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Nice racing SJ, Wardi, jools - congrats on another champs time.
That's a decent weekend's work TR.
Long run for me today, over in Bushy Park. Consistent pacing, felt good. I'm also doing the press-up challenge this year and today, mid-September, marks half way in terms of the total number of press-ups. Remembering to get them done is becoming as much of a challenge as anything else - today alone was equivalent to the first 22 days of January, but it's definitely helping the core.
Cracking race SJ and a solid time, well done.
Congratulations too for Jools for your Championship time & Wardi for the 3rd place AG.
Great LSRs from Selbs, TR & CD. Ahh Bushy Park, used to love that place for running when lived in London.
I am still awaiting a date to see the specialist about my suspected hernia, so any operation seems a long way off. Clocked 45 miles for the week with a fantastic 16 miles today which combined with a few bike and swim sessions is a decent week overall.
sj - cracking. Well done.
Jools - as elsewhere. I'm really pleased for you.
Wardi - well run and congrats on the AG podium!
TR - I tend not to go too hard generally in training anyway, but definitely keeping more control on it this time around.
OO.. good that you can still run with the hernia then, difficult to plan your races ahead though.
Oh LMH, hope vet visit went as well as it could. you've had a tough run of things, don't beat yourself up about your running as well. it will come back i'm sure once you get a better run of "life" things. but sorry Sunday's run didn't give youa bit of a lift, maybe the break from racing is a good idea for a bit.
Jools - congrats on hitting that target and back on champs start at VLM!
V nice HM racing SJ and Wardi, and well done on the podium Wardi!
CD - i failed on the press up challenge, lasted till July, but it got scuppered playing "rugby" with my then 6 year old lol! Did my back in and had to have a couple of days off. I imagine around now is when it starts getting really tough. What sort of sets are you splitting it up into? I got to the stage where i was able to split into 50's or 60's but i am already back to where 30s or 40s is hard enough work. Will give it another crack next year though. What autumn marathon do you have coming up, you sound in great shape.
So another Monday treadmill session of reps for me (and morning 5.5 mile jog commute) which ended up being just over 10 miles on the treadmill in 60 minutes with 3 x 15 reps and 15 x 1 min recovery jogs. Really not sure at all i can believe that treadmill, it's giving me silly HR to pace stats - but it's another session ticked off.
OO - good that you are able to tick over.
Selbs - its the effort that counts.
LmH - dont knock this years Yeovil time, im claiming a good 5 minutes on the Pugometer!!!!!!!
15m run home tonight. Been a big last week or so.
As long as it's the same treadie and it's showing a continual trend in the right direction it doesn't matter.
selbs - nice! As TR says it's the effort that counts.
30mins @ 6:28/mile yesterday as part of a 60min run. That heart-rate range feels a touch easier than Marathon effort, and 19 days previously I'd done the same run at 6:52 pace, so decent progress. I'll be doing one of these every Monday, building up to 60mins @ effort (3/4 effort in Lydiard parlance, 75-80% HRR for the HR enthusiasts). Aside from feeling stronger the best bit was that HR drift has massively reduced!
Sounds like good progress there TT.
There's some big miles from you recently TR.
v good progress TT - you always seem to get to quite fast quite fit - but it's all relative i guess since you are v quick!
CD - enjoy, that was my first proper marathon (dont count fun running London in 2001) back in 2008 when i pinged my calf around 16 miles. in hindsight getting around that one in 3:03 was a good effort considering the different colours my calf was the next day hobbling around barely able to walk. I remember it being bl&&dy freezing out at Staton island v early in the morning waiting for the start, but the atmosphere once about to get going and onwards was great.
I have a mate who is running his first ever marathon, think he's 51, we've trained a fair bit together. He has finished v close behind me in a couple of trail half marathons this year and i think he is a shoe in for sub 3. The way his training is going now, it's actually more about should he be more ambitious and go for sub 2:50 i think. yesterday he did a 22km (he works in kms - doing amsterdam) training run, with the middle 16km at 3:57m/km pace, and this is in the middle of pretty big mileage block (circa 80 miles per week) and a fast finish long run on Saturday of 34km where he averaged overall 4:31m/km and last 10km at sub 3 pace.
