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I don't know what training DK does now but he used to run 10 miles a day all at an easy pace and he's never let his performance drop, amazing runner especially for his age.
Steve - good luck to your GF at the GSR, she'll be joining us on this thread next
Nick - I'm sure when a race chucks in stats about % of PB's they'll have included all first timers who are of course guaranteed a PB as long as they finish.
John - ask away, only too happy to help. If you have room in your bum bag maybe a little cereal bar, if you think you're going to be hungry in the latter stages. Then if you are and hitting a bad patch you can eat that, knowing that you've fuelled yourself can often help you through a bad patch mentally.
Jelly - that's a good habit to have a water bottle handy. Re your week's running, that's the downside of club/group training that the group are often too fast/slow for what you want/need to do.
Iain - 14 is still a decent distance, maybe you were a bit tired.
SK - you'll just have to run like hell then on Sunday, no chance of being able to pick off your opponents. Does everyone get a cabbage at the race or just the prize winners? I guess just the prize winners, otherwise delivering and distributing cabbages would be quite a task
mamafox - the next time you do a short race go like hell at the finish and take your MHR from that, add on a few beats say 5, if you're not sick or need oxygen. I'm sure your base training is at the right level otherwise you wouldn't have made the improvements that you have.
I omitted to say earlier that I'm so pleased to hear that your tendonitis has finally gone, that's been a very long time. I don't suppose you'll ever know what got rid of it!
I haven't bought any new shoes, these are a pair of Guide 9's that I bought earlier in the year, I always keep a spare pair of race shoes.
Another mild morning here, nice easy run, heel fine.
Jelly - I've actually had a good experience with pacers before. I'd avoid if there are big crowds around them but at most races they'll have a couple of pacers for each time, so it at least spreads people out. I wouldn't rely on them entirely, because as Big G says, you may want to vary your pace by feel, but it's often nice to have the company and the feeling of a common goal.
I totally missed that MF's tendinitis has gone! That must be a big relief
Big G-No more marathons planned until April,but I admit I've been having a sneaky look to see whether to do another this year,will wait and see.
Shades - Thanks, it's her target race for the year and will be the longest distance she has run since London marathon in 2016. I'll obviously be running too, but depending on how I feel after the marathon I might just take it easy with no time in mind.
5 mile recovery this morning.
I don't know if there are less ballot places, I would guess that every year there are more folk in the ballot, I think I saw a figure somewhere that this year was 386K in the ballot and I'm sure it wasn't that long ago that figures of 120K used to be mentioned. I think they like to say how many enter the ballot, I'm sure somewhere there are stats of how many places are available, not sure where though.
RK must hero worship his cousin then, he needs to run his races to suit him and so he enjoys them, I'll never forget how genuinely miserable he was at Plym Trail.
Glad to hear the legs feel good, that's what a good race and a PB does for recovery, just shows how important the brain and our mood is.
I might go and look for your photos now
SK - I'd be more interested in the cash than the cabbages too
Ian - I've just been reading shoe reviews on the Guide 10 this week and some made me doubt buying them, I can't get any Guide 9's in my size now. But in the end I've decided I will buy the 10's next but I am going to go up half a size, quite a few say they're a little smaller than the 9's and the 9's don't have plenty of room for me plus with the elastic laces I should still be able to get a good fit.
Jelly - re Trotter with London place, she will need a lot of moral support, I'm sure you and Big G can help her. She was in my running group years ago , was never keen on racing but she's come back to running now and I know she did GNR a couple of years ago and New Forest half last year. Hopefully there might be another marathon virgin in the club training for their first marathon too at the same time.
Jelly - yes, you're right. I expect they take total number of places, deduct elite, GFA, deferrals from previous year, the charity places and what's left is up for ballot.
Before the entry system went online if you were unsuccessful 5 times you got a place the following year. Now there are too many ballot entrants to be able to do that.
"Q. How is the ballot drawn?
A. It is a totally random ballot with no weighting - just like the draw for the National Lottery."
Long run planned for tomorrow and i'm going to see how i get on.
Bronze: Go out for a run
Silver: 15 miles
Gold: 18 miles
Only way I can seem to distract myself is by gaming or watching TV. I know it's likely nothing but, eh. Can't help thinking because if turns out to be not nothing, I'm more or less on my own. Single, no close relatives, a few friends who I don't see more than a couple of times a year. I'm an introvert so I've always been OK with this, but it's not so much fun when you're in the poop. I'm visiting my closest friend in Manchester next week but really I was going up to cheer him up as he has a lot of bad stuff going on right now too.
I'd feel a hell of a lot better if I could go out for a stress-relieving run, but that's not an option right now.
Oh, and I didn't get into VLM either. Wasn't expecting to, so not fussed, honestly. Got my places in Manchester and Liverpool booked if I'm recovered by then, which I hope to be.
