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    Oh, I'm so glad I found this forum. I went to an amazing half ironman last year and vowed to do it this year, but got pregnant instead. Three months after baby and I'm desperate to do a triathlon. I used to be a fairly decent runner (45 mins 10k), swam when I was a lot younger and have virtually no cycling experience. Really really confused about buying a bike. Should I steer clear of a hybrid, if not what is good? Or should I definitely get a road bike? Post baby means I don't have much money or a great deal of time (say three training sessions a week possible) and have started running about six weeks ago (up to five miles now). I'm moving to the south coast (near Southampton) shortly and looking for anyone who might be able to offer me advice. Thanks very much in advance.
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    I would get a road bike and when you get confident on it slap on some tri bars. You could buy second hand but I suppose you need some experience or a friend with experience to know what to go for.



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    thanks guys
    just having a read through the posts.
    the stratford one is when i am on holiday
    however, there is a south coast tri which i am going to enter !
    just not sure whether to go with the classic and fork out on a wet suit or the next one down.

    ST
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    you can rent a wetsuit for less than £50 for a season.
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    oooh
    where'd you get em from?
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    errr, there are a few places. Tri and Run does wetsuit hire but at the moment all the info on their website seems to be based around renting for a weekend at a time. I guess that's because it's out of season. If you have a look around in April you will be able to sort it out. Have a look at the London Triathlon Website. There is always info there because so many of the entrants are first time open water racers.
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    Tri UK are doing them for £25 for the season (1st March - 14th September). Click on this link.

    No connections to the company etc etc
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    ST - you can do the South Coast Tri sprint distance without a wettie - maybe even the oly distance as well - I did just that as my first tri a few years ago.........

    all depends on sea temperature and what you'd be happy with - and the waves at Seaford can be quite large - they had to cancel the swim as it was thought too dangerous to launch a safety boat if needed so it became the South Coast Duathlon............

    only problem with the event is the lapped bike course on a shite road surface - 12 laps for the Oly!! otherwise is fine
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    "12 laps for the Oly"

    Did they have a safty car for dizziness!
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    I cant reliably count to 12.
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    all your fingers and the fun bags on your chest = 12
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    last time I did it I had 11 strips of tape on my top bar - take one off at the end of each lap and no need for one after the 12th one - but you still get confused!!!! someone said after - why not just look at the distance done on the computer - as soon as you reach 40km you're done...............and they were bloody right - 40K bang on into T2 - could have saved some top tube paint if I'd though of that............
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    "fun bags"? You're almost James Bond in your sophistication aren't you Taff? Anyway, for all you know I might have 12 fingers.

    Well done on the maths skills by the way. Very impressive ;o)
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    I'm gonna enter the one at Seaford, not too far for me

    just need to decide on the distance, think it will have to be the olympic one

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    Hi, I am new to tri this year as well - cycled plenty, ran a half marathon 20 years ago and could not manage a length of crawl in November, but training is going well - Wimbleball is my goal this year - then the full iron man next year if all goes well. One problem i dont have an answer to is - what is the difference between a road bike and a tri bike? Also am concerned about swiming in open water - is this as hard as it sounds with hundreds of other people in the water?
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    Sounds like you're all going great guns. With my serious lack of cycle knowledge, please could someone suggest a couple of bikes I might check out whilst still being on a budget. Many thanks and good luck with all the training
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    "what is the difference between a road bike and a tri bike?"

    the geometry is slightly different. main thing you'll really notice is that a tribike just has tribars on it. so you can maintain an aggressive aero position all the time. a roadbike has the traditional drop bars - the curley ones that you'll see around town, on the tour de france. most people have a roadbike to train on all year round and attach clip on tribars to it to get a bit more aero. if you're getting just one bike i'd suggest a road bike is the one you want.

    roadbike:
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/images/focus%20cayo%2007%20med.jpg

    tribike:
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/images/felt%20da%2007%20med.jpg

    example of drop bars with clip on tribars attached:
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/images/profile%20jammer%20gt.jpg

    "Also am concerned about swiming in open water - is this as hard as it sounds with hundreds of other people in the water?"

    it's easy. just make sure you get some practice in the wetsuit when the lakes start opening in april/may.

    "could someone suggest a couple of bikes I might check out whilst still being on a budget. "

    specialised, trek, bianchi - all do brilliant pretty much identical £500 bikes. that's pretty much the standard price for an entry level bike. if that's too much then claude butler do one for arount £350 i think. might be worth checking out planet-x too. they do good deals. but not sure if they have a cheap roadbike deal.
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    gc

    road bike and tri bike basically differ in geometry and areodynamic setup.........a tri bike is more like a time trial bike (like you see used on the TT sessions in the Tour de France) and tends to have a more aerodynamic profile (narrow tubes, deep rim wheels) - basically they go faster than standard road bikes for the same effort but they are more difficult to handle and are useless for big climbs - and staying in an aero position takes a lot of training............

    as for open water swimming - yes the mass starts can be intimidating but there are ways of overcoming these such as being fast and leaving them all behind (ha - I wish), or starting at the sides or back so you don't get caught in the battle of arms and limbs............once it all settles down, it's fine..........

