Has anyone been injured and felt that they'd never be able to run again?

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  • M.ister WM.ister W ✭✭✭
    Really sorry to hear about your injury, Trinity. It must be so frustrating, not knowing what the problem is. Have you seen a doc? The doc here at work is an ultra-runner and has disagnosed a couple of injuries that the physio couldn't spot.

    I hope you get it sorted out very soon.
  • Thanks everyone

    Good luck for your debut marathon Rhino...which one is it?

    Mister W...I haven't been to the GP yet, I'm afraid to say that that's a last resort
  • Trinity, sorry to hear about the injury. I hope it gets sorted out soon! There is nothing more frustrating than not being able to do something you love.

    And here's me about to start whinging about a chest infection that won't go away and not being able to run for a 5 weeks.

    Best of luck.
  • thanks trinity, its white peak
  • Trinity,
    I spent 6 months seeing if my sore knee would heal.... no such luck - then spent 18 months on many waiting list, test after test... still no definite diagnosis.... eventually I was given an arthroscopy (sp?) and they found out i had a deformed cartilage (something i was born with and just decided one day to cause me agro).
    To cut it short, despite the medical profession not being able to find out the problem, i persisted (almost nagged) until they took it further and further.
    now, 6 weeks post op.... still can't blooming run (but did manage 45 seconds on the treadmill this morning!!) demoralised and fed up but with so many on here having either been there or going through it, where there's a will, there's a way.
    so my advice NAG NAG NAG..... :-)
  • ((trin)) I am so sorry to hear that after the initial visit your knee hasn't got any better.

    I was sort of in a similar position after I damage my medial knee ligaments (falling off a wind surf)... although the knee got better I developed incredibly painful shins and just couldn't run... i got my frustration out by doing all my running with an aqua jogger in the pool instead. Eventually i went and got my gait etc analysised and they spotted that the weight going through my legs was uneven, which indicated that possibly my pelvis was out of line. A visit to a fantastic chiro confirmed this and after only a couple of treatments I was back running pain free again! I still regulary go to the chiro to have my back and pelvis put back, but each time the gap is getting longer (it is now 1.5 years). It was expensive (and still is), but i decided that I would far rather spend the money so that i could and can run again than sit at home feeling miserable, because at the end of the day i am a runner and one that doesn't do that is not fun.

    Good luck and I hope that you find the cause soon, maybe a trip to a chiro might help... and remember there is a reason, and you will find it and you will get back running.

    Oh and one final thing... the break actually did me masses of good and I came back alot stronger, in fact i swear that that was the spring board for where i am now...

    Spans x
  • Spans... thank you

    Reading your post is almost making me cry.

    I am just so frustrated with it all and barely clinging to some kind of hope that it will be correctly diagnosed soon, so I know what I'm dealing with.
  • Trin - I share your lack of faith in doctors but you should only need to visit your GP once to get a referral to a consultant and you can ask for a second opinion if the first consultant doesn't come up with anything. If I hadn't spent the money on the arthroscopy (despite a clear MRI) I could have rested for 6 months and as soon as I tried to run again it would have been exactly the same.

    Whilst I might not know when/if I can run again I do know what the problem was, that it wouldn't have got better and that now I have a chance, which I didn't have before.

    Keep looking for that answer, you'll find it.
    If you think you can or you think you can't you're probably right.
  • Trin - how are you doing? Have you managed to get a referral via your doctors yet. Am keeping fingers crossed for you that you find a solution soon. Keep in touch and let us know how you are doing. x
  • Trin, I posted on the 50 mile thread but thought I'd put a few lines on here too. I would agree about the GP route, get a referral as that is after all what the NHS is there for. However, I am thinking about the private route as I have now waited 23 weeks only to find out I'm not even on the list to see the Ortho Consultant! Various blunders including the GP losing my original referral after me waiting 12 weeks and then he put the wrong info on my referral which has caused another delay. As you know, I've still struggled on with the running but have never had a proper diagnosis and that is the frustrating part.
  • That is one of the reasons why I don't go the GP route...

    When the physio I was seeing realised that he wasn't able to get to the route of the problem he referred me on to a colleague who is another step up the ladder.

    I saw him yesterday and I now have an MRI scan booked for next Friday. Going the NHS route would take about 9 months to get this far.

    Ok, the guy I saw yesterday has a £70 initial consultation fee and the MRI is going to cost £200 but I'd sooner know now than have to wait and do nothing. It just means I need more overtime at work to pay for it all.

    The Orthopedic Physiotherapy Specialist I saw yesterday has an idea of where the problem lies but an MRI scan will define it.

    The bad news is that there is no treatment for this kind of problem, the only thing I can do is strengthen my quads and try and retain some fitness at the gym....and wait. I can't run at all for 6 weeks, and then it'll be a case of trying it out. If my leg still doesn't like running then it'll be another 6 weeks off.

    And there are no guarantees that I will be able to run as much as I have done, and if that's the case I don't know what i'll do :(
  • (((Trin))) hope you get the result you want from the MRI. I have to say that £200 is dirt cheap for an MRI. In my case it also didn't show the problem.
    If you think you can or you think you can't you're probably right.
  • What did they say it was? And would you consider paying for an op if that was the result of your MRI? This is the question I have been asking myself. I have every sympathy for you Trin, 6 weeks can feel like a lifetime. I'm off to the podiatrist AGAIN tonight - paid £250 for orthotics which gave me more injuries. Like you I would not like to count up how much I've spent on treatments.
  • Trin, just read what you said about crying in your car - I seem to find it hard to keep it together when talking to people about my injuries, glad to know I'm not mad!
  • LMH... it's cheaper because I'm going to a research centre in Cheltenham. If I went and had it in Bristol privately it would cost in the region of £700.

