I'm hoping to get out on Thursday for 2 miles then will try for another 2 on Saturday with either 2-3 next Sunday. If that goes well I should be able to start a 10k plan. Hope your knee doesn't cause too much trouble.
NP no swim today (once a week is enough even for a seemingly committed massochist) Yesterday's swim ended up being more of a paddle with a protracted walk over rocks in knee high water before we got in deep enough to swim. Mental note: check tide before swimming at that location again!
NN, well Done on some super running over the weekend !! a great long run that !!! Your running son must be proud of his mum !!
Fiona, Likewise a brilliant 22. Hope the knee calms down for you. Lulu is booked in
HM, well done for getting out and running. Good luck in 10k training
Stewart, great to see some good 800M sets to along side your Hadd running. Good to mix it up !!...and then finish weekend with your longest run ever
MG, Your running your long runs faster than me and I am fairly confident of beating 3:30. Seems to me you have more in the locker than you think
Tek, well done on your race fella, that speed and the miles your doing combined will get you to the start in ace shape !!
Stuart - you like your weekend walks. Good for you. Keep up the good work with the running.Enjoy todays 20 !
NP, I loved your race report and sumamry of a super race by you. Spend the money wisely Thanks and very well done with your long run too. A brilliant weekend of running
OH. I am in warwick now - but am off to dubai at the end of the month ( think thats what you meant ). Nice swim and run. I do not understand that picture - but the black looks ominous .... stay safe
An easy 11 miles this morning. All good. Less than 10 weeks to Brighton Marathon
OH, noticed last night that the ferries were cancelled for today, not suprising given the above image
AGF, look like your in a good place with the training keep up the good work
Fiona, hope the rolling has eased off the knee, I'm noticing the same once I get behond 8 miles the outside top of calf tightens up and the knee gripes a fair bit, but I'm on the roller and stretching hopefully it will sort itself out
HM4, good luck with the 10k training
NP, Another great run and the company helps, well done
Planning to do a gym session tonight, I may run to and from but that will be totally dependant on the weather, the forecast for this evening is blizzards.
A friend of mine has planted a seed in my head about doing the Lochaber Marathon in April, she seem to feel that given my current mileages and long runs, that I am in a good shape. If I was to do this I would only have about 10 weeks of training left.
Currently I'm doing around 50 miles a week, up to 17 miles long run with the majority @ an easy pace, I've been looking at the P&D shedules up to 55 miles, but I'm a bit light on the MLR's(10 miles max) and MP runs and I'm a little worried that I couldn't just jump into the middle of that shedule, especially since the coming week LR is a 20 miler.
I would be grateful if I could get some advice with this, have I left it to late!
Thank Stewart let's hope so. if your doing 50 miles a week then you have plenty of time to get 3x20 milers in and enjoy the race with lots of miles behind you. Treat it as a bonus. If I were you I would stay what your doing with exception making on of your mid week runs longer gradually. You can do P&D next time
You have a few females friends who talk you into running further than planned . ( just ribbing)
StewartC you have been increasing the miles without any problems and are on par with most of the people I run with from my club occasionally on a Saturday who are targeting VLM, I know their longest so far is 18 miles and their weekly mileage is no where near 50 miles, I am the only one doing P&D and havent told them just how any miles I am running in case it goes tits up and I look a right idiot....so I have played it down..lol...so although I am no expert I would say go for it..
AGF the weeks are ticking away arent they , into single figures now and 2/3 of them will be a taper, is Brighton flat ?
OH good grief find a swimming pool...I will let you into a secret, I haven't swam in the sea in this country since I was about 12..true !! I hate it cold, green yuk...and I live in Devon... near the so called English Rivera ...when I am abroad you cant keep me out the sea..
