increased your load too suddenly/changes surfaces etc. Could be gait but I'd check the more likely stuff beforehand.
Completed over 20 miles in total today and my first 90 mile week since March. Only problem is I'm not running the marathon - only supporting. (note to self - do not fill out that form!)
Ran it last year though. Great course & really well organised. I'll be round the route supporting and will be on the look out for forumites at various points.
Who are you supporting??
How's everyone's training going??
Well I'm off for 15 miles tomorrow with a mate from my running club who's never done anything longer than 10K, but tends to run 6-7 minute miles quite easily. Should be interesting!
Am having qualms about this "three times a week" training plan, and think for July and August I'm going to make it four as often as possible, then drop back down to 3 during the last three weeks.
Enjoy your 15 miler LF - drink plenty - it looks mighty warm out there from my window!
Sounds like a tough weekend Mighty Red
Bev - I think exactly the same about these people churning out huge weekly mileages. What DO they do for a living? Presumably regular inexcessive/flexible working hours. It simply wouldn't be possible with my working hours and commuting.
Anyway - training! RW scedule says 3 x 2 miles fast (11-13 mins) with 800m recoveries. That's mighty fast for me. My legs don't do 6 minute miles ever!! It'll be a watered down version of this I think...
How did the 15 miles go left foot?
I set the pace although even then I struggled to keep it lively enough for my poor (much faster) running partner. Glad he was there, though, as without the support I probably would have been slower or cut it short. In the end I did about 14.5 miles in 2 hours 15 (including traffic light waits!) which is at least 30seconds slower per mile than I should have been running.
Mind you, my first long-ish run of the season always seems to be tough.
Summary: I've got a lot of work to do!
Left foot - my long runs always seem a bit of a struggle, because each one is a bit longer than the one before. Plus the heat at the mo probably makes a bit of a difference.
Did those 2 mile intervals yesterday - predictably slower than the schedule said I should - and ended up going to sleep for an hour afterwards, so it must have been quite hard work!
Did a slowish 9.35 miles tonight. Schedule said 7 but I usually try and make my Wednesday run a bit longer than that so did a bit extra
I'm aiming at about 40 to 50 miles a week which should get me in between my target time, if you think i'm well off the mark can you let me know.
By the way if anyone would like to meet up in Berlin, i'm going out on the Thursday b4 the race and plan to do a bit of sight seeing, feel free to tag along.
Knock off 3 weeks for tapering and that`s only 10 weeks of serious training.
Having done Snowdon numerous times, I wasn't overly bothered. It did make me realise that the challenge is more difficult than it seems (mainly because of the driving), and is almost impossible to do without at least 2 non-walking drivers.
There is nothing you can do about the weather, and even though we were seriously well equipped, 3 sets of clothing, walking poles, GPS, map & compass, wet weather gear, energy drinks, reserve water, food etc. When you spend 4 or 5 hours in strong winds in the cloud constantly being wet, it can take it's toll on the best of us.
The terrain on the first 2 is very tough, a lot of big rocks and not much path. You need very good moisture wicking hiking socks, and a decent pair of boots (most walkers I have spoken too say give gore-tex boots a miss as they make your feet sweat and take even longer to dry out than non-membrane boots). I would also recommend nipping to Asda and buying some Scholl Gel insoles as these have a moisture wicking layer, and after the evil rocky paths, your feet will love you for it.
Hope this helps, and I hope you are going on an organised trip with experienced walkers. When it gets cloudy it is very difficult to see the cairns, let alone use them to navigate (visibility was down to 4 metres on the Pike).
One final piece of advice, unless you walk a lot downhill, you will suffer severe soreness. This is because of something called eccentric contraction. This basically means that your quads are over-stretching, and as you foot hits the groud, three times you body weight hits your overstreched quads and they are not designed to do this for a prolonged period of time, let alone 3 mountains in 24 hours. Depending on how fit or experienced at downhilling you are, there will be a 3-5 day recovery period. Bear this in mind when looking through your training plan.
As for the training, I have given my body 3 days to repair, and I went in the gym for the first time last night to do some serious foam rolling (that really hurt!) and gentle up-hill walking, followed by a quick jog, then a little sprint. Felt a lot better this morning, will try a fast paced 3 miler to see how my legs react this evening. I think I have a 12 this weekend, so we'll see how well I have recovered.
Know what you mean about the downhills. On a smaller scale, I ran the Boston marathon in April, and the course is mainly downhill. By 20 miles my quads were very sore and it was a struggle to finish. I'll have to see how I feel after this Saturdays training walk, although it wont be as steep as any of the 3 peaks, but it will be a good indication. We are going to Snowden in July.
I'll let you know how I get on.
Well done on the 14. I struggled with my long one this week. I had much more encouraging run today. A swift 5 miles at a pretty decent pace.
Good point LF, though when I finish my first 20 I think, yes this is possible! Not sure I'd be so confident if I hadn't gone beyond 15 in my training though....
Still had enough in my legs to do a gentle 5 yesterday, although as you say, the thighs were a little stiff. Got a 10 mile league race on Sunday. should be fine by then.
I'm supporting primarily a couple of people from my running club, but realistically anyone who'll wave / smile back!
Bev,
I actually managed 128 miles in my Christmas hols last year. Work - yes, sleep - yes, eat - you wouldn't believe how much!
I am tempted to enter and treat it as a training run - I managed 24 miles yesterday, over 2 runs, but it only took 2:43 of running. I'm sure it wouldn't do me too much harm pacing a friend round in a sub-3, but I have other priorities for my running over autumn / winter.