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    I wonder what a Reiki-charged sunset is?

    I'd be interested to see evidence that reiki can reduce the loss of blood during operations.
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    company paid for a couple or sessions through private insurance, then they left it for months, paid for a couple more and now are dithering wether to give me a private op or not. I go to the physio just to keep me ticking over else i think i would come to a halt. He told me which surgeon to go to but its private and thats the sticking point with my company.6 month recovery after the op and I still may not able to do my job. c the problem.money money money
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    SivSiv ✭✭✭
    Martin

    That's another good reason to try reiki (and other alternative therapies) before resorting to surgery.

    If you feel better and people say to you "it's only the placebo effect", you can reply "yeah, isn't it great?"
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    even the placebo effect couldn't be proven...it may just have been healing of its own accord at that time. Either way it wouldn't be anything physical the reiki had achieved
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    kind of reminds me of the people a few years back who were spouting off about the crop circles they had come across which must have been done by aliens. Even when the hoaxers admitted what they had done these people refused to listen. Some people will believe anything but i still think sensible people have a duty to at least give them an alternative logical viewpoint
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    MArtin, I would try a different physio too - is yours a sports injury specialist?

    I'm sure you've tried this, but could you see if you can get your gp to refer you to the surgeon that your current physio recommends...many surgeons do both nhs and private work.

    (try whatever alternatives you like..most can't do any harm, other than too your wallet).
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    twodogs, does sport injuries, attached to a gym, does surfing. ski diving himself, worked in the nhs before this. seems to know his stuff and even said this afernoon to go back to my gp and try it on the nhs as surgeon also work for them. got to say it feels a lot better after the ses but doesnt last. would a visit to the pub be in order with the running club tonight, it's curry night.
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    Zero, Two Dogs - ok - this kind of thing isnt for everyone. Live and let live.
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    well said cougie I haven't come up against such fierce resistance to reiki apart from my in laws who have decided its the work of the devil.

    ho hum
    T2x
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    Quite simply - it works.
    Together with kinesiology, I would no longer contemplate going to see a GP.
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    for anything jd??????????

    I see the two as complementary



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    glad to have started a nice healthy debate, just come in to c who is the late gang.
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    no experience of reiki, but a great fan of aromatherapy massage and the power of reflexology
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    A white witch cured my bald patch by waving a carrot at it... she said it holistically focused the life force of Dale Winton onto it causing the raggitorous energy strands to transmutation into effervescing C-Beams...

    I also got a nice tan


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    beebs, so its helped u then, was asking my physio about reiki this afternoon
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    Cougie...can't see the problem with debating this. If people come onto a public forum making claims for the benefits of something, they should be prepared to defend and explain it.

    I really do want someone to explain how a cure that relies on the "laying on of hands" can work remotely. If no-one can defend it, (other than just saying "it works"), I have to continue to assume it is just quackery.

    Jd..I genuinely hope you never have anything seriously wrong with you. When my mother had breast cancer, one of the people diagnosed at the same time as her decided she didn't want radiotherapy or chemo, she would rely on "alternative" treatments. She died. My mother is still going strong.
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    TD - sadly I've known people to go through all the chemo and radiotherapy and still die. Does that disprove that it works ? Of course not.

    I wouldnt abandon normal medicine.

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    TwoDogs, I have known 5 people (not really close but friends parents etc) get cancer. All followed the hospital route of drugs and chemo and all died. My reflexology / reiki practioner had breast cancer, refused the drugs 'n chemo route and she is still around. I'm not saying that this is because of alternative therapies and I'm not saying that modern medical science doesn't work but what I am saying is that modern medical science doesn't work ALL of the time and maybe, just maybe, there are other alternatives that can be used in conjunction with science. There is a hell of a lot that science doesn't know about how we work. Alright, the mechanics are pretty much taken care of but there is a lot more to our existance than that.

    Whatever the arguments for and against, in my experience, alternative treatments have worked (for me) and I continue to have reflexology and reiki once a month and will carry on doing so. Modern society is conditioned to think in straightforward terms, right / wrong, black / white, tv on / tv off and science is the 'bible' that our decisions are based on and it precludes any 'grey' areas. My father in law is a physicist and chemist and has science and engineering qualifications up the ying yang and is a very analytical guy and yet he goes to church and is a devout Christian who believes in God. He is also open minded enough to accept that there are things that we don't have answers to, or perhaps never will.

    Anyway, rant over - sorry ;o)
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    If someone had cancer I would never suggest to them they should stop have chemo or radiotherapy. Complementary (note spelling!) treatments like reiki, reflexology, aromatherapy are just that - complementary. They are designed to complement more conventional treatments. If someone who had asthma came to visit me, I'd make sure they had their inhaler with them - but stress can cause asthma so if complementary treatments can help the stress then surely that's has to be good.


