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How are things Mennania - any sign of improvement?
You got your race fave ready for Sunday?
ES 13 a week out at that pace seems reasonable enough to not be silly to me if it felt OK.
Well I woke last night with a sore throat and have the sniffles this morning and a sore knee. Sure signs of taper madness setting in i hope rather than anything more sinsiter.
Abingdon folk, I just found the pub searching on google maps, no idea if any good but it appears to serve beer and food so ticks the main boxes for me. It looks to be slightly less of a walk from the pub to start (and more importantly after finish), than from the Abingdon and Witney College car park, so i was even thinking of parking near there if possible.
Hopefully this works and are the walking directions from race... https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/The+Spread+Eagle/Abingdon+OX14+1PU/@51.685112,-1.2869023,16z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x4876c76363eca177:0x7ef003f77c45ed0a!2m2!1d-1.2771737!2d51.6815872!1m5!1m1!1s0x4876c771294247a3:0x5ca23537556df621!2m2!1d-1.2849304!2d51.6902533!3e2
and the pub itself https://www.thespreadeagle.org.uk/
All going well i'll head straight there post shower for a feed and beer. If i end up parking at the college again, it's only another half a mile down the road after stopping at the pub so pretty close/easy i think. Although if anyone finds something better near the car park or finish, i'm happy to change. Just bear in mind if plannign to go Spread Eagle, better to park at the College car park, not the Dunmore Court one.
No beer for a few days/since 6 pint friday, as on a carb deplete since Sunday. It's doing it's job, even if it's only fluid not there, the scales look lower at least before i start carb loading weds night or thurs morning.
Selbs - i looked up that pub, and realised i need to change car parks to the college one, happy to do that, last yrs car park was blatantly not for sub3 runners.
I accept that the orange shoes will be quick, i should have worn them this morning, i wouldnt have needed my hi viz bib.
Legs still feel fine amazingly, but got a proper spot of back ache though, need to roll around on a massage ball later as i cant move comfortably at the mo.
4m around 8.50 pace, a proper wtfp run that was.
I'm on day two of a filthy headache and slightly raised HR selbs - hoping whatever it is will bugger off by Sunday.
I'm not being funny TR but I think I'd struggle to run comfortably at that pace. Hope you can sort your back.
RJR - others have given good advice and I agree that not running Abo would be the most sensible option. However, I'm sure if I were in your shoes I'd run it anyway, but you really need to try to keep it easy i.e. if at any point at all it feels a bit hard, back off, even if that means walking breaks. You want to get back into training as soon afterwards as possible.
Then more long runs as others have said, and they can be 8m/m or even slower. Once you can do 20M at 8m/m without it seeming hard at all, then you can build on that by adding some MP sections or similar.
5M for me yesterday lunchtime all easy. Should make it to the club session this evening which is mile reps.
Hope that's just maranoia LMH.
LMH - Sadly It does seem to fit with what me and the missus have both had (I'm still having) - throat, and headache that won't f**k off - and I've had crap on my chest I'm trying to cough up too. Thought I was OK Sunday after missing XC, but it's not let me out yet. I just hope it leaves you soon!
Menn - Thanks for the kind words on the PR, Long run shoes wise..I stumbled on the Hoka 'Hupana' and the last ones are the 4th pair iv'e had. Previously used Adidas Ride/Ride Boost etc, but the Hoka's are just as cushioned and loads lighter. The sole on the Hupana isn't massive either. Picked the last pair from 'Addnature' sports company in Germany, £60.
Wardi - Guy is nuts isn't he! Had dinner and a few pints with him and few others in Torun in March, during the masters indoors. Top bloke and a really hard trainer.
TR - The Nike shoes thing is mad. Where will it end
TR - if that was the pace that running easy came out as I'd do it but I couldn't deliberately go that slowly comfortably if you see what I mean.
Uhoh Simon - that doesn't sound good. I am a bit gunky too but my peak flow is fine.
Agree that my medium/long run pace has been a bit quick. I think a shortage of training time has made me a bit impatient in my runs and I've been running by feel more than keeping my pace in a range. Full focus (after Abingdon) on getting the mileage up at paces I can recover well from. Barring injuries a sub 3 feels like something that will happen for me at some point and if it's not in 2019 then I just need to remember that I've done some of my best running this year with 2 big PBs to boot.
Hoping all these illnesses that seem to be floating for different people are resolved. Is there an official term for tapering illness because it seems that a lot of people get it?