Very true Night Nurse....the thing is no answer is wrong. I ams sure with the mileage behind him Stewart will do well either way. My commenst were based on TEkniks large improvements based on hadd training last year. Thats what stewarts been doing and I think he might as well continue with that Journey. That said there are multiple folk on here who also do very well with P&D. Takes your choice
Have faith with your plan and your mileage NN. Your doing roughly double what you did last year based on Fetch and that coupled with the fact that you have had good mileage for the last few years = a very good race coming up for you
Brighton is mainly flat. There are a couple of hills near the start and at 8 miles, but to be honest they are not much to worry about - if anything they kurb the over excitement at the beginning of the race.
Stewart - Do it!! Your weekly mileage is higher than mine at the moment, and there is still plenty of time to get 3-4x20s in, as well as a few longer midweek runs. Use it as a learning experience for Loch Ness, that's pretty much what I'm doing.
OH - Looks a wee bit wild up your way. I'd keep out of the water
NP - Nice long run
HM - Well done, seems like a good idea to build slowly back into it.
Fiona - Take it easy with the knee
AGF - Nice run today
NN - Good run/weights double today
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19.97 @9.35 ave today. That wasn't even remotely fun, was ready to jack it at about 6 miles. Miles 3-12 were into driving rain/snow/hail. Ah well, it's done and this week is a recovery week
Well done SM6 nice pace average ,sounds appalling conditions...that's hard core !!! but how could you leave it at 19.97 ? no ocd I take it. ?
AGF thanks yes I know but you never know what can happen between now and then...I had a right disaster 2 years ago...mind you it was my own fault., I missed half of dec and Jan's training due to illness then crammed 100s of miles into feb and march and wore myself out...lesson learned the hard way.
Stuart nice 9 miler yesterday. Sorry the 20 miler was grim - miles in the bank, though.
Stewart brutal 17 miler - great stuff fella. On the Lochaber front I say (a) do it (b) use the P&D 12 week up to 55m schedule - you'll be ahead on the LSR mileage and (c) to cut the Gordian knot between NN and AGF, I use P&D to shape the week and its' mileage, but stick to Hadd HRs - in particular I would replace the tempo with a subLT.
OH well done for getting out there. Scary weather map! LOL at the swim fail...
NP great 22 miler - your mate Paul was the guy who steered me through the HR training, on Fetch
Well done on your 11 this morning AGF. I wish I could get up early enough for a double digit run!
Stewart you are going really well and ahead of most folks training for a Spring marathon. In fact the miles you are putting in I thought you were!
A well deserved recovery day NN and Teknik.
Stuart very well done for toughing it out. Blizzard conditions up here.
Did not run this morning then got as far as uncovering the treadmill tonight and decided to take the whole day off. This will be a recovery week (I am listening AGF ). Knee still just at the niggly stage but after ruining last year's VLM with continuing to run on an injury I'm just not prepared to chance it. May also take tomorrow morning off to be sure of a nice blizzardy hill run tomorrow night! Can't keep me away from that!!
I did my run on Thursday, but although all was ok during, the pain afterwards was quite severe so haven't ran since but did do a 10mile walk on Saturday.
Stewart - I feel, you will easily manage Lochaber with the miles you are presently doing and 10 more weeks training. I am doing Paris the week before Lochaber and have only ran 8 miles in the last 6 weeks!! I am optimistic that things will improve sometime soon!
AGF well done on the run today and good advice to SC but as far as speed work is concerned work hard on your LT runs which are faster than MP and add a few miles at MP to every other long run.
OH looks like your big pool is closed for a few days
NN well done on the recovery run and weights today.
SM6 that's a great run in poor conditions well done.
Teknik well done on the 6 miles tonight, Paul is a nice guy and is into the HR running he always tells me I run to fast but we where able to talk the whole way resting HR is 34/36 at the moment
Fiona your not the only one went swimming this morning and did 54x25 m and then looked at my training and noticed its over 3 weeks since my last non running day so no run today HIlls make you strong enjoy your hill run tomorrow.
Bradders two to three weeks is the norm for a taper even doing a 20 three weeks out.
