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Sunday 26th November 2006
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Tom - I agree with your analysis. Funnily enough we've been looking at pre FLM build up races and were tossing up between Dewsbury 10k in Feb and Salford 10k in April for me to attempt a pb. Realistically I know I'm not in that kind of shape at the moment.
RFJ - well raced.
Stickless - looking after my back is always important to me. I've eased off a lot in the last couple of weeks to allow it to get better. I never take risks anymore.
Been to buy a new bike today (retail therapy) and decided to enter london. Enter details on-line pay and I'm in.
No ballot, no searching for a charity place, no waiting for the club draw bizarre.
Not too much to say about x country (not really feeling 100% think I've caught something from my diseased kids) but at least I tied my laces.
Sufficed to say it's all to play for in the last one. Just between two of us now though.
Some excellent reports, and great to see so many of them accentuating the positives...
BR - a great return to form - well done! And a decent time from Treadmill too.
Hilly - a solid run, but you know with the right prep there's more to come...looking forward to next year's sub-38 report!
Drew - fantastic! You've had a rough spell, so great to see the revised training paying dividends.
Micksta - another good XC run.
AF - sorry your race never went to plan...as Tom says, you've got the basics very much in place, just need to get the fine tuning right. Be careful your streak doesn't detract from the overall effect of your excellent training...a day or two off here and there might bring the mojo back.
Tom/Stickless - great stuff in the relay.
Well done to all other racers.
Myself? I just headed out for a steady 4.2 miles in 30 mins this morning. Some more lovely weather here in Glasgow. Followed the run up with the drudgery of an afternoon traipsing round Ikea and B&Q. At least I got home in time for the footy!
Have a good evening.
fab run from drew at leeds, you must be delighted and looking good for start of flm training
good solid race wardi
br - lovely performance and a minute ahead of yourself
hilly - still a good time though you are obviously disappointed on not being in condition for the pb attempt - there's always next time
xerxes - and a christopher dean impression! yes, i use walshes on the XC find them more forgiving than spikes
micksta - sounding very stron esp in second half
AF - but weren't you feeling dodgy this week?
stickless/tom - mud! lost count of how many in your team but 45 mins faster than last year - pats on back all round!
RFJ - sounded like damned hard work but you made a good go of it
race report from me -
Salford women’s 5.25 miler
Went as a late entry, no team and not a league race so fairly relaxed about it and tried 2 different things ; firstly I didn’t have my usual pre race evening meal (won’t be trying that again!) and secondly I wore the hrm for the first time ever in a race – didn’t look at it till after but useful data, will definitely try this again.
Built in some getting lost time and didn’t get lost so arrived horribly early and had a good warm up, 3 visits to the portaloos and bought some socks - well it would be rude not to. Also spoke to starter who said it’s accurately measured and a barr standard.
Rough plan is 7.30 miling and anything inside 40 mins I’ll be reasonably happy with.
First part of the course had some downhill stretches , then the inevitable uphills resulting in the inevitable splits…
Mile 1 7.01 160 feel comfortable and some seconds in hand
Mile 2 7.21 166 settling into a rhythm now, feel good
Mile 3 7.43 166 starting to find the uphill bits and slowing
Mile 4 7.55 167 some testing inclines
Mile 5 8.02 167 b***d hills in this bit!!
Plus .25 40 mins 168 pig of a finish
From about half way it was me and a skelmersdale harrier battling it out – me going ahead on the downhill bits, her on the uphills. Shame it was an uphill finish – she beat me by 3 seconds.
27th position out of 186
Great race, very well organised and marshalled and nice memento water bottle to all finishers, one to do again.
Found it interesting how my heart rate was so steady and at roughly 92% - any comments on if this is ‘normal’ or otherwise will be very welcome please?
Got lost on the way home.
What: 11.6 miles including a 10K race in 42.18 doing a spot of pacing to be useful.
Why: I offered to pace but had a run to do.
Last hard: yesterdays track session
Last rest: Friday
Lyrics: NO
if i can get the mileage up over the coming months and do a couple of key sessions a week i think it will give me a better chance of gauging true max.
clink - well done on a good performance.
If I were to get lost I'd prefer it to be on the way home!
