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SG - considering racing the 5k and not doing be vets relay. that relay isn't that prestigious as a lot of the fast vets run the normal 12 stage. I would sack the relay and focus on the 5k. or tell your team you will be on tired legs for the relay.
matt - great session. one of those you get on the groove and just keep turning them out. I remember doing a 20*400 once in a big group taking turns leading. was a good session
Simon Coombes 2 said:
Yeah will have to keep my eye on you soon SG Upton Court Park - is that where they have held Chiltern league xc races? If so, they were right up my street..XC races for road runners. Usually you parked at TVH and walked over the M4 to get there.I'm back on the no crisps, sweets or cake again like I was pre xmas. Chocolate OK, usually a bit of dark choc in the evening. I substitute crisps for popcorn.
Yeah will have to keep my eye on you soon SG
Upton Court Park - is that where they have held Chiltern league xc races? If so, they were right up my street..XC races for road runners. Usually you parked at TVH and walked over the M4 to get there.
I'm back on the no crisps, sweets or cake again like I was pre xmas. Chocolate OK, usually a bit of dark choc in the evening. I substitute crisps for popcorn.
Ric - No Booze? Never going to happen as you would expect!
ML84 - Monster session, decent times too. Bus - I can leave cake, although developed big sugar addiction over xmas, hard to drop!
Surrey League xc tomorrow at Coulsdon, right at the bottom of London at 'Happy Valley'. I can tell you it's not when you're coming up the valley side for the 2nd time...
Anyone else getting a Marie Curie advert on their screens all the time? Pissing me right off.
Found a flock of these things when out. I think only Dachs would be the only other threadster to know what they are.
I was thinking Bullfinch, but a quick google, showed that's not that similar at all
Phil, you're not going into your f''kbook account by accident again are you?
Bus, i'd forgotten the DNF, strangely, as that's not that long ago, from how long we've been giving it some on this thread!
A sensible decision that day! If I'd dropped out of the Wyc half when I realised it wasn't going well, instead of struggling it out stubbornly, i'd very likely have not spent a year plus treading water!
I suppose the earliest sign was mile 2 coming out slower than mile 1....despite mile 1 having most of the stonking steep hill in!
Right, it was the next TVXC event today, 5.8miles or so at a park in Dachs' neck of the woods. Not the lightning fast parkrun venue....ok i'll stop teasing Dachs with that one now .
Parking at some school, a 5min walk round the corner brought into a view what looked like what you northern chaps would take as a "proper" XC course, and not the MT versions we usually have in these events.
We're talking very boggy mud for a lot of it, not many steep hills, but a lot of short ups and downs. There was also a little woody section, but basically 2 big laps and 1 shorter lap.
Had no idea which way round in fairness.
A short warmup, about 1 1/4miles, and these seem to work ok these days, and to the start. Minute's silence for Dachs' clubmate, and OFF....
Went off HARD today, stormed through some muddy boggy stuff, and thought, i'll slow down later if needs be.
The new Innov8 225s were tied up super tight, so I felt a lot more confident this time, even if lime green shoes and white socks quickly was looking a ridiculous idea.
Was expecting 5th dasher to be my glass ceiling today, as our front 4 were out, and in storming form from the Cliveden XC. However, I had Mr Sikora, Mark FS from Sandhurst and Alistair at Wargave as old school rivals as well. A great stacked field of all sorts of people.
The race settled, and i'm watching a couple of the Dasher boys Chris and Rob B from a short distance behind, and Alistair has come by. Usual experience with him is i'll set off hard, he'll come by mid way, and we'll have a right old close one with me stealing it at the end, OR he'll just finish a fair way ahead. With an element of 5k more usually me winning, offroad/long him.
But who knows, I thought, just keep working.
The muddy stretches were so wide, you struggled to find the line of least mess at times, although runners would run 20metres wide to try and fine dryer land!
The woods offered a little bit of respite, as the mud tended to stop there, and some twisty turns came in. Then it was back into the fields.
Near the end of lap 1, Chrrisy B was coming back a little, turned and spotted and said hello to me. It was a bit more respectful than Crispy's infamous "f'cks sake" when spotting me, and realising he must be underpar
Tried to chivvy Chris with an appetising little downward non muddy burn, as per chivvying of Mr Lee at Handy Cross, but he was a bit underpar, and I presumed he'd be back level later, as he's a fan of taking little breaks mid race.
Continued tracking Alistair and Rob B from my boys, and through the "finish line" for the 1st of 3 times to loads of cheers. This stretch was already pretty darn filthy, so I dreaded to think of what it'd be like in another 20mins or so.
