To echo Maccydee - I can't see its worth the risk for 300m in the cold water. Unless you are training for something that will be that cold - it's a bit foolish.
And in a triathlon you need to run in a top. Or you'll be disqualified.
I don't get in the lakes until mid-end of May. Way too cold for me at end of April usually. I have tried, but 200m was the max, just couldn't breathe or swim properly as limbs were so stiff. I figured I may as well focus on technique in the pool with a quality session, than 200m freezing my nuts off in a lake.
Not seen the trunks/crop top combo since Dave Scott and Mark Allen in the IronWar era.
However, if that's your thing, then maybe you should get yourself along to this gym session, as you'll benefit from some strength/core/conditioning work, and it's good to get away from the three disciplines occasionally:
Most peoples difficulties with swimming in open water, is fear, aclimitisation or sighting. As your swimming in a quarry in January I think we can rule the first two out.
For sighting, I cant see that a 300m/10 min swim will help a great deal either, you need to be swimming a proper course, also getting used to sighting with other swimmers around near race conditions when you can't see the buoys so easily.
Unless you're swimming at 45 degree's to the direction you want to go I wouldnt worry to much at this point, as I say 300 swims wont help you improve in my opinion.
Getting back to the question "How can I train for swimming outside", given you have access to a 25m pool, I think you should use it. Improving your technique & structured intervals, ideally some lessons or coaching will help improve your open water swimming far more than a 10 minute splash about in a quarry,
I would say you would be better doing a decent swim session in a 25m pool about 3x a week. Try and get up to distances of about 1500m, maybe even further. If you look up triathlon swim sessions, you should be able to find them. You should do some drills as well as general swimming. Going and trashing out 300m in a lake/quarry everyday is not going to help you that much and its risky.
I went to the local swimming pool on Friday. Did 100 lengths (25m x 100), some front crawl and breast stroke on every other length.
Problem is that it is so busy, supposed to be a Public Swim, but you got mothers and baby units floating down the shallow end which messes your stuff up. Prefer the open water, you don't hit anything.
Went running afterwards, did 12 miles. Muscles on my back and arms are aching and feel so drained.
No, had to reverse or go round, but you know what I mean, though. That is why I prefer the outside. Seems there is no control to what session is what the class as a "public swim" or "mother & baby swim" - the two are mixed in it seems...
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And in a triathlon you need to run in a top. Or you'll be disqualified.
I don't get in the lakes until mid-end of May. Way too cold for me at end of April usually. I have tried, but 200m was the max, just couldn't breathe or swim properly as limbs were so stiff. I figured I may as well focus on technique in the pool with a quality session, than 200m freezing my nuts off in a lake.
Either Paul is a little nutty or there's a little too much credence given here. I hope it's the former.
Some of his other threads may help your decision process...
Ha ha. I see what you mean.
Has April 1st come early??
Not seen the trunks/crop top combo since Dave Scott and Mark Allen in the IronWar era.
However, if that's your thing, then maybe you should get yourself along to this gym session, as you'll benefit from some strength/core/conditioning work, and it's good to get away from the three disciplines occasionally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbwoGYxKEf8
Ha ha ha ha ... I've just been reading the Running & Sex thread ... pure gold
but Crewe baths is only 25 m.... Nantwich is 33 m. So you would be better off at Nantwich
What about the new place? It's just been finished.
Most peoples difficulties with swimming in open water, is fear, aclimitisation or sighting. As your swimming in a quarry in January I think we can rule the first two out.
For sighting, I cant see that a 300m/10 min swim will help a great deal either, you need to be swimming a proper course, also getting used to sighting with other swimmers around near race conditions when you can't see the buoys so easily.
Unless you're swimming at 45 degree's to the direction you want to go I wouldnt worry to much at this point, as I say 300 swims wont help you improve in my opinion.
Getting back to the question "How can I train for swimming outside", given you have access to a 25m pool, I think you should use it. Improving your technique & structured intervals, ideally some lessons or coaching will help improve your open water swimming far more than a 10 minute splash about in a quarry,
I cam do 1k but my arms feel like they are dropping off, if i do a bit every day will help.
Getting a decent training program will help....
I would say you would be better doing a decent swim session in a 25m pool about 3x a week. Try and get up to distances of about 1500m, maybe even further. If you look up triathlon swim sessions, you should be able to find them. You should do some drills as well as general swimming. Going and trashing out 300m in a lake/quarry everyday is not going to help you that much and its risky.
3 times a week ? Do you know how much time he spends on the nest ?
I went to the local swimming pool on Friday. Did 100 lengths (25m x 100), some front crawl and breast stroke on every other length.
Problem is that it is so busy, supposed to be a Public Swim, but you got mothers and baby units floating down the shallow end which messes your stuff up. Prefer the open water, you don't hit anything.
Went running afterwards, did 12 miles. Muscles on my back and arms are aching and feel so drained.
So you hit mothers and babies?
No, had to reverse or go round, but you know what I mean, though. That is why I prefer the outside. Seems there is no control to what session is what the class as a "public swim" or "mother & baby swim" - the two are mixed in it seems...
stop moaning and bl**dy get on with it...
get yourself a decent training program and knuckle down to it....
the rest of us manage
There is nothing here, really. So have to do it alone.
You train in the pool at Crewe ?
I know of half a dozen triathlon clubs in 30 minutes drive
And you haven't got a plan, how can you target a race without a plan ?
I managed to complete 4 IM's living within 40 minutes of the pool you use....
man up get a plan and stop moaning