Scobos - yes, I feel there's definitely a sub 38 in me. Today was a bad one and even if I didn't get sub 38 I should've been around 38:14 going by the 15 mile race I did 4 weeks ago.
Excellent XC performance & position Micksta, top stuff.
Good XC's too from Xerxes, RFJ & Junior.
flr.. where were you today? It was almost mild in Leeds.
Well battled Clink, good position too.
AF.. sounds to me like a thorughly decent effort in appalling weather conditions on a tough course. Do not judge yourself harshly.
Many happy returns to NZC.
BR.. you spotted my plan to finish between 2 ladies of the forum - a thorn between two roses perhaps {O: BTW.. I think I feel a bit like you today, after a period of frustration, injury, poor performances etc there is nothing like a return to form to re-kindle the old enthusiasm, just the ticket infact. I hope you have sourced a suitably expensive bottle of red to celebrate (and for it's medicinal properties to help with Hilly's back of course).
Come on the Barnsley XC'ers, do tell all!
How many times do I have to keep telling people it's not me pushing the pace. I just tend to pick the route and try and keep up.
But I do use Club nights as my faster runs and the rest of the week run steady.
And lace tying lessons.
So much to catch up on!
AF - ****! We did the same race and I had no idea! I don't think we would have seen each other though, although MrB (foreign looking bloke with a Nikon in a carrier bag to keep it dry) was taking lots of photos of runners so he might have one of you - what kit were you in? sh*** run for me as well, BTW
Well done to all the Leeds abbey Dashers,
Drew - awesome!, BR - glad you feel like you're back there,Treadmill, Wardi, Hilly - sorry it wasn't what you wanted but at least you know why, which is half the battle
Nice XC report - Xerexes, Long Eaton is one of my favourites, a foul, foul course. Walshes would be better, or even spikes, but then of course you'll have to buy spikes AND Walshes ...
Stickless - excellent stuff.
NSC - happy birthday
Clink - well raced - nice steady HR
What: Like AF, Downton half for me - my first paid-for road race (been just doing bike stuff and fell racing/xc this year) of the year, and felt distinctly unenthusiastic at the start .... Also still feeling the effects of being ill last week, a complete lack of training, oh, the usual stuff. Not to mention
Hail
Flooded roads
Thunder
Lightning
torrential rain
The odd "hill"
I did however make the best kit choice - shorts, helly and club vest so didn't get waterlogged, and normal trainers - glad I didn't wear my flats as they have no grip and conditions underfoot were dire!
for comedy value, my splits:
1: 7:29/159
2: 7:53/168 - stabbing pain in my hip at this point
3: 8:16/172 - hip still hurting. big hill. Decided to become obsessed with HR to keep my mind off things
4: 8:53/175 - even bigger hill
5: 8:33/172
6: 8:21/170 - decided to stop worrying about hip as I was halfway home (by my maths)
7: 7:24/169 - long flat bit. A few ponies wandering by (race is in the Few Forest btw)
8: 9:10/172 - I have no idea why this was so slow - there was a hill but it wasn't that big
9: 7:53/170 - hail, thuder, lightning - scary!
10: 8:38/174
11:8:49/175 - lots of flooded roads to wade though, didn't feel tired but HR shooting up and losing form - lost interest in the race here and stopped concentrating on good form
12:8:54/175
13:8:18/176 - trying to muster a bit of enthusiasm
Finish in a totally carp 1:49:26 - almost the same time as last year. Although, on possibly even less training.
AHR = 171 /91% - never sure if this is too much or not enough! Regardless, don't think I pushed enough as felt totally fine at the finish, although a bit concerned about HR shooting up at the end. Hip however had completely seized up at finish and took advantage of the massuers to try and loosen it up a bit - a good way of spending a fiver. now sitting here with ice pack on it and crossing fingers ...
Leave it to the winner or the mud lover
A rip roaring battle Lizzy, well done. I hope you dry out and un-seize soonest!
