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SilkTork - You are spot on, pretty much every run I do including my 20 miles on saturday goes like this.
0-20% - Easing out those aches & pains, god this is going to take ages - I wish I could go out on the town rather than get up early to go running...
20-80% - getting into stride, I reckon i'll easily crack 4hrs at the marathon, in-fact I reckon i'll do 3.50
80-100% - I simply don't care what time I get, I just want to sit down, I hate running f'king sh!t sport, never again etc etc....
Afterwards - could I have pushed myself harder, mmm
Dan - if the organisation is similar to last year's, and if my memory serves me right, then you'll be given a coloured wristband at registration (like the Lucosade pace-bands) that correspond to a start pen based on your anticipated finish-time. The start-pens are enclosed by steel crowd-barriers, with a steward guarding a single entry-point. Not impossible to circumvent these controls, but not straight-forward either.
I think I put down 2:55 as a predicted time last year, and got allocated pen B. Pen A runners seemed to be the elites (around 30-40 runners - most African-looking - who entered the stadium en masse around 5 minutes before the start). The front of pen B was only 2 or 3 rows back from the start, and I think it took me around 10 seconds to cross the line. Found my stride a lot quicker than when I've started behind the celebs at the FLM GFA start.
I like good zone control. I don't like having to struggle past slow runners who should have started further back. Nor do I like holding up faster runners who should have started further forward and now they're breathing down my neck.
Good zone control with everybody arriving on time and getting into the right zones means the start and the first few miles don't get too messy and stressful.
Agree with shutterbug - race seems to be getting a lot closer all of a sudden.
Busy weekend for me - 18 miler on Friday evening (felt better than previous weeks SLRs), 18 holes of golf on Saturday (can I count this as a cross-training session!!) and 4 hour hillwalk on Sunday. Did a 2 x (6x400) speedwork session at the gym at lunchtime yesterday which felt hard towards the end - but then it's supposed to. Main problem just now is that 11 month daughter now has Hand, Foot and Mouth virus after previously having chickenpox = very disturbed sleep for all over the last few weeks.
Anyone any idea if/when we get sent details of expo/registration? Or is it on the website and I'm looking in the wrong place?
Ken - there are details of when the Expo is open on the official website but it took me ages to find them - here you go:
Amsterdam Expo
I've been a bit up and down through August, but I managed a 17 mile run at just over 9 minute miles last night, without feeling like I was about to die by the end which is an improvement on normal! I've still not built up the distance I was doing for my last marathon, but I'm starting to feel more comfortable with the concept at least.
My PB is 3:52 at Edinburgh - started with the 3:45 pacers and stuck with them to about 21 miles but couldn't keep it up for the last 5. My aim this time is to try to get to the end with them (although it may not happen because I've got a slight distraction in that I'm meant to be running New York - slowly - two weeks later and might take it easier to give myself the best chance of getting round that!)
This from the ING Amstersam website:
"Runner’s World Pacing Team
Magazine Runner’s World will once again provide its Pacing Team to lead competitors in the full and half-marathon to fast finishing times. These experienced runners will set the speed, give advice and help runners through difficult moments. Clearly recognisable, the pacing runners will be distributed across the runners based on their targeted finish times. Registration via www.runnersweb.nl will start at the end of August. Participation in the Runner's World Pacing Team is free.
What is the Runner's World Pacing Team?
Participants in the Runner's World Pacing Team run after pacers (pace-setters). The pacers are experienced marathon and other highly qualified runners who are able to adhere to the smoothest possible running schedule. To get you through difficult moments they occasionally fall back to join the group to give you some encouragement. Not only are they able to run at a smooth and equal pace, they can also give you tips and advice of inestimable value during the run.
The groups of participants are divided over planned target times. Two pacers run along with each group during the marathon. One pacer accompanies the group during the half-marathon. They can be recognized by their clothing and a balloon. The colour of the balloon shows at what rate they are running. The target time is indicated on both the front and back of their yellow reflecting shirts.
Apart from the standard registration fee for the event itself, participation in the Runner's World Pacing Team will cost you nothing.