    ST - good luck with Seaford - I won't be doing but I may come over to support
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    hiya,

    I did my first triathlon last year. (Lydney) I was a bit worried about swimming outdoors as I'm not a brilliant swimmer, so chose one with swimming in a pool. The only things that I purchased was a bike helmet, cycle top, some carbohydrate gel (which I wouldn't recommend as it gets everywhere!) and goggles. I had some coaching for the swimming to try to do it front crawl, but eventually did the 16 lengths breast stroke; 400m in 10 mins, which was brill for me, as in training I had been doing 12 - 15 mins. The one thing I found difficult was the cycling, and used my mountain bike. I wish I'd used a light weight bike, as there were lots of hills. The run I found fine as I'm a runner anyway, but it was on a field so painful for the ankles. All in all the training is interesting, and good (I was toned all over, not just my legs!:-). Good luck!:-)
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    GC - further to Buddha's response on swimming, I would add that open water swimming is usually easier in that the wetsuit helps you to float so you can normally go faster than if you are in a pool with no wetsuit (I reckon I'm 2 mins quicker over 1500m in open water).
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    Hi, You will probably find your legs feel tight as you start to run after the bike leg. A tip I have found useful for the bike-run transition is, during the last few hundred yards of the bike, stand up on the pedals and stretch your calves. Also try dropping a gear and spinning up in between stretches. This makes your leg muscles feel less tight when you start to run.

    I agree with the comments on net spending a stack of money on kit.

    Good luck!
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    A good way to start Triathlon is to pick a sprint distance with not too big a field and a pool swim. One of the first on the tri-calendar is the Sevenoaks sprint (http://www.7oaks-tri-club.co.uk/) on 15 April. A good addition to your kit list would be elastic laces, such as Flatlines (only available online i think), which allow you to just slip your running shoes on straight after your bike leg.
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    Thanks for responses - the bike section on the Wimbelball tri is long (56 miles) and v hilly, have been round in the car and will practice when weather gets more reliable - I reckon a road bike is best for this as you cant climb easily on a TT type bike? Do you agree and do I even need to fit tri bars on such a hilly course? Also where can I find a lake to swim in in Dorset?
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    I've done a couple of pool-based sprint distance ones. Wore swimming trunks for the swim, then put lycra running shorts (like cycle shorts but without an insert) over them and a close-fitting running T-shirt for the cycle and run. I wear touring type cycle shoes (so reasonable to trot in, then changed into running shoes for the run. I've found cutting the laces short and using spring toggles very quick and easy instead of trying to do up laces, and kept the shoes snugger than elastic laces. Otherwise, glasses and helmet essential, stopwatch/speedo a good idea, you can certainly cycle in running shoes but it's less efficient so a trade off between that and time spent in changing; tri-bars good but you need to get used to them (I ride club time-trials so I already was). For cycle training ride say 30 miles on a Saturday/Sunday regularly to build up some endurance, then have a go at a couple of local 10-mile time trials to get used to trying to ride as fast as you can. Try running to and from your local swimming pool so you get used to going from one discipline to another, and make sure you can run say four miles - that'll see you through the 5k. I thought the suggestion about standing up on the pedals towards the end of the ride was a very useful suggestion; in my first Tri I found the immediate transition from cyling to running very strange! Don't worry about getting fast at swimming, you'll make up far more time on the bike or run. And make sure you don't cycle in transition or disobey other specific rules or you'll get time penalties which is very frustrating!
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    56 miles for a bike leg is long, thats a half ironman distance..
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    "Do you agree and do I even need to fit tri bars on such a hilly course?"

    Well there will be less benefit than there would be TTing up the A1 but there will still be a noticeable benefit from having tri bars. If you've got them use them.
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    Yes the Wimbelball is the M Dot half iron man which is my goal for this year - then perhaps the real thing for next year. Does anyone have experience of the wimbelball course? the swim looks like the only flat bit there? Will get some tri bars and have a go. Going to do a sprint distance first then a mid distance with a half marathon and 10k thrown in along the way. Is a wet suit a standard item, what are the benefits in spending more money - the Yeovil Tri £25 hire is very tempting but would there be any need to spend more on a 'better' suit?
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    paradoxically, the weaker you are as a swimmer, the more advantage you'll get from having a cheap wetsuit. the cheaper ones tend to be thicker and therefore give your legs more bouyancy. if you're speedy already, you might be better with something thinner and a bit more moveable/better fit etc, but otherwise don't bother.

    the Tri UK ones are good, anyway, i originally hired mine from there 3? years ago and then bought it at the end of the season, and it's going fine. though i'm not sure i'll be able to squeeze into it this year.

    make sure you get the right size though, tri wetsuits should be really tight (like, you should feel a bit concerned about breathing when you put it on dry, and most people have to wrestle with it to get it on. this is normal. it's fine once you get in the water. i think TriUK have a sizing guide thing on their website.
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    Thats great - good advice that doesnt cost lots - Swimming is the weakest bit for me so will go for a Tri Uk suit - what about getting out of them is that such a struggle?
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    Once it's wet it is fairly simple to get out of a wetsuit. You just peel it off. I use some lubrication round my wrists and ankles, which helps, and you can also get some extra water in just before you finish the swim by pulling the neck open a bit.
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