Second lap felt better on the mind for some reason. Still kept honest knowing there was a cavalry charge behind, but confident to keep cracking on. Through the funnel again, having just nipped ahead of a Windle chap, who are leading the series so far.
Then gradually it started happening, past Alistair, and "feeling" that was him behind for the day, and then level with Rob B, who wasn't far behind Samson at Cliveden.
Suggested a little step up in effort for us to work as a pair, but ended up carrying on and ahead.
Into the woods, checking the watch, not quite sure when the turn off for the 3rd lap finish would be, as I'd not started my watch until a fair chunk in!
Then I noticed Graham not far in front. What the! Just carry on as you are I think.
Emerge out the woods up a bank, we're almost home, hang on, i'm going past Graham, what's this. 5 years on from Tadley and being 2-3secs behind him being my best ever race, i'm ahead of him for the first time ever, perhaps only temporarily? And we'll find out what he's done the day before later...
But..it's the final run in, it's a glorious down to the finish isn't it. BEAUTY!
STORM down it, no-one's having me here, there's Mr Winning just ahead (posts on here very occasionally, super fast geezer, 2.38 marathoner?). Rob F absolutely insists I obliterate myself to take 1 more point, and just manage to get ahead, not slip over in the gloop and over the line for 8th! Happy with 3rd home for the club too, as I was thinking 5th was my top end today, as we had our best team out (bar Rob F, who has done a bit of a calf job again unfortunately)
With certainty, that's my best ever XC performance.
I've come 3rd and 5th and top 10s before, but i'm certain the field is more stacked now.
It's essential I point out Graham had raced yesterday, and Mr Winning had apparently done a 20mile run at 6.38 average (someone must have strava stalked that!) yesterday, and Chrissie B may still be a little coldy or whatever, but you race as you find it don't you.
Put on facebook it felt like a bit of a mental breakthrough, to go off hard, maintain it, and work up to the finish. After a "Loosener" at Windsor, and a "set off steady and dribble up the hills" at Handy Cross, this felt good.
It's feeling really good again, and in a week, of Monday track, Tuesday tempo reps, and 15mile Thursday.
Good to see PeteM of course, even if I had to slightly anxiously disappear, noticing the time and knowing what I had to do pre-race
Not sure of the exact distance it turned out to be, as I ended up with 5.47miles in 34;05, which is 6.14 pace.
I'll be interested to see the finishing time, and estimate the missing distance, could have been anywhere from 0.15m to 0.3m.
Pete what reading did you get on distance?
Nice one Pete, sorry not to find you after, I was begging cool downs off people, did 2 separate ones
Results are out already. 34:37 my final time, so 32 secs until I got my watch going, so that must be the shorter side of my distance range, perhaps 0.15m, perhaps a 5.62miler?
Did you get a distance reading?
I was surprised at the joint 2nd. Reading were really undone by their ladies, as they had a strong men's outfit.
However, it doesn't change too much, as with 4x1, a 2nd or a 3rd would be wiped off as your weakest score.
It's hard to tell what's going on in the men's section as they don't do a current table, but i'd imagine we're probably joint 1st there?
It's so much about the course and mentality on these series races.
I beat one chap at Handy cross by 10seconds if that. Today it was over 3mins.
Yes, I lost that shoe which didn't help, but the mentality before both could barely have been different, and today's mentality is more like the glory days of this thread. Starting to feel a little "excited" about Wokingham now. At worst I should be able to tear apart the time at Wycombe 2015
Matt - that's one hell of a not flat out race. It's pretty clear if you really targeted something and got past your slight dislike of racing, plus this marathon current focus, you could match anyone on here on the road !
Pete, on the league table tab, they are only showing after 4 races. After 5 races, I believe the men's will show as equal.
You've had 1-2-1-2-3 and we've had 3-1-4-1-1
You lose today's 3rd, we lose the 4th, so that's 6-6
If we don't win the men's it's that Metros 3rd that has rucked us. It was a terrible piece of scheduling in fairness, October wasn't it? A month was it (?) before the next race, yet we still end up with 3 races over 4 weeks at this end! Bonkers.
Overall, we'd need a big performance in the last 2 and you guys to be underpar.
Such a shame on our women's side that Jill hasn't done any. She's surely the fastest women from any of the clubs, so is a real game changer when around!
apologies on the time, I do remember thinking 1.17 is blimming tasty for half (of 2.34!), so must have mixed the 8 in with something else I was thinking of!
Thank your wife for me But feel free to point out all your respective times versus mine!
It'd be interesting to compare times running past the crowd each of the 3 laps, with general pace over the whole course! That's why I couldn't do London, as there aren't as many crowd free parts to resume normal pace