Leeds Abbey Dash results, it appears I was a modest 24th in my age group, whereas Hilly was 2nd in hers.. {O:
http://www.raceahead.net/SearchEvents.aspx
Teddington (SW London)
rain
thunder
hail
cold cold wind
honest
Micksta, well run in your XC race
Treadmill, well run at Leeds
AJH, 7 hours in the saddle – respect
AF, that looks like one tough race and well done with the FLM place
BR, great result and a excellent time
Great report Stickless - well done to you and your crew
Hilly, it is impossible to perform to your expectations when any of your bits hurt. Still a respectable time under the circumstances.
RFJ Jnr, great run. RFJ Snr, tough run well done
Clink, sounds like you had a great race. 92% MaxHR (I think) sounds about right for a 5 mile race.
LizzyB, as AF’s comments. Under the conditions still good running. Bag the miles and the experience and be stronger for the next race.
A very busy day with some great results.
So, the SYXC....
Well, I felt good today, had a nice lap warm up with legionella, a chat to other people and generally revelled in the sunshine and the muddy course (that would later be my undoing)!
We set off and I felt great, the spikes (that I haven't worn since January) felt like slippers and, putting in a burst in the first downhill, I zoomed away from the disease and started to gain on those that normally beat me (this season). It was fairly muddy and I was doing some detours to miss some of the mud, but I was happy cos the spikes were enabling me to get through most of it fantastically.
First 3km lap in 12:10 and I felt good, HMHS was in front of me, but I knew I'd catch him; the diseased one was behind me and slipping back and it was still sunny! I started to gain on HMHS half way through the second lap when, suddenly, stressfully, laughably, cruelly (more adverbs etc), I was robbed of my victory!
The left shoe chose to embed itself in thick mud and stay there causing me to run on for a while before I noticed that my socks were wet and slippery in the mud! For a second I considered doing a Ron Hill and continuing without shoes, but I had the other one anyway. Swearing profusely, I turned around and ran back to the shoe, watching everyone run past me. Pulling it out I moved to the side and tried to put it back on, but the laces were tight and I struggled to balance. Wasting around 30secs, I got it back on and realised that loads had passed me, even legionella :-((((
Yep, I was gutted, and even though I pushed myself hard, I just couldn't get back to where I'd been. Oh well, not that bothered really, at least I have a better excuse for my failure than just running badly. Today, I felt great for the first time in ages, so I'm happy!
I even managed a sarcastic remark as I finished: marshal says, "Keep going," to which I responded, "..as opposed to stand still?" Hmmm, my wit isn;t always that great, I admit!
Well done to the other racers today, the Abbey Dashers, and BRilly, LizzyB, etc.
A debating point...
Do you notice the 3rd runner home ran 1 sec quicker than the 4th runner on the gun time but 1 sec slower on the chip time. (The 4th runner is Sven27 who used to post on this thread btw).
Now I think that the correct way of determining prizes is by 1st across the line (which is what the race does). Someone else here reckons it should be on chip time as that runner has covered the course quicker.
I said that you could, in theory, have someone crossing the line 10 mins late and running 29:10, with the guy crossing the line first blissfully unaware that he was in fact in 2nd place.
Go well with pies and burgers
FL - maybe we should expand our contest to include the national
Leave it to the winner or the mud lover
Lizzy, tough run by the sounds of things. Well done on battling through. Hope the hip is ok!
BR - Sounds like a very satisfactory race. Just the sort of feeling I want to have in a few months time (although I'll get it with slower running!)
Washing up calls (literally)
zip all from Tuesday until today.
got back into the swing with a nice little 21.5 miler at 8m/m, and that includes the minor diversions that, ahem, often get incorporated in this sort of route, especially after lunch.
Almost stuck my left foot up a dogs backside in the first hour. Well, these 5 peeps were wandering along, filling the path. I took to the road to pass them, politely. Only they had this small excuse for a dog on a bungee excuse for a lead. It wanders in my way and I nearly got a new slipper for Christmas. I think that they mumbled a bit, but I gave them a Paddington Stare. They don't know how lightly they escaped.
Well done on your time btw.
Although it seems that I wasn't beaten by the 1st V50 after all (who actually asked me what age category I was when we finished just to check I wasn't in the same group!!!! - how the years must wither me:-)) as my chip time was faster.
If there's any sub 29 10k runners out there you can go and win the Abbey Dash right now if the mats are still down:-))
Bedtime now, 5:00 a.m. start tomorrow, going to London ...