Ricky - You went for Limerick? Who's up for a Limerick writing competition.
Lovely city Limerick, all the clan will love it as there is something for all the family It makes it all the more real once you get your enrtry confirmed doesn't it?
Carl - I honestly think a lot of running is mental, mind over matter etc. The things I told myself when I am struggling! "Why would you run 90% of your distance and not finish it?"
"If you ever want to run X miles you'll have to do these first Y miles allover again if you stop now"
"Run another mile and see if we can run this niggle off"
"STOP ****ING WHINING MAN AND GET ON WITH IT!!" That kind of thing
Ranulph Fiennes was quoted as saying that at difficult times he imagines himself chased by wild dogs and uses that scenario to drive himself on. I'm also incredibly stubborn which helps. I always feel happier after a crap run where I have had to dig out a performance than I do the days I sail around, in a way having those moments of determination are the mental equivalent of getting miles into the legs, just knowing when push comes to shove you have what is needed upstairs is reassuring.
As for pace I agree with Carter your PB is there to be smashed without getting gung ho and risking blowing up. I can't think of a better motivation throughout the summer than having a great PB under your belt but thinking it is still there to be bettered with all your training methods and experience gained.
Look at me I'm already planning your next event! None of this footallers "one game at a time" stuff for me.
Now for 7 miles in the snow this morning. Depending just how good it is underfoot will determine just what pace I throw in. It is fairly fresh so I should be fine but going nipple over knackers in the snow and wrecking myself at this point wouldn't be my wisest move.
Hmm. I've just been reading on another thread about someone who has previously run the South Yorkshire half - the words 'undulating' and 'with a couple of hills' were used. This is the opposite of what Garmin says when I mapped the route on there. Oh well, we will see what happens when I get there.
So, I guess what is being said is that running a marathon is going to hurt !
Regarding mind over matter, at the half I did a couple of weeks ago I saw a guy pull up at about 12.5 miles....and he pulled out of the race. The marshalls were saying "The finish is literally just around the corner", but he just shook his head, took his number off and gave it to a marshall. My first thought was "why run 12.5 miles of a half and not finish?", but I suppose he could have had a big injury. However, he didn't look like he had an injury...he just looked tired. I can only presume he was going for a PB and realised he wasn't going to get it, so pulled out.
Carter - you probably already know, but on Garmin Connect you can search for races of other runners to get an idea of the profile if the event was run last year. Look up 2 or 3 runners as there are discrepancies, but I used it as a guide on the half I did the other week.
On Garmin Connect go to Explore-Courses. Click on "Show filters" and use that to narrow down the search. One small tip is to open up each link/result in a different tab/browser as if you don't, when you click the back button on your browser you have to type in your search criteria again.
Carter - The standard has been set. I won't say what that standard is just that it's been set
7 miles this morning at no great pace in the end. It turned in to more of a recovery run and a challenge to stay upright all the way around. I didn't feel confident enough to try and pick up the pace with conditions being what they were.
7 miles @ 8:55 avg pace
Now if you will excuse me I have some Limericks to write
I don't believe it, I had a tricky run this morning because of the snow and ice and didn't really acheive what I wanted from it other than the mileage and it has all thawed away now. I was running across fields in a snowstorm 12 hours ago, I wish I had waited now.
Lmaooo - can't follow that from the limerick artists!
I skived off early and got out on the road for a run at 5pm. Now my tempo Tuesday is usually a 6 miler but I had time to get my MLR done before the sun went down.
So I combined the MLR with the tempo session and did a solid 10 miler all at tempo pace.
Quite a tough country lane route all the way with some long tough climbs in mile 2 & 3, downhill mile 4 and undulating for the rest.
Ran the 10 mls in just over 81mins and averaged 8.08 pace.
Anyway back to the serious stuff. It was very cold out there tonight.
1 mile wu at 8:50 pace.
6 miles tempo :
7:40; 7:33; 7:31; 7:16;7:12 and 7:05
1 mile cd at 10:00 pace.
Had a very busy day at work and ate at all the wrong times. Thought that my legs would be a liittle heavy after Saturdays efforts but found that after a few miles I was able to really move and I quite enjoyed it.
Speedy one Carl! I think you have definitely emerged as the greyhound of this thread ... you are the first to race their marathon and I suspect you will set the bar very high for the rest of us!
Following my tempo run last night my calf is giving me a bit of grief this morning. It first came on after Liversedge half and only appears after a speed session for some reason. I have my calf guard on will do plenty of stretching during the day and rollering this evening. Rest day for me today.
6 miler for me - usually do intervals on the treadmill on this one but might just do a steady run as I had a speed session yesterday & have another one tomorrow (hill session) and will prob switch 2nd MLR to Friday as Sat's kinda busy for me this week.