Been a busy weekend for me and yesterday was mad from a work point of view, but very belatedly I can report I was 30th at the Gwent League. Some way shy of the top 10 finishes I managed when fully fit, but I did run a bit cautiously to protect the ankle, so hopefully I can improve on that as the season progresses! 15 on Sunday, rest yesterday and then 6 easy this morning.
the fetish test of the Insular Institute of Sports could change date, and so it will be"
So I hope your all having a good day fellow 'festishers'.
11 good muddy ones for me today, post meeting around the Eden project. Bliss.
York 20th October
Wardi - #3892
SJ - #859
Al P
Njord
Charlie W
Abingdon
Selbs
TR
Tick Tock
ES
RJR91
TMAP
Frankfurt 27th Oct
JoeB
New York 3rd Nov
CD
There are many ways to skin a cat runjoe and what works for one won't another. It's your running and you have to be happy with what you do. I'm always asking what people think, weighing it up and sometimes doing what they say and sometimes deciding it isn't for me. It's nice to have somewhere to be able to do that.
Good to hear that the comeback continues Joolska.
Sounds positive Tmap.
Good stuff Jools, but xc is a bit risky on that ankle.
Wardi - #3892
SJ - #859
Al P - #41
Njord
Charlie W
Abingdon
Selbs
TR
Tick Tock
ES
RJR91
TMAP
Frankfurt 27th Oct
JoeB
New York 3rd Nov
CD
I will be driving so will save the serious drinking until I get home.
Going ok myself, the original plan of 'getting on it' by 29th July for York didn't quite materialise! Spent August trying to get my mileage up (tickled 90 on a couple of weeks) & ran a rubbish trail 50k race. End of August/early September taken up with holiday, kids birthdays, so didn't finally knuckle down until the 2nd week of Sept
Not sure what this last minute approach is going to result in on Sunday, main aim is just to try to not be too sh*t. For the first time got a race number where my name is bigger than the number, so feeling a little bit pressure to do it enough justice
Looks a bit wet in that video wardi, we are well prepared if it rains Sunday.
I would like to point out i'd only had three quarters of a pint!
Menn - haha, the only time I've ever passed out was in a pub and I was also on my first pint! Took a while to convince the staff that I wasn't hammered and eventually they let me stay in the pub.
Tmap - good to see you pop in and to hear that you're still going well.
Club road reps last night - 4x1M starting every 7:30. They are probably more like 0.97M but have a couple of small hills so maybe equivalent to a flat mile. First one was 5:20 but gradually got quicker to about 5:07 for the last and felt reasonably good. Only need to knock 30s off the pace of the last one and do 26.2 of them in a row with no recovery to keep up with Eliud....
Enjoy the elite experience Al.
Mennania - I'm like that without having run the marathon first. LOL. How did it go with your sports rehab specialist?
Any races planned Padams.
6m inc 2 av 6.27, so exactly same as Monday. But nearly didnt even do it, and nearly bailed it a few times, as my back was so sore. Think I'll get it freed up if i can get an appointment, as its keeping me awake and i doubt it'd survive the drive to Abo let alone the run.
So as its midweek i allowed myself a perp at the Abo weather last night and its going to rain. But we'll be well prepared. Main thing is minimal wind. So ill only need my running umbrella.
best you get that appointment asap then TR, can't be scuppering this campaign with a last minute sore back. My sleep has been rubbish this week, and lower back is sore as well, so i will be trying to self massage/stretch, foam roll quite a bit in coming days too, but doesnt sounds as bad as you. V good going in that state then to get the 2 at 6:27s done.
LOL Men - had you lined up the nurse prior to the fall for a soft landing?
Padams - tasty paces, and yeah puts into perspective how ridiculously quick that sub 3 hour pace is. I think at best i might last 800 metres and that could be overstating it!
nice to see the list for the pub post Abingdon swelling. Wonder if DanA about he normally does Abo i think.
The weather forecast i keep looking at looks spot on right now for us TR with very light winds at the moment, temps between 6C and 14C and showers in the afternoon. Lets hope it stays like that! Guess it just depends if it chages much as Friday it's loking like thunderstorms and blowing a bit of a hoolie!
@TR - Hope you can get it sorted - do you have any clue whats brought it on?
Confusion reigns @Little M.iss Happy. The Rehab specialist -proper old school (think of Quint in Jaws and your close) has suggested whats been diagnosed so far is a symptom not the cause and says ive got a leg length discrepancy - a simple fix. Meanwhile my consultant is now offering an epidural which Im going to put on hold until the latest suggestion plays out.