£3.40 for a nose full of chlorine this evening while confined to a narrow lane - yes I braved it to the pool Wind didn't come to forecast epic levels today so hopefully should be OK for a run tomorrow afternoon. Lots of sleety snow around just now.
SM6 take it you didn't look at your Garmin until you got in or was the weather so foul that a further 0.03 mile was unthinkable
i'm new to this thread and this is my first marathon, i'm upto 15 miles at the moment but am struggling at around 14 miles in 2hr 40min, i can't seem to get beyond this distance, any advice from any one
Another newbie here, I am also attempting my first marathon this year (Stratford in April). Completed my first real long run on Sunday, well long for me, 12 miles in 1hr 32 mins. What I really want to know is do I have any chance of a sub 3.30 based on this time? I am 43 and have no experience with training program's and I'm just using some basic programme I got online.
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Good that you got out HM4, do you have a plan for this week?
NP fantastic race yesterday and followed by a long run! Great solo long run too by NN.
OH good that you dodged the squally showers.
Stewart nice run round Clava, the short sharp hill after the viaduct is a killer!
Teknik that's a great pace on a hilly course.
MG1 that was a fantastic long run yesterday, as you say a real confidence boost!
5 miles easy today. Felt the knee again but must be something that tightens up after use so back to the roller. Will take a break tomorrow morning.
Stuart I hope the weather is not too bad for the long run tomorrow.
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Fiona,
I'm hoping to get out on Thursday for 2 miles then will try for another 2 on Saturday with either 2-3 next Sunday. If that goes well I should be able to start a 10k plan. Hope your knee doesn't cause too much trouble.
Glad you got out HM4
Definitely a day for easy runs FionaC
NP no swim today (once a week is enough even for a seemingly committed massochist)
Yesterday's swim ended up being more of a paddle with a protracted walk over rocks in knee high water before we got in deep enough to swim.
Mental note: check tide before swimming at that location again!
Eeks - certainly no swimming tomorrow
From MSW (black represents 48' or greater swell)
Good that your plan is coming together HM4.
Blimey OH stay away from that! Forecast looks dire.
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NN, well Done on some super running over the weekend !! a great long run that !!! Your running son must be proud of his mum !!
Fiona, Likewise a brilliant 22. Hope the knee calms down for you. Lulu is booked in
HM, well done for getting out and running. Good luck in 10k training
Stewart, great to see some good 800M sets to along side your Hadd running. Good to mix it up !!...and then finish weekend with your longest run ever
MG, Your running your long runs faster than me and I am fairly confident of beating 3:30. Seems to me you have more in the locker than you think
Tek, well done on your race fella, that speed and the miles your doing combined will get you to the start in ace shape !!
Stuart - you like your weekend walks. Good for you. Keep up the good work with the running.Enjoy todays 20 !
NP, I loved your race report and sumamry of a super race by you. Spend the money wisely Thanks and very well done with your long run too. A brilliant weekend of running
OH. I am in warwick now - but am off to dubai at the end of the month ( think thats what you meant ). Nice swim and run. I do not understand that picture - but the black looks ominous .... stay safe
An easy 11 miles this morning. All good. Less than 10 weeks to Brighton Marathon
Black = wave hight over 48 feet
(but wind not too bad so far in Kirkwall)
OH, noticed last night that the ferries were cancelled for today, not suprising given the above image
AGF, look like your in a good place with the training keep up the good work
Fiona, hope the rolling has eased off the knee, I'm noticing the same once I get behond 8 miles the outside top of calf tightens up and the knee gripes a fair bit, but I'm on the roller and stretching hopefully it will sort itself out
HM4, good luck with the 10k training
NP, Another great run and the company helps, well done
Planning to do a gym session tonight, I may run to and from but that will be totally dependant on the weather, the forecast for this evening is blizzards.
A friend of mine has planted a seed in my head about doing the Lochaber Marathon in April, she seem to feel that given my current mileages and long runs, that I am in a good shape. If I was to do this I would only have about 10 weeks of training left.