    You've got me concerned now though, if an MRI didn't show up your problem maybe I'm wasting my time...and money :/
  • (((trin))) This new guy sounds really good, and yes sometimes an MRI doesn't show up anything, but from the sounds of things he has a good idea of what it could be and therefore what to ook for, so it is definitely worth it. And strengthening your quads doesn't sound so back, think how good you will be at racing up and down hills?

    Did he say you could cycle or anything instead? if so do you have a MTB that you could get out on? I think that the biggest thing that always pulls me down when i am injured is the lack of being in fresh air... which is where just being out on the bike, splashing through puddles etc really helps...

    Fingers crossed that they find what they are looking for in the MRI. x
  • I paid for an arthroscopy despite the clear MRI and it wasn't what they thought it was but they did find, and treat, something significant that 'could have manifested as the symptoms I presented' so, my knee is in better shape than it has been for many years but I won't know until I try if I can run again and if it's dealt with the initial presenting problems. Glad I spent the money (and I haven't got it really) and have to hope that's it sorted at least if it isn't I shall know what's not causing it!
    If you think you can or you think you can't you're probably right.
  • Thanks Spans

    Yes I can do other stuff, anything so long as there is no impact.

    I've got a bike covered in dust in the garage...might get the hose on it and see if it still works ;)

    But not today...I'm going back to bed coz I seem to have picked up some kind of bug :/
  • LMH... I won't ask how much an arthroscopy costs...don't really want to know at this stage.

    I hope it's worked for you and you can run pain free

    ...it's not much to ask really is it...running pain free
  • Trin, you might surprise yourself when (not if) you get back to running, fitness-wise. I found the long-run capability was still there just need to do some fine-tuning.
  • Trin - you look after yourself won't you - or rather you get Rich to look after you won't you ! It wouldn't surprise me if the bug wasn't a result of you laying off the running and therefore you body adjusting back to normal...a bit like when you take a holiday from work and fall ill! What I would do to spend the afternoon in bed though at the mo...!
  • What I would do to spend the afternoon runnin... it's all relative I guess

    I've slept for most of the day, don't feel tired anymore but still have stomach pain so i think i'll just have to starve this nasty bug out.

    Going over to Rich's for the weekend soon, and I'm sure he'll look after me...he usually does :)
  • Trinity, whats's the latest on your injury?
  • Hi cotty

    I got the results of my MRI and thankfully the pictures clearly showed what the problem was... hyaline cartilage damage and ulceration over the lateral facet of the patella.

    The physio said that this was probably caused by a tightness and strength imbalance within my quad muscles causing the knee to track wrongly.
    So he gave me 6 weeks of exercises and stretches to do to correct it. Every day I have to do 4 sets of 10 leg raises with ankle weights on both legs, I haven't missed a day so far and have totalled 1120 leg raises on each leg and today I move up to 4lb ankle weight.

    I don't know if it's working because I'm not allowed to run yet. The 6 weeks will be up on 20th July by which time I will have had 4 months off.

    I've all but forgotten what it's like to run, still, at least I haven't got the 'shorts tan' this year
  • I will keep my fingers crossed for you, I have had a sore hip since middle of May now and physio does not know if coming from back or hip, 2 different dr's have both told me to rest it. I was doing some power walking on the treadmill the other day and decided to jog at a walking pace and the next day it was aching again. It is just so frustrating, I officially am allowed to try it again on the 24th July!! Keep us up to date with your progress. By the way are you doing anything to replae the running?
  • fingers crossed for you too

    I haven't really been doing anything to replace running. To begin with I just wanted to give my leg the best chance of recovery. But now I guess I could try something... I just don't have much motivation if I can't run

    Anyway, I should be in bed now...I've just got home from night work

    I'll keep you posted :)
  • Hi Trin

    I've been back running about a month now. Hadn't been able to run since October. Very frustrating!

    I can only run now with a knee strap, can't run far or fast (but never could!). My knee feels a bit sore or stiff after a run and I ice it immediately. But it's great to be back running.

    I did quite a lot of cycling when I couldn't run. Learnt how to use my gears (well, I'd only every cycled a level few miles before - I hadn't really needed them). I cycled 47 miles one Sunday a few weeks ago - not the same as running but was pretty pleased with it.

    I've missed several races this year and am sick of spectating. :-) I've got my first race - Totnes 10k - in a few weeks time. (Remember numbers 1, 2 & 118). Am going to Berlin to watch others from my running club run the marathon in September - not sure I'm looking forward to that.

    I've also decided that I will never run more than 3 times a week now - and I will continue with the cycling.

    Hope your injury sorts out very soon for you Trinity. Stay strong.

    Val X
  • popsiderpopsider ✭✭✭
    Good to see you've got a definite diagnosis Trin - hope the leg raises work - you'll have strong quads anyway!
  • Hi Trin - just popping in to see if you have looked into the Pose approach to running. Meant to be an injury free running style. There was some debate about it years ago (03) on the Base Training thread and there is mucho good reading on the www. I have bookmarked one of the articles on it here but if you google it you should find weeks of reading.

    Morning everyone!
  • Thanks PSC but I did experiment with POSE a couple of years ago. I seem to remember that my calfs got quite tight but I persevered.

    However I still couldn't fully make the transistion so gave up on it.

    Since then though I found that, when I was running fast, I did retain some of the technique naturally.

    It remains to be seen if I will ever run fast again, let alone whether I can run in the POSE technique
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