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Oh that's really poor migrant, especially as there was not very much in the cups to start with nearer the front. A massive under calculation. But it was very rare conditions on sunday, but still no excuse for something so important.
Brighton marathon have just sent an apology email out as well just as I read this.
MACb - sounds like a good time to me!! Well done!
Katelotte. P&D schedule is a training plan - google it and see what you think.
Cal, I beg to differ, I rate Brighton as one of the best in the world. I have done top marathons all over the World and still rate Brighton up there with the best. (But I admit I have not done Manchester).
I have never had any problems you mention or noticed a fish stinking area?
I will do London probably next year but Brighton will still probably be my main Marathon. Loved everyone of them
Well I take it back then,,, Looks like a good marathon for faster runners and shambles for slower runners which is a shame as the Brighton locals support and volunteers / medics deserve better from the organisers!
Would be interesting to know which other marathons people recommend. Berlin is probably my favourite!
The entire weekend was a complete Omni-shambles.
Apologists can blame the unseasonal weather but its a non-excuse.
The Expo on Saturday afternoon was a queuing hell. One volunteer at a desk for each coloured wave was not enough. Queues behind burning up in the heat.
Wave colour should be allocated at time of entry. Not at the Expo. Green wave was being fast-tracked to the front of the queuing system when I checked in, so obviously loads were taking advantage to get out of the sun & register as a slow 'green' when they were nothing of the sort.
Race day:- Preston Park.
trying to access the park whilst the 10k race was in progress was ridiculous. No clearly marked access points or marshalls.
Once inside the usual shortage of loos & tap water was a big issue.
Runners friends & family were also clogging up the park. It should have been runners-only entry.
The wave system didn't work. Gun went off at 09.15, the green wave left the park at 10.04.....too long a wait.
The race:- the lack of water on course is well documented and not a fabrication. It was a disaster, especially around the power station area.
Very few running at this point. Constant wailing ambulance sirens, vomiting & feinting runners & walkers, made it like a scene from the Walking Dead.
Minimal marshaling & barriers to keep pedestrians away from runners.
This was a major issue on the run back along Hove seafront. It was ridiculous, dodging prams, mobility scooters etc. It's no wonder runners got disorientated & wandered off-course.
The finish area was a farce. The goody bag tables were sparsely manned. Folk were helping themselves to the little that was left.
Exiting the expo/marathon zone, again, was a disaster. no segregation between runners & the general public. As for the 'bridge of doom' over the road, to escape the seafront, I'm jut surprised there wasn't a crush. It was dangerous.
Brighton has not got the infrastructure in place to cope with a mass participation marathon. The attitude of the local businesses to the visitors is also a big problem.
From hotels, to b&b's, uber taxis, cafe's, everyone increased their prices for the marathon weekend. It doesn't make you want to return & indeed, I won't.
Much for the organisers to consider once they've finished counting their money.
A 'marquee', big named sponsor is needed to move the event forward & improve a farcically badly organized event. The weather was the least of the problems.
I don't have time/knowledge to comment on all the above, but some things -
T shirts - if you got the wrong size
There was a massive number of no shows among the vols, organisers had to spread those who turned up out the best they could. If you or your friends volunteer for anything, remind them of this!
Hotels, taxis, prices.
Beyond organisers control, it happens at all big events, something else I go to (not related to running) if you look at B&Bs the websites say £50 a night except these dates when it's £100
A shame John but as you say lots of these things happen at most big events.
Although Brighton do always seem to have a problem with water be it the pouch company going bust (prior year) or not enough water etc etc.. and the bloody expo. What is it with marathons and making runners suffer the day before the race. (not just Brighton but all big marathons).
Great supporters and volunteers though - thanks to them it was still a special day!
I ran Brighton last year but was on holiday for the race this year; however, I coached three friends for the race and know a handful of other people who ran. It's interesting that none of the feedback I and others gave after last year's race seems to have been acted upon - despite even warmer conditions. Here is my review from last year:
Good but not memorable This was my 7th marathon, but first Brighton. Overall, it's a good race - but it isn't "London-on-Sea". It's a shame that the organisers don't seem to have taken anything on board from last year's reviews and seem more interested in cutting costs than in taking the race from good to great. Let me start by saying that I didn't have a great race. I got tripped at the water station at around 14 miles and couldn't regain my pace, and from 18-22 miles really went backwards. Still managed to finish in a respectable time as I'd flown through the first half so reasonably happy, but there are a number of things that could make this race so much better.1. I'm not sure why the race packs can't be posted out. I understand why you have to collect them in person at London - but this isn't London. It's not a big city that's easily accessible from all areas of the country and it's frankly annoying to have to either travel to Brighton twice, or incur extra expense by having to stay over for two nights. 2. I really liked that runners were able to choose their own starting corral. I think in the main most people were honest about their likely finishing time and this was a nice touch which worked well.3. The kit bags were FAR too small. And to be sent an email the day before the race advising this was poor. We were lucky that it was a dry day because the bags could not have fitted in a spare pair of trainers - and the worst thing after a race when your feet have got wet is to be unable to change into dry shoes. My kit bag fitted (at a squeeze): jogging bottoms, long-sleeved top and thin fleece. I'm a small person so my clothes are small. Bigger people would have been able to fit in less. Poor.4. Toilets. Every review I've read has mentioned the lack of sufficient toilets at the start. We arrived at the start with over an hour to go and the queues were already right across the park. Which left no option but to pee in bushes or behind trees - because frankly I wasn't willing to waste an hour in a queue only to miss the start of the race - as many did. Come on organisers - sort this out!5. The start entailed walking through thick, cakey mud. Clearly previous runners of this race knew this as they had plastic bags over their trainers. The rest of us were trying to bang off 3-4cm of mud against the barriers as we moved towards the start line. Not great. Needs one of those criss-cross matting systems to stop the ground become wet and slippery.6. Water at the water stations was in cups, despite many complaints about this last year. Having read the reviews, I took my own water bottle. It's impossible to adequately hydrate from a cup - most of it ends up all over your face or down your front, or you inhale it. Small bottles would be better - but these cost more money. Go figure.7. The course is NOT flat. I didn't pay as much attention to the profile map as I should have done - the first half has quite a lot of short, sharp climbs and some gradual long ascents, which are barely perceptible at the time but really take their toll on the legs. I realise that it's difficult to work out a route that doesn't involve massive hills, given the proximity to the South Downs, hence having to loop out both sides of Brighton and then back in again, but both the 15-18 and the 20-23 mile sections were SO dull. In particular the power station - the lack of crowds didn't bother me that much but it was hot, there was nothing to look at and the smell of rotting fish was revolting. 9. The atmosphere was great - the sunshine definitely helped, but everyone was really friendly and encouraging.10. I liked the finish and this was generally smooth - nice having the repatriation area on the beach too. Overall, the race was well-organised but little touches would have made it that much better for the runners. I think the entry fee is overly expensive for what you get and even on a lovely sunny day, sections of the course are pretty tedious and unimaginative. But that's the trade-off for keeping it relatively flat. I enjoyed it, but not sure I enjoyed it enough to do it again.
Still not sure I'd do it again ... especially after the feedback here and from friends.