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I started a run/walk just before half way of about 150m walk/1500 run and on training of not much more than 60 miles in the preceding 3 months I managed to finish in my slowest ever time but I was overtaking people at the end.
Long time lurker...Due to run Paris this year (in the 3:45 pen) as my second marathon. (Brighton last year in 3:54).....But I've hit trouble and keen on opinions.
Training had been going well, already had two 20 mile runs in the bank (last one on sun 12th) then hit with some awful virus/flu that has knocked me off my feet since.
My plan was a 22 last weekend and then a 15-18 this Sunday.
I think i might be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel but given i haven't run for almost two weeks, what do I do now?
Have i already lost too much to run Paris? Or is this still recoverable?
If i can get out in the next few days where do i go from here?
Mentally i want to get another 18-20 in the bank so i know I'm strong enough but something tells me that might not be a good idea and that i should work back up slowly.
What does the wisdom of the forum think?
Thanks all and great thread.
If your training had been going well before your illness and you've only lost two weeks then it shouldn't impact you too much. I wouldn't try and fit another 20 in at this point. Start your taper and get healthy for the start line.
In terms of telling how you've recovered. If you track your heart rate that'll be a good guide to how clear of the illness you are. I'd take your first few runs back very easy though. With a virus you can feel fine, but it's still not clear of your system and any exercise feels much harder.
I'm 29195, Violet (although am planning to move back a corral).
I have a couple of questions:
1. For the 5k breakfast run, do I understand correctly that there are no bibs, just a shirt that you need to wear during the run? My husband would like to run the 5k but is not registered for the marathon, so could I then have one of my brothers (who is running the marathon) add in the 5k then just give the shirt to my husband to run it instead?
2. Is it too late to be added to the dinner with you all the evening before the race? I'm traveling with a group of 6 adults total (3 are running the marathon), 1 toddler and 1 infant. If possible, we'd love to join you.
3. What's the bathroom situation on the course itself? Are there bathrooms at each water stop (every 5k)?
My background: I'm an American living in Italy. I have two brothers who are meeting me in Paris from the US to also run, which I'm super excited about. This will be marathon #5 for me - Paris has been on my wish list for years and this was the year to finally make it happen. I registered and two days later learned I was pregnant with baby #2, so have only put in 6 weeks of training (and modified my expectations) since I got clearance from my doctor after the baby was born. But... I ran my last long run Thursday (35k) and am feeling good about this race!
1. Yes, to run the breakfast run it's a technical tshirt that you need to wear that you collect at the expo. Your brother could do as you suggest, or your husband could sign up to the ASO site you registered to for the marathon and enter himself. You don't need to be doing the marathon to run the breakfast run, you can enter it on its own.
2. I'll add you all to the pasta meal list for the Saturday night. I'll post the details of where and when again a few time before the event.
3. They're not at every water station from memory. I tend to shuffle by them in a daze, but from what I remember they're scattered around sporadically on the course. The start pens are the worst for them, in that there are never anywhere near enough for the number of people in each pen.
In the past (a few years ago) hill running would always cause my right knee to pop. That is why I almost always avoid any races with significant hills apart from the half marathon last week. I'm hoping that the early hills combined with pushing a little harder than I should on a grumbling knee is what caused the problem. I can easily avoid both those mistakes in Paris.
New things I learnt:
I need to do mine too Fred, thanks for the reminder.
I had some pain while running when I first started back again so took another week + to get readjusted...And have been taking ibuprofen before all my long runs since with guidance from a PT (along with additional stretching). You might try the same if you're anticipating some pain or inflammation?
I'm not fond of gels but know I need the energy from them, so typically take them slowly (probably over a 5-10 minute stretch) and try to time it with a water stop to help get it down easier. That might be something else to try, as I'm not sure jelly babies alone will give you the boost that you need? Just something to consider -
Great job on pushing through your run today!
I've just had a look at my ASO page, and if I add the Breakfast tun as an option, it then takes me to the payment page and I can change the quantity there. Looking at my emails though, last year it seems I created an ASO account for my partner and registered him for the run that way, but they might have changed the system for this year.
Katey - Well done on your run. I did laugh at your food comments. I think most running food labels bare little resemblance to what the thing inside actually tastes like.
One tip. Try and sleep well during the week in the lead up to the marathon. Very few runners sleep well the night before the race due to nerves.
2014
Finished in 5:40:09
2015
Finished in 5:19:17
Last year I ran Valencia in 4:44:something so for any of you worried about being slow who can't imagine ever being able to run faster, I can hand on my heart say those cliched words "If I can do it, anyone can..."
And I haven't hung up my hat yet on getting a bit faster again despite my advancing years
Katey: well done on the 30km. Jelly babies are always good! Can I please beg you not to take ibuprofen during the race? If you need a painkiller then paracetamol is your friend. Ibuprofen can cause kidney issues during intense sport and it's generally not advised. We have a Dr on the forum and he posts the reasons why but maybe Google it for quickness.
Great news about the music! I know a friend that keeps the music as a treat at 17 miles. She does nothing before then, then 17-18 miles when she struggles she gets out the music for a boost.
"Research strongly points to the conclusion that pre-run Advil [US brand of ibuprofen] use is not only ineffective, but dangerous. Prostaglandins increase blood flow to the kidneys, so the inhibition of their production can predispose runners to renal failure, especially in longer events where dehydration is at issue. All NSAIDs can damage the stomach mucosa and result in ulceration and bleeding in the gastrointestinal tract. Advil use before running can also lead to endotoxemia, the leakage of bacteria from the colon into the bloodstream. On the whole, health professionals strongly discourage Advil use before running."
So Katey - you were absolutely right to be taking paracetamol during your run today.
More good news - no navigation issues during the race - just follow the blue line
But there are showers at some points along the route. Nice and cool but remember to keep any electronics protected.
Very civilised but I decided not to stop otherwise I wouldn't have got going again.
Well i failed to get out this weekend as my temperature is still spiking every now and again. Small matter of a house move tomorrow (let's hope the misses doesn't realise I'm wasting time on here instead of packing!), So now aiming at getting out on Tuesday, which might give me enough time to get a few decent runs in.
I think if I'm still laid low then I'll have to pull out though.
Does anyone know if you can get a discounted entry for next year or anything if you pull out with injury/illness? Or have i just lost the entry fee.....And the Eurotunnel...And the hotel....