I feel quite leggy this morning after yesterday's run, on reflection my "can do" attitude yesterday disguised what bloody hard work it was. I didn't feel confident to try and go faster on the pavements and in honesty I felt I didn't have the oomph to drive it faster even if i had wanted to. I am fortunate to have a rest day as part of my HM taper so I think some stretching will probably be the extent of it today. I am keeping it positive so the tiredness I'm feeling tells me yesterdays run was more testing than I had given myself credit for. In hindsight I was running on a surface everyone else around me was struggling to stand up on
I want to do a tempo run tomorrow just to reassure myself the pace is there and then it is easy street until Sunday nothing more than helping out on a Parkrun Saturday as the sweep up runner so that'll serve well as a loosener without being too strenuous.
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Ricky - You went for Limerick? Who's up for a Limerick writing competition.
Lovely city Limerick, all the clan will love it as there is something for all the family It makes it all the more real once you get your enrtry confirmed doesn't it?
Carl - I honestly think a lot of running is mental, mind over matter etc. The things I told myself when I am struggling! "Why would you run 90% of your distance and not finish it?"
"If you ever want to run X miles you'll have to do these first Y miles allover again if you stop now"
"Run another mile and see if we can run this niggle off"
"STOP ****ING WHINING MAN AND GET ON WITH IT!!" That kind of thing
Ranulph Fiennes was quoted as saying that at difficult times he imagines himself chased by wild dogs and uses that scenario to drive himself on. I'm also incredibly stubborn which helps. I always feel happier after a crap run where I have had to dig out a performance than I do the days I sail around, in a way having those moments of determination are the mental equivalent of getting miles into the legs, just knowing when push comes to shove you have what is needed upstairs is reassuring.
As for pace I agree with Carter your PB is there to be smashed without getting gung ho and risking blowing up. I can't think of a better motivation throughout the summer than having a great PB under your belt but thinking it is still there to be bettered with all your training methods and experience gained.
Look at me I'm already planning your next event! None of this footallers "one game at a time" stuff for me.
Now for 7 miles in the snow this morning. Depending just how good it is underfoot will determine just what pace I throw in. It is fairly fresh so I should be fine but going nipple over knackers in the snow and wrecking myself at this point wouldn't be my wisest move.
Hmm. I've just been reading on another thread about someone who has previously run the South Yorkshire half - the words 'undulating' and 'with a couple of hills' were used. This is the opposite of what Garmin says when I mapped the route on there. Oh well, we will see what happens when I get there.
So, I guess what is being said is that running a marathon is going to hurt !
There once was a man called Oirish
Who often liked taking the pish
He could run quite fast
But he never finished last
The problem was he looked like a fish
There once was an Irishman called Carl
When running he would often snarl
Off to Paris he goes
Lets hope it does not snow
And after the race he does not gnarl
(not many words rhyming with Carl !)
There once was a man called Spoons
Who enjoyed eating plenty of prunes
He was old and he was wise
And loved eating burgers and fries
But to the gym he would go in the afternoons
(not sure why this is all food related !)
There once was a man called Ricky
Coming from Ireland he wasn’t very picky
He enjoyed the crack
Running fast he did not lack
After a run he would always have a biccie
There once was a man called Carter
In a marathon he was a first time starter
He started running faster
Especially after some pasta
And his missus said he was a farter
Regarding mind over matter, at the half I did a couple of weeks ago I saw a guy pull up at about 12.5 miles....and he pulled out of the race. The marshalls were saying "The finish is literally just around the corner", but he just shook his head, took his number off and gave it to a marshall. My first thought was "why run 12.5 miles of a half and not finish?", but I suppose he could have had a big injury. However, he didn't look like he had an injury...he just looked tired. I can only presume he was going for a PB and realised he wasn't going to get it, so pulled out.
Carter - you probably already know, but on Garmin Connect you can search for races of other runners to get an idea of the profile if the event was run last year. Look up 2 or 3 runners as there are discrepancies, but I used it as a guide on the half I did the other week.
On Garmin Connect go to Explore-Courses. Click on "Show filters" and use that to narrow down the search. One small tip is to open up each link/result in a different tab/browser as if you don't, when you click the back button on your browser you have to type in your search criteria again.
Carter - The standard has been set. I won't say what that standard is just that it's been set
7 miles this morning at no great pace in the end. It turned in to more of a recovery run and a challenge to stay upright all the way around. I didn't feel confident enough to try and pick up the pace with conditions being what they were.
7 miles @ 8:55 avg pace
Now if you will excuse me I have some Limericks to write
Ladies and Gentlemen your attention please.
