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Just the opposite for myself,with my recent training I thought 4 was a decent target,decides to run the first few miles at what felt an easy pace,didn't take any notice of the time until 4 and realised even though it felt very easy it was fast,then thought let's go with the flow and wait for the inevitable collapse. It did come but not until very late,got to 18 before my first bout of cramp and expected it early today.had to walk a couple of inclines near the end as I had nothing left and walked a bit.finished in 3:39:07,only 8 mins behind my pb so really really happy with the day.
Ian - that's brilliant, well done. Keep up with those strength exercises, you're definitely dealing with the cramps better and they are having less effect on you.
Any news on Cal? I don't think she uses her phone to post on here so we'll have to wait until she gets home.
Cal has finished safe and sound,think she'll be happy but will wait for her.
Good news about Cal, will wait for her update
For this one I had Munich in mind where I felt great in the second half. I had hoped to replicate that but as I say, it didn't happen.
Big G - sorry you didn’t have a good race today, still not a bad time though.I guess when you’re doing multiple marathons, there will be good and bad ones and the bad ones will help you to enjoy the good ones more!
Glad you had a good race, Ian, and a great time. Hope to hear from Cal soon.
Steve - very impressive pacing at Guernsey and those pictures look really scenic. You are a true ultra runner now!
MF - glad the post marathon recovery has gone well. Those university places are all fab cities and great places to visit for you, too! I hope the bac exams go well.
Not much to report here. A mediocre parkrun yesterday and an OK 12 miles today. I survived Thursday’s track session which was quite tough - they seemed to have gone up a gear in the months I haven’t gone. A friend ran the entire Jubilee line this morning - all 38 miles of it and all on his own!
Big_G - don’t be too hard on yourself 4:08 is still a pretty good time.
Ian - well done to you too, nothing worse than cramping with 1/4 the race still to go so fantastic effort considering that.
Shades - I will be running on the 9th it’s one of Rik's ones “the Explorer” marathon. When the event opened it sold out in a matter of minutes and I never got a chance to enter. A couple of days ago Rik said that the medal suppliers had supplied 10 extra medals and that he would do a ballot for those places. Naturally I put my name in the hat, and when the draw was done, I was gutted I didn’t get a place, so I thought “oh well, next year..I switched my phone on this morning and I had a message from Rik saying that someone couldn’t do it so would I like their place..HELL YES... so I paid the slightly higher price of £52 ( cause the medal is something special)..
so my events list looks such...
26 May “pop up” ultra ( Phoenix)
27 May “mega challenge” ultra. (SVN)
3 June “dambusters” ultra. (SVN)
9 June. “Explorer” marathon. (Phoenix)
10 June “Thames potter” ultra (Phoenix)
29 July “outlaw” marathon
Big G-Still a decent time,on not the easiest of courses mate.The guy who won your parkrun also won the marathon today,Adam was 2nd and a guy from my club 3rd.
Just realised I've burnt the top of my back quite bad,usually wear a t-shirt so well suncreamed up but forgot I was wearing a vest today so those areas are pretty sore.
Achilles feel ok at the minute,no problems walking just when I touch it.
Official time is 4:22:22 which is better than I expected under the circumstances. First half went well enough but I knew from last year that I'd likely slow down. I tried to stay with the 4:15 pacer but the hills and warmer weather took it out of me and I started dying on my arse in Sefton Park. It was a less spectacular collapse than last year, though - I forced myself not to walk so although there were a few easy-pace miles in there, I kept going and got to the finish only four minutes slower than Manchester. This is a 15 minute improvement over my time here last year, so I'm pretty happy with that. In fact, I'm happy I got around without walking, given I've not run more than 12 miles since Manchester. The mitochondria are still working, it seems.
Big G, I did keep an eye out for you but there were so many people milling about. Sorry you didn't get the time you wanted, but hey we got a cool medal that spins!
Ian, that's a phenomenal run - I'm very happy for you! How did he tendons cope with the hills?
Iain - blimey, do you all get one like that?
The uphill sections were fine,it's the downhill I struggle with,means I can't kick on as much as I'd like.
One negative from me is that I have discovered a new chafe-zone - my inner knees! I only noticed when I ran through a hosepipe and the water stung the hell out of my legs. I Vaselined the usual places but that was one I never even considered. Stupid fat, knock knees.
Official marathon results are up - I was 25th in age group, 280/1135 ladies and 1371 overall, which puts me in the first half. I guess a lot of people struggled with the warmth today (I didn't find it too bad, but I would have been able to go faster if it was cooler, obviously). I did pass a hell of a lot of walkers in the last few miles.
I was 347th which has really surprised me.There were a lot of walkers by me also,the last 4 miles along the front were very tough with no wind or shade.