Currently I'm doing around 50 miles a week, up to 17 miles long run with the majority @ an easy pace, I've been looking at the P&D shedules up to 55 miles, but I'm a bit light on the MLR's(10 miles max) and MP runs and I'm a little worried that I couldn't just jump into the middle of that shedule, especially since the coming week LR is a 20 miler.
I would be grateful if I could get some advice with this, have I left it to late!
You have a few females friends who talk you into running further than planned . ( just ribbing)
StewartC you have been increasing the miles without any problems and are on par with most of the people I run with from my club occasionally on a Saturday who are targeting VLM, I know their longest so far is 18 miles and their weekly mileage is no where near 50 miles, I am the only one doing P&D and havent told them just how any miles I am running in case it goes tits up and I look a right idiot....so I have played it down..lol...so although I am no expert I would say go for it..
AGF the weeks are ticking away arent they , into single figures now and 2/3 of them will be a taper, is Brighton flat ?
OH good grief find a swimming pool...I will let you into a secret, I haven't swam in the sea in this country since I was about 12..true !! I hate it cold, green yuk...and I live in Devon... near the so called English Rivera ...when I am abroad you cant keep me out the sea..
Fiona hope the niggles clear up.
HM4 hope you manage to get out this week
4 miles recovery and few weights today.
Cross post with AGF ...typical he says do P&D next time Stewart, thats the trouble if you ask for advice..you get so many different answers...
Very true Night Nurse....the thing is no answer is wrong. I ams sure with the mileage behind him Stewart will do well either way. My commenst were based on TEkniks large improvements based on hadd training last year. Thats what stewarts been doing and I think he might as well continue with that Journey. That said there are multiple folk on here who also do very well with P&D. Takes your choice
Have faith with your plan and your mileage NN. Your doing roughly double what you did last year based on Fetch and that coupled with the fact that you have had good mileage for the last few years = a very good race coming up for you
Brighton is mainly flat. There are a couple of hills near the start and at 8 miles, but to be honest they are not much to worry about - if anything they kurb the over excitement at the beginning of the race.
Stewart - Do it!! Your weekly mileage is higher than mine at the moment, and there is still plenty of time to get 3-4x20s in, as well as a few longer midweek runs. Use it as a learning experience for Loch Ness, that's pretty much what I'm doing.
OH - Looks a wee bit wild up your way. I'd keep out of the water
NP - Nice long run
HM - Well done, seems like a good idea to build slowly back into it.
Fiona - Take it easy with the knee
AGF - Nice run today
NN - Good run/weights double today
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19.97 @9.35 ave today. That wasn't even remotely fun, was ready to jack it at about 6 miles. Miles 3-12 were into driving rain/snow/hail. Ah well, it's done and this week is a recovery week
Well done SM6 nice pace average ,sounds appalling conditions...that's hard core !!! but how could you leave it at 19.97 ? no ocd I take it. ?
AGF thanks yes I know but you never know what can happen between now and then...I had a right disaster 2 years ago...mind you it was my own fault., I missed half of dec and Jan's training due to illness then crammed 100s of miles into feb and march and wore myself out...lesson learned the hard way.
NN another great long run - well done on the 21m
Stuart nice 9 miler yesterday. Sorry the 20 miler was grim - miles in the bank, though.
Stewart brutal 17 miler - great stuff fella. On the Lochaber front I say (a) do it (b) use the P&D 12 week up to 55m schedule - you'll be ahead on the LSR mileage and (c) to cut the Gordian knot between NN and AGF, I use P&D to shape the week and its' mileage, but stick to Hadd HRs - in particular I would replace the tempo with a subLT.
OH well done for getting out there. Scary weather map! LOL at the swim fail...
NP great 22 miler - your mate Paul was the guy who steered me through the HR training, on Fetch
HM well done
Fiona nice 5 miler - hope the roller's working
AGF nice easy 11 miles
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6m recovery tonight, all fine.
