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Is anyone still training like this and how is the training going?
I have been doing all my long runs and recovery runs at 70% WHR. For my Tempo and LT runs I have running at a pace prescribed by the McMillian Pace Calculator based upon actual race times (and predicted marathon time from my half time).
Ran Leicester marathon in just over 3 hour 9 minutes.
I would say that it does work but running at 70% WHR will only get you so far.
Impressive time for the marathon.
What you are saying is what I have heard too. I have been using HR monitor training for my base training. The formula was slightly different to John L Parker but it has only worked out a few bpm difference for steady runs. Which was all I did for three months apart from races. I got some decent results. I have just started to use John L Parkers method with one long run, one tempo run (above 85%) and three to four easy runs per week. I think just adding a tempo run each week will probably make a difference after the base training.
I have heard alot about Mcmillian pace calculator, it s seems a popular way to train, how have you found it? Iam debating using that or hr training at the moment.
I don't run any races less than 10 miles. Therefore, when I had to do Tempo runs and Intervals at 10k or 5k pace I didn't have any real clue at what pace I should be running at. McMillian gave me the answers.
Just for the record the McMillian calculator had my Marathon predicted time as 3:09:28......I managed 3:09:20. Can't get much closer than that.
I was running 70 miles a week to acheive my 3.09.20 with midweek runs of 12 and 15 miles, not to mention 17 to 21 at the weekend. So, my stamina was greatly improved too.
The heart rate training certainly helps me to training effectively on every run.
There's a copy of the John L. Parker book `Heart Monitor Training for the Compleat Idiot' available on ebay. Might be a cheaper option than amazon!
BR - are you the person selling it?
No it's mine, listed under BR's ebay account as I don't have one.
Obviously not allowed to advertise on here
Hilly, did you find it helpful?
I have a feeling I borrowed a copy from a library a few years back and didn't really get on with it (mainly because I didn't realise that WHR's varied so much between people)
At 51 my training HR zones are those of a 29 year old using the 'averages' that are often published, If I were to follow the averages for my age - 51 - I wouldn't get out of bed. So it is important to find the real numbers for your own body.
Despite the expense I got a copy and this time I found it useful because I know my Max and Resting Heart Rates. The book offers examples to start you off, and tells you how to find out the real figures. I think I must have skipped that bit on first reading!
It has been quite strange to run so slowly, but I have managed to go further and to break the one-hour-non-stop barrier by following the advice in Parker's book, so I'll stick with it for now.
Anyway, this week I received the first copy that I'd ordered couple of months ago and was lost in the post, so I've listed it on Ebay
I've only just recently began training with an HRM which my mate gave me. It's an old Polar one, (not sure of model number). It lets me see HR during a run and afterwards I can see total time and average HR. It's pretty basic but it's helping me to train at the correct intensity for the time being.
Before I started using it I was convinced that I wanted a Garmin Forerunner 305 for my Christmas, however, now i'm becoming more inclined to go for the Forerunner 50. Does anyone have any advice on which would be better?
As far as training is going, I read the article by Hadd (i think?) and am currently using the 180-age+5 formula to give me a training HR of 155. I'm using this for all runs just now as i'm trying to concentrate on improving my base level of fitness before beginning training in earnest for the Edinburgh Marathon in January.
I treid that method myself and got some good results from it. You will gain alot from if you do a decent amount of mileage or build upto a decent amount. I got upto about 40 miles per week and it helped me alot.
I only want to train three days a week;
0.5-1.5hr Monday & Wed
1.5 -3 hrs Sat run
I want to keep things simple - using %MaxHR & run duration to plan my training for a race in March - are there any training plans out there for me?
Here's a link to a cycling forum where you will find heart rate training zones from the following orgs/coaches...
It requires dowloading an excel file, I've used it with no problems but rememeber to virus scan before opening it just in case.
I've actually just realised that it's the Maffetone method (as described in the 'want speed?, slow down!) article i'm following and not the Hadd one! I have the read the article by Hadd and that was what confused me. It doesn't take much!
I did a maximum aerobic fitness (MAF) test last night over 4 miles and the results were;
1. 8.462. 8.463. 8.484. 8.57
In the example of a MAF test in the article the differences between each mile are much greater. It was a bit windy last night and I did notice that my HR was not constant throughout the test. I'm not sure whether I should try it again tonight or not.