The target times for the marathon are as follows:
3.15, 3.30, 3.45, 4.00, 4.15 and 4.30 hours
and for the half marathon:
1.35, 1.40, 1.45, 1.50, 1.55 and 2.00 hours.
These are the colours with the times that go with them (M = full marathon ; HM = half marathon):
3.15 hours (M) / 1.35 hours (HM) Red
3.30 hours (M) / 1.40 hours (HM) Blue
3.45 hours (M) / 1.45 hours (HM) Purple
4.00 hours (M) / 1.50 hours (HM) Green
4.15 hours (M) / 1.55 hours (HM) Orange
4.30 hours (M) / 2.00 hours (HM) Yellow"
Runners World do a sub 3 at FLM dont they? Seems strange they miss that one off here, maybe as its a smaller race they feel its not necessary.
Just done a 10 mile time trial to see where im at and finished in 67 mins, and feel like im starting to get closer to my pre injury fitness level. I have a half marathon on the 9th so will use that to guage wether sub 3 is on the cards. Hopefully with a few more weeks of good training, fingers crossed I should be close.
No such look for my next half. I'm doing the Yorkshireman off road, so looking at about 1:45-1:50.
I've had a look at a couple of races that are being run before this. theres a 10k trail over a month before, so I shouldnt have any problems doing that with some effort. Theres a 10 mile, flat, road race about 3 weeks before. I've never raced 10 miles and would like to be looking at 1
5 as a maximum. Would that be a good idea so close to a marathon?
HI All
Booked my flights and hotel last night. Flying out Friday afternoon from heathrow, returning late monday morning. I'm staying at the Borgmann villa hotel which is on the edge of Vondelpark so not to far from the stadium by the looks of it. 8 weeks to go now, training is going ok although think i need to step things up a bit for the final few weeks, really looking forward to it though.
have a nice bank holiday everyone.
Mark
I managed to drag myself out of bed this morning at 7.15 and drag my body around for 17+ miles.
Why do I put my self through this pain I ask myself?
I feel my training is back on course now, after a holiday break. If anyone is interested there is a great 20mile off road event starting on Dunstable Downs, Beds on the 16th of September, I am planning to do it as part of my training schedule. There is also an option of a 10 miler too.
It’s a very friendly, non-competitive event, (if there is such a thing) and refreshments are provided free of charge at the end
Check out the details on the Events page or www.dunstableroadrunners.org
Well done didds
I am hoping to get close to a 20 miler in next weekend if i can, I stuggled a bit this morning with heat towards the end of my run, as I ran out of water at arroud 12miles.
I'll have to take a bigger bottle next time
20 mile LSR for me too on Saturday (did anybody on the thread not do 20 miles at the weekend??) - as with most of my LSRs I did it on a treadmill at the gym watching Sky Sports; all I can say is that Sheff Utd v WBA was such a poor game that watching it was more painful than the last few miles of the marathon. Followed this with a 5 hour (10 mile/700 metres ascent) hillwalk yesterday (carrying my daughter for extra cardio-vascular effort!) to the west of Loch Lomond.
Running the Great Scottish HM on Sunday - so should get better feel for how the fewer miles of the FIRST regime has improved or worsened performance.
Wishing everyone an injury free week.
17 miles done yesterday in 2
Just about to embark on a slow 10 miler. Feeling a little tired today so decided it would be wise to ease up on the speed for today.
No decisions as yet. Its the Ryedal 10 that I'm lookin at. Haven't found it here or on Fetch, but running club has leaflet on it. I'll make a decision after the trail race this weekend.
Just done another 20 miler. 20.21 miles in 2:37. Mixture of road, trail, grass, path, towpath and golf course. Nice and hilly to give the legs a good battering. It would have probably got to 21 miles, but the garmin batteries went about 3/4 mile from home, so I used that as a cool down and stretching walk. I was going to run ir this morning, but opted for a lie in instead.
Ryedal Run
Found it. Over a month before. Week after Yorkshireman half. I'm very tempted to have a go
Mark