Just a quick question am doing VLM this year
And my training going to plan most I have done
Is 14 and half miles in 2.30 done 5x 10ks and 3 half marathons
I am booked on a 20 miler in 5 week am I right. In assuming
It would be to early to lower my miles with 6 weeks to
Go from there to London any advice would be great
Cheers
Well done on your 11 this morning AGF. I wish I could get up early enough for a double digit run!
Stewart you are going really well and ahead of most folks training for a Spring marathon. In fact the miles you are putting in I thought you were!
A well deserved recovery day NN and Teknik.
Stuart very well done for toughing it out. Blizzard conditions up here.
Did not run this morning then got as far as uncovering the treadmill tonight and decided to take the whole day off. This will be a recovery week (I am listening AGF ). Knee still just at the niggly stage but after ruining last year's VLM with continuing to run on an injury I'm just not prepared to chance it. May also take tomorrow morning off to be sure of a nice blizzardy hill run tomorrow night! Can't keep me away from that!!
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bradders - I think most plans have only a 3 week taper...
Jason - are you ok? Starting to worry...
mace - are you still lurgied?
YC - wishing you a speedier recovery mate
OH,
That sounds awful weather.
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Well done on everyone's training & thanks for your comments. Hope everyone's not too affect by the snow which is on the way.
Hi all lots of great weekend running again!
I did my run on Thursday, but although all was ok during, the pain afterwards was quite severe so haven't ran since but did do a 10mile walk on Saturday.
Stewart - I feel, you will easily manage Lochaber with the miles you are presently doing and 10 more weeks training. I am doing Paris the week before Lochaber and have only ran 8 miles in the last 6 weeks!! I am optimistic that things will improve sometime soon!
OH looks like your big pool is closed for a few days
NN well done on the recovery run and weights today.
SM6 that's a great run in poor conditions well done.
Teknik well done on the 6 miles tonight, Paul is a nice guy and is into the HR running he always tells me I run to fast but we where able to talk the whole way resting HR is 34/36 at the moment
Fiona your not the only one went swimming this morning and did 54x25 m and then looked at my training and noticed its over 3 weeks since my last non running day so no run today HIlls make you strong enjoy your hill run tomorrow.
Bradders two to three weeks is the norm for a taper even doing a 20 three weeks out.
£3.40 for a nose full of chlorine this evening while confined to a narrow lane - yes I braved it to the pool
Wind didn't come to forecast epic levels today so hopefully should be OK for a run tomorrow afternoon. Lots of sleety snow around just now.
SM6 take it you didn't look at your Garmin until you got in
or was the weather so foul that a further 0.03 mile was unthinkable
AGF 11 miles before 10
Tek good going to get out
Jason hasnt even logged any training on Fetch..but guess you have noticed that
NP do you tag MP miles on to occasional long runs instead of following the P&D sceduled MP runs ?
Bradders, agree with the others on a shorter taper.
Take care kaz but well done on getting more walking done.
NP more great swimming and impressive HR, mine is 10 bpm higher! Looking forward to the hills
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...hope jason's ok
Let's hope you get our run tomorrow OH.
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Tek - Nice run
OH/NP - Good swimming
Fiona - Take a rest day!!
Kaz - Hope you are ok
OH/NN - I actually thought my route would come out at 20.1, but even when I seen 19.97 I was too wet and cold to consider doing the extra 50 metres
Bad news once I came in that my local parkrun is cancelled for 8 weeks, just as I'm about to hit 50 runs too
Hello everyone
i'm new to this thread and this is my first marathon, i'm upto 15 miles at the moment but am struggling at around 14 miles in 2hr 40min, i can't seem to get beyond this distance, any advice from any one
Another newbie here, I am also attempting my first marathon this year (Stratford in April). Completed my first real long run on Sunday, well long for me, 12 miles in 1hr 32 mins. What I really want to know is do I have any chance of a sub 3.30 based on this time? I am 43 and have no experience with training program's and I'm just using some basic programme I got online.
Cheers