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    SezzSezz ✭✭✭
    TD, we and every single object around us is made up of energy - that's been scientifically proven. Every energy cell vibrates at a certain frequency, some lower or higher than others. What reiki does is increase the vibrating frequency of energy in cells which release negative energy and encourage positive energy into the body, so helping the body to heal itself.

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    what's an "energy cell"? What's "negative energy"? What's "positive energy"?
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    btw, Cougie...I wasn't suggesting that people who have chemo/radiotherapy will necessarily survive, I was trying to point out the dangers of the comment "I would no longer contemplate going to see a GP"
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    Just another point to throw in the melting pot!

    Look at that poor girl who has just died from a so called fully qualified specialist overdosed her severely on Chemo!

    At least when Reiki is used it doesnt "overdose" it goes to exactly where its needed.

    Like PH Im a firm believer that the two should work alongside each other.

    But the persons providing both services should be fully qualified/trained.
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    aaaah it's wave theory!

    Everything is wave-icles (as in light can exhibit properties of particles and waves, dpeending upon the methods used to measure - Oh by the way the earlier post on quantum physics was rubbish)

    So what you do is "wave" at the waves...

    You can't just change energy...that requires energy too. Mass turned to energy = kaboom. Water to water vapour requires energy. Just chaing energy doesn't make sense. That's like saying by using reiki you can turn red light to blue by increasing the frequency.

    Frequency is like speed it's not a vector, so how can it be positive or negative?

    Why should you only wish to speed the frequency up, maybe the "energy" requires slowing down.

    Maybe reiki works but the explantions do not.
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    And yes Im a qualified complementary therapist!
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    SivSiv ✭✭✭
    Lardass, Sezz - so much good sense in your posts.

    I don't see why there has to be conflict between so-called conventional and alternative therapies. What they all do to some extent is alter the way we visualise what is wrong with us, and that affects chemicals in the brain - a hugely powerful force that researchers are only just starting to understand.

    It can never be guaranteed that the same treatment will work for everyone. We are all different and will all respond differently to inputs of energy, radiotherapy or whatever.
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    >>At least when Reiki is used it doesnt "overdose" it goes to exactly where its needed.

    Like I asked, can you get too much Reiki?
    If all my energy is balanced then does the Reiki just bounce off me, or will I get too much energy and evpaorate?
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    The difference is that conventional treatments can be proven. Anyone with teh right training and equipment can replicate teh results and show that doing X will always result in Y.

    In alternative therapies that is simply not the case. Apart from some claims made on behalf of accupuncture there have been no proven results for the efficacy of any alternative treatment. For some people they work, for others they don't.

    This is probably caused by spurious corelation. In other words the alternative treatment is hapening but so is something else. When a healing result happens it is attributed to teh alternative rather than the "something else". This unknown factor is - I would imagine - why results from alternative therapies work some of the time. For example Lardass mentioned alternative therapies in the case of a fertility problem. He also mentioned "some lifestyle changes" - why assume that the alternative therapy rather than the lifestyle changes were responsible for teh pregnancy?

    If it's working for you then great, more power to you. But until there is a peer reviewed proof I'll be steering clear.

    By the way, on Quantum Mechanics the whole quantumn universe is very strange and no-one can agree on something as fundamental as how many dimensions there are (9, 12, more?) However many quantum formulations are strictly theoretical and only operate on the sub atomic level. Technically Einstein proved Newtonian physics wrong. Flight is based on Newtonian principales. You don't see 747's falling out of the sky because of that though so I don't see how the argument is relevant. It's a bit like saying that becasue you can breath air you should be able to breath water, a false extrapolation into an incorrect environment based on flawed assumptions.
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    Fascinated by this discussion.

    Obviously you have people from completely opposing viewpoints.

    Me I'm in the middle. I think that some complementary medicine works either in a scientific but not yet understood way, or by relaxing and reducing stress, + giving time which most conventional medicines cannot do

    I also think that there are plenty of mercenary people who can exploit vulnerable needy peeps to part with cash on the basis of a miracle cure.

    Conventional medicine tends to be more hurried and less focused on whole person and therefore you can easily find fault - plus on the whole it is mass produced for an ever demanding market with no profit for providers. However there are plenty of people who have reason to say they would not be alive without it -me being one of them.

    I'd be reluctant for anyone to refuse either complementary or conventional medicine. However I would wish that both were provided by qualified registered practitioners who care.
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    The unfortunate lass mentioned by TillyP had an aggressive brain tumour, so the chances of a successful outcome were slim in any case...and it was Radiotherapy not Chemo.
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