So, i'm not being pushy telling him he should have a go at sub 2:50 am I? All the numbers seem to be pointing that way to me. about 4.5 weeks out for both of us now.
Selbs.. would HR be elevated on a treadie? (hotter indoors etc). Oh & I ran 3:03 in 2008 as well though I didn't have to hobble any of it!
TT.. good steady progress, are you coping with the fibromyalgia reasonably well? I see JI has decided to bin Abo due to the FM condition, that must be gutting for him.
TR.. another good MLR commute in the bag!
Good progress TT
CD - i started Abo training early July and have done 10 weeks (inc 2 cut back wks), the ON weeks have all been 80 or more.
Selbs - as long as he has done the miles, his legs have a shock coming though so having some in the tank for the last 10k would be good. Set him a no faster than rule eg 6.35s. 2.52 first go is the way to go !!!!!
Nice surpise in my 10 inc tempo 6 commute today despite recent miles, im nearly back to where i used to be a few years back.
TR -- we almost reached crossover point this weekend; you did 24, and I did 25 on Sunday, purposefully bailing out before my legs felt _too_ trashed. (That was nominally fartlek, but you wouldn't recognise the faster bits as proper speed work.) Though after another 10M yesterday morning and a couple of family walks, my legs were still trashed big-time this morning and I only managed a glaical 5M. Usually I pre-train my quads for the lakes on the car park stairs, but I did my back in this time and so skipped the requisite training. So they'll be learning the hard way on the mountain descents, at least in walks, I'm not doing any fell-running.
LMH -- so sorry to hear all you've been going through, and that I'll miss you at York. Unless my legs perk up very soon, I'm not going to treat York too seriously, but will run it regardless.
SJ, Wardi, Jools -- nice one in the halves. (Did I already congratulate you on yours CD, I hope so!)
CD/TR -- ha! I do about 25 press-ups once a week as part of my half-hearted core exercises. Clearly not enough!
TR - nice on the tempo!!
selbs - I'd err on the side of caution, but realistically, on the first one, you'd expect a fade either way, so starting off splitting the difference and trying to pick it up if feeling good later would get my vote.
Wardi - I saw about JI
LMH - so sorry to hear about Grace on top of everything else you've got going on. As others have said, just run when you feel like it. You are definitely due some luck and hopefully 2020 (and the rest of 2019) will be full of huge positives.
selbs - sounds like you're in great form. I agree with you about your mate, but if sub-3 is very important to him, it might be better to be conservative. For my first proper marathon I was probably in a similar position but played it very safe to make sure I got my GFA.
TR - I'm looking forward to seeing how you go in the marathon. The bookies would put short odds on you nailing it I reckon.
CD - my 5k PB is still at Bushy Park from 2008 (I think). Good work on the press-ups - I might do it again next year as I really felt like it helped my running. Not sure I could do more than about 20 continuously now!
I don't really like beer so no point in the alcohol-free versions for me - I'd rather just drink water or squash. I do like the occasional cider though, particularly the sweeter ones. This year I'm fairly sure that I've had less alcohol than any year since about 1997 - mainly due to not much socialising/holidays! Probably less than 100 units in total this year.
My knee is still niggling - did 10M in 64 mins on Sunday but that seemed to make it worse. I felt pretty good in every other way, but having a few days off now to try to sort it out. Busy with work anyway.
Padams - bgger about the knee, hope it settles down, and re confirms your call to drop out of the ultra.
thanks all for the advice on my mate. he is a pretty competitive sort, been high level squash player all his life and still plays in his clubs top team, so it might be better to keep a lid slightly on expectations than risk the overeaching, which will be a part of his makeup anyway.
TR sounds like still going v nicely.
Wardi - it was more the other way around, the HR did not go up as high as i woudl expect, the treadmill and Garmin told me at end of session i'd done 16.2km and my avg HR had been 140bpm - which is 10bpm below marathon race average. That just can't be right i'm not that fit! well i might find out more tomorrow when try an outside MLR again, but my legs right now still feel trashed from yesterdays session!
Enjoy the Lakes CW - lovely part of the world!
Padams - oooh good idea, i know a lady that works in the local bookies, i eonder if she'd give me odd on a sub 255. Although maybe i should wait until fter Sundays 1/2? .........doesnt take me long to rack up yr 100 units !