I had a dreadful virus a couple of months back which knocked the crap out of me, couldn't run for 4 weeks, I felt a lump in front of my ear and instantly self diagnosed every bad outcome known to man, im a big time neurotic, I saw the doc, or duty nurse I think it was, she said sometimes they stay up and not to be concerned unless I began to feel unwell again. If I think about it too much I still get concerned in case she got it wrong, there's the neurotic coming out to play!
Running is one of the few things that shuts up the negative innner self talk in my potty head!
Hopefully you get some good news on Thursday.
Hi Jugula
Big G - Glad to hear you've bounced back from both marathon and hangover!
Shades/SK - Yes it is wonderful that the tendonitis has finally gone.. I've had it since December 2015! Unfortunately I've no idea what definitely made it go, after running/not running nothing seemed to make much difference but since this summer it seems to have just faded away. Maybe it was changing shoes that helped, I've been using my Hokas for most runs and, looking back, that seems to have been around the time that things seemed to start getting better. Just hope it doesn't come back now I've written that!
Shades - I avoid shorter races as I'm pants at them. It takes me at least 10k to warm up. I think I'll have to try the running up a hill option at some point.
Emmy - Love the bronze goal
Louey - I've got fab hand lights which the lovely Emmy sourced for me some time ago. I do nearly all my running in the pitch dark with no street lights and these lights are the best thing ever.
No chance of me winning any novelty prizes with the form I've got at the moment! I think we'll just have to count on SK to bring us back a thread cabbage this weekend.
I was supposed to do a split recovery run today.. 10k in the morning and 6k in the evening. Well there was no way that was going to happen so I did it all in one go this morning. Worst run ever, no energy, legs like bits of wood. Only plus point was that I heard a stag calling. Can't remember the proper verb for that.
Anyway, to motivate myself I've entered Cognac half marathon on the 11th November, 2 weeks before marathon. Wasn't going to as it's quite pricey but plan says 10-21k race so I've gone and done it. Hopefully will be a better show than the last HM I did.
I did yoga yesterday and struggled more than usual, but that's to be expected (especially due to the crap sleep that had me giving up and having a bath at 4am). Tuesdays is a Bikram only day and I'm not doing Bikram right now as it's too back/hamstring intensive. There's an evening flow class tomorrow so I might do that, and then the 6:30am one on Thursday. Still managed a few sun salutations on my own this morning. It's a good way to start the day.
With regards to lights - Alpkit do a very good and cheap head torch. Decathlon do a very bright chest light. In my few forays into the night I've been known to wear both at the same time.
after my slightly disappointing run on Sunday, I took a rest day yesterday and did my long run today. I think the days rest did me good as I was able to run 18.5 with no major issues. I even experienced what low carbers describe as a whoosh, a sudden burst of constant energy, and it was so good to feel that, even picked up the pace a bit but then my head took over and I slowed down again. Really pleased with how my training is going and how fit I am feeling.
Shades, I actually mentioned that race to RK. Me, him and Smokes were chatting (plus RK's partner was there), and I said "Mate, you went off like a bloody rocket, and was a mile ahead, but I finished way ahead of you. Initially I thought you were just having a blinder, but....". At this point Smokes piped up and said "Hayden (that's what he always calls me...), you didn't think that! You just thought "what a t***", didn't you?!". We all laughed and it was all in good jest, but I think RK needs to change his approach and I told him that, and from the weekend I think there is a small chance he may do. We'll see. In a way I think he does look up to his cousin actually, as it's his cousin that got him onto his own 100MC journey. He's like me though and can talk running all day and night, so I think we're going to go out for a few beers soon....to talk about running
It was really good actually as RK had lost his 2008 DMV medal. Smokes offered him his, but he had no idea where it was so before Munich he went through all his medals/trophies etc....he laid them all out and they covered his living room floor, he's got so many (not just marathons, but cross country, all sorts of stuff). Smokes said he actually quite enjoyed going through all the boxes as it brought back some memories. Of course DMV 2008 was in the in the last box he opened, but he did give it to RK which was nice.
Louey - come back to the suburbs, no need for head torches here! (I'm just jealous of your new, scenic running routes).
8 mile run with club last night. For some reason, someone decided to up the pace and whilst half the group dropped back, the competitive side of me made me try and keep up. The guy who'd led, then dropped out at 5 miles to go home, so we then slowed down! Weirdly though, my average HR was the same as it is usually on this run when I go at least 30 secs slower per mile. But I definitely wasn't able to chat as much as I can usually.
Achey glutes since fitness training on Monday. I think I'll have a rest day today.
Cal - 6:30 am is very early for yoga, but I suppose if you are having baths at 4am, it's not so bad!