I joined this forum as everyone seemed nice
With Spoons' encouragement and good advice
With the minimum of fuss
he's convinced all of us
to run 13.1 miles not once but twice
This was all inspired by Ricky W
who had the options of a race or two
it's not such a pity
he went for "Stab city"
As they put on a really good do
Carter was the talk of the town
A sex machine just like James Brown
It sounds quite improbable
but he was unstoppable
the King of Soul had yielded his crown
In the countryside a runner named Carl
Suffered a mishap hurdling a stile
He noticed whilst pissing
a testicle missing
which ruined his smooth running style
A charming female runner named Dobster
In pain turned red as a lobster
Her left leg blew up
she nearly threw up
She looked like she'd been hit by a mobster
I was confused when joined here by BIg G
as that's what my father calls me
don't you think it a bit odd
that the silly old sod
calls me that, as surely he's Big G not me
Now let me tell you all about Hannah
who has been nervously eying her planner
but like it or not
London in April can be hot
so we are all on standby to fan her
And finally we all come to Bruno
whose pacing is causing him terrible woe
he's not the fella from "Strictly"
who makes me feel sickly
but someone training as if he's Seb Coe
THE END
I'm not even going to try.....
My life is like my training; I really must get out more
Too much time on your hands on this thread! Get out running!!!!
She'll never beat carter as we all know
She's far too old to have a chance
She'd be better off running in France
The gun has sounded now off you go
Warm up of 1.5 miles @ 9:33
Tempo of 4.0 miles @ 7:28
Cool down of 1.84 miles @ 10:16
Outrageous!!!!!
Give me a minute or two to compose my reply!!
Her limerick reply will no doubt be late
She's replying to a verse from carter
We'll have a long wait as no she is not smarter
But it looks like she has taken the bait
Make poetry not war
There was a bloke called Carter
Who claimed that he was smarter,
Shouting "I am so fast!",
he then came last,
and Rachel laughed much harder!
Way too much time on peoples hands today. Productivity must have been poor in certain places !!!
I am going to brave the conditions and go out for a tempo run.
Carl- Doesn't scan, rhyme or conform to the structure of a Limerick. A very poor effort.
I don't believe it, I had a tricky run this morning because of the snow and ice and didn't really acheive what I wanted from it other than the mileage and it has all thawed away now. I was running across fields in a snowstorm 12 hours ago, I wish I had waited now.
I skived off early and got out on the road for a run at 5pm. Now my tempo Tuesday is usually a 6 miler but I had time to get my MLR done before the sun went down.
So I combined the MLR with the tempo session and did a solid 10 miler all at tempo pace.
Quite a tough country lane route all the way with some long tough climbs in mile 2 & 3, downhill mile 4 and undulating for the rest.
Ran the 10 mls in just over 81mins and averaged 8.08 pace.
8.15; 8.18; 8.16; 7.35; 7.57; 8.09; 8.21; 8.12; 8.10; 8.02
Felt strong and felt I could have sustained the pace quite easily for another few miles.
I suppose it tells me my HM pace must be close to 8 m/mls?
Ricky - probably a bit quicker if you're knocking that out in training
Anyway back to the serious stuff. It was very cold out there tonight.
1 mile wu at 8:50 pace.
6 miles tempo :
7:40; 7:33; 7:31; 7:16;7:12 and 7:05
1 mile cd at 10:00 pace.
Had a very busy day at work and ate at all the wrong times. Thought that my legs would be a liittle heavy after Saturdays efforts but found that after a few miles I was able to really move and I quite enjoyed it.
Very few runners out there tonight.
Speedy one Carl! I think you have definitely emerged as the greyhound of this thread ... you are the first to race their marathon and I suspect you will set the bar very high for the rest of us!
No pressure of course.......
Oirish - good running in what sounds like difficult conditions. Lets hope that's the last snow and ice we see for a few months.
Ricky - nice tempo session. I agree with Spoons that your HM pace will probably be quicker than 8 mins
Nice tempo Carl
Following my tempo run last night my calf is giving me a bit of grief this morning. It first came on after Liversedge half and only appears after a speed session for some reason. I have my calf guard on will do plenty of stretching during the day and rollering this evening. Rest day for me today.
What's everyone else got planned for today ?
I feel quite leggy this morning after yesterday's run, on reflection my "can do" attitude yesterday disguised what bloody hard work it was. I didn't feel confident to try and go faster on the pavements and in honesty I felt I didn't have the oomph to drive it faster even if i had wanted to. I am fortunate to have a rest day as part of my HM taper so I think some stretching will probably be the extent of it today. I am keeping it positive so the tiredness I'm feeling tells me yesterdays run was more testing than I had given myself credit for. In hindsight I was running on a surface everyone else around me was struggling to stand up on
I want to do a tempo run tomorrow just to reassure myself the pace is there and then it is easy street until Sunday nothing more than helping out on a Parkrun Saturday as the sweep up runner so that'll serve well as a loosener without being too strenuous.
Happy running