TT.. when I was on tramadol for a bruised rib that used to make me very drowsy, in the end I reduced the dose!
Charlie.. a very nice week to spend time in the lakes, very jealous. By contrast it's bliddy awful when it's pithing it down up there.
Club run tonight, with a few miles done either side of it I managed to total 11.5m. Legs felt better than expected.
Berlin 29th September
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York 20th October
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Wardi
SJ
Abingdon
Selbs
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New York 3rd November
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Wardi - I've played around at reducing the dosage so am on the minimal I can get away with that still works for me. It dials down the body's receptors, so my tinnitus is completely gone, pains are reduced (I could always grin and bear them, but that's wearing, so it's nice not to), memory fog is pretty much non-existent, etc. Without it receptors are, spinal tap style, dialled up to 11, so if the trade-off is less alcohol that's a price I'm happy to pay.
Yesterday's long run. 80mins (up from last week's 70) @ 7:38/mile (down from last week's 7:48).
Thanks for the love Wardi, TT. It’s ok. I half expect to pull out of races these days. It’s a vicious circle, being able to train and get the fitness back only for a spell of Fibromyalgia to hit and I’m out of action. I just have to run shorter stuff really. As its neurological there is nothing I can do. Have a massive cramping knot in my calf at the mo. Anyway, may have a Cabbage Patch 10 up for grabs soon if I don’t perform anything close to Lazarus recovery soon. Watch this space.
Hope LMH is ok, I’m sorry to hear this. Take a few days off running and see how you feel. Padams – hope the knee problem shifts.
You sound in a good place with managing your symptoms TippTop and are regaining fitness with your usual amazing speed.
Sorry to hear that your knee is still playing up Padams. I hope the rest sorts it out.
How did your MLR go selbs?
I hope you get a great return on this block of training TR, you've certainly put in the work.
Hey TR - i've just used the forerunner 25 / cheaper Garmin, as my son has one and i have nicked it to compare to my wonky Fenix. I think you said something about it being no good as only showing 2 data fields, one being calories or something? I think that is just one of the two defaults, as I found you can change it to have 3 data fields showing at one time, and two different screen options, giving you 6 possible different data fields in run/race.
Yes it has less options than the "fancy" versions, but plenty enough i think with "Time, Distance, Pace, Calories, Lap time, Lap Distance, Lap Pace, Avg Pace".
i now have it on my usual of distance, time, and lap pace which is all i need really and it seems to work well. it is also good for a cheap version i think, in that it wirelessly links to garmin connect on your phone so no need for cords apart from charging, and can be got for £79.95 even from amazon. Anyway, i'd recommend it as a good gadget.
Not sure why i am advertising Garmin with my wonky one! although to be fair to them, they have tried lots of things to help, like giving me a Beta version of the software to trial (no better), and now they are offering a replacement, but we've tried that once before and it didn't work, but no harm giving it another go!
Good luck making Cabbage Patch 10 JI, it sounds a bit tough at the moment for you.
Nice TT good progress.
Legs are still pretty tired and sore post reps on Monday LMH, i did a v slow 2.7 mile jog to work this morning which didn't fill me with confidence for the bigger run later. I need to pysche myself up a bit for the MLR as i find it a tough one, will report back later on when it's done!
Hope SteveWH still going OK for Berlin.
OO so you will still be OK to run marathon in Nov?
LMH – that’s very kind of you. There is something that happens in my body when I get to latter stage of the marathon were my legs seize and it’s nothing to do with training. I best not do them anymore. But thank you.
Cheers SelbsStick with it JI
LmH - we'll see, hopefully i get a sign of improvement Sunday. Ive been stuck at 1.24/5 in recent years, unless i run IoW which is much slower.
Selbs - cheers. Looks like it would do nicely. Although would i let a gadget record reps or BAC stuff (if so this would do), or do i program ot on advance? Anyway, no gadgets or magic shoes til after Abo, i have to go sub 255 with sundial and clogs to justify the equipment upgrade.
Im running later today too Selbs, possibly a shorter mlr if the legs are up for it, need to wind it back a bit for Sunday really though. Got a pair of clogs to break in for Sunday (and Abo), so hopefully they will give my legs a boost.
selbs - hope your legs wake up for the MLR then.
Have you tapered for it TR?