SK - no, not on antibiotics. I saw the pharmacist and he said usually tonsillitis is viral not bacterial so thankfully no antibiotics. Pharmacist said it will run its course, 7 to 10 days. I try and avoid antibiotics anyway. Luckily as I'm older my tonsils are not the size they used to be so it's not as painful as if I was a teenager or young adult. I have eaten all the frozen grapes I had, they really helped.
Iain - thanks, I've listed all your races. Sorry but that medal is gross
Ian - good news the achilles isn't too bad, the sun burn will ease, but lesson learned, ouch .
When you're back to full training on your hills, we need to work on your downhill running next.
Cal - that's a brilliant run, you should be very pleased with that. Warmer weather, not such a flat course and of course having shingles shows that you're in great shape. I think you can work hard and really target Chester with that goal time.
Official result for your list was 4:07:55.
Had a great afternoon and evening with the WAY lot. Ended up getting a ticket to go and see a live band, which was a good way to finish the weekend.
The downhill were tough because if the angle I'm moving my Achilles in,no need to add more hills in
Big G-From a business sense I can see the half being more important to them,nearly 9k in that and late entry fee was 44,personally I had no issues with anything,I agree the full could start first,I watched the half runners go off and they went at 9.10 and with so many corals there was no way we were starting at 10.
Went to watch the Night of the 10,000 PBs again on Saturday. Great racing (three British men got <28 mins), with the 1st British man being a 19 year old triathlete! Max’s PE teacher won an earlier race in a PB of 31:04, but was frustrated not to go sub 31! Only medals for the top 3 in the A race though. Got a free noisy bell (which will be useful when marshalling at parkrun) plus some free Strava socks.
£16 for a late entry into a one mile children's race
Re your marathon times, I don't think anyone can predict how they are going to feel on any one day. Maybe a bit more of that 'brain training' for when you are targeting a particular event?
I think your difficult run at GW was just due to the headwind, affects a lot of runners like that. If you'd been wearing an HRM on that day you'd have seen how much effort is required to run when it's windy.
I have to be realistic and it's unlikely I'll make the start line. At the moment I doubt I'll be OK to do Dorchester next weekend. I can transfer my DD place, there's nobody on the list if you want it?
When your achilles is fully recovered I'm not suggesting more uphills but more downhill running, very tough on the legs so you have to be cautious.
SK - that's good for the future of British distance running with 3 guys sub 28 min. I'm not surprised one is a triathlete, Alistair Brownlee did have 10km times that could have qualified him to run for the UK, I think he's moving onto half and full Ironman now.
Impressive running from that PE teacher.
If I was doing Liverpool I'd stay in a Travelodge on the M6, but it's a pig of a drive anyway. It's not on my list, would rather do Worcester or if I didn't mind a longer drive Windermere, which is a lovely race.
I think the adrenaline/stress of not being sure if you're going the right way in a race would really affect projected race time and enjoyment too of course. Which might explain why distance races are often won by the previous year's winner, they know the course and are confident about the route. But city marathons are often harder to follow route wise and subject to minor changes.
I think Rock n Roll do Lisbon marathon, that is on my 'to do' list.
Good that the WAY weekend went well and all enjoyed it.
Big G-That coukd explain why he had a 2 min lead at halfway then ended 3 mins behind as that's a lot to lose at that level.
It would have been very easy to cheat yesterday if you're that way inclined.
Lots to catch up on, sorry if I miss anyone. Just trying to read back through the posts.
I've been absence the last week or so as me and my wife got a offer accepted on our first house! So been very busy getting paperwork sorted and trying to keep my training up.
I had a great first trail race last Saturday. 14 miles with around 2000ft of elevation. Very different from what I am used to but I absolutely loved it, finished in around 2hrs 27min.
Shades - sorry to hear you are unwell. My wife gets tonsillitis quite regularly, it can get nasty so keep yourself rested and hydrated until you are 100%. Otherwise it can come back with a vengeance!
Big_G - great effort for seeing a tough race through. I would be chuffed with that time, but I know its frustrating when you know you can do better.
Ian5 - well done, Cramps are frustrating, I really hope to conquer them one day too!
Cal - Well done! So glad to see you raced and that you even beat last years time. 25th in category! You must be pleased with that. That is good sign
Steve - Saw your Ultra on Strava. Mightly impressive. Hats off to you sir
Hope everyone else is ok
Big G- still a good time to get I'm sure you'll figure it out and be firing on all cylinders at your next event.
Ian- I feel your pain in regards the leg cramps hopefully one day both of us will finish a race cramp free. Still an excellent time considering the cramp issues and lack of training due to injuries.
Cal- improving by 15mins over last year well done great effort. Again taking into account your shin splints etc that's a great time you got. I know what you mean with chaffing just when you think you have it all covered it appears somewhere you wouldn't even think of.
Shades- hopefully your tonsillitis clears up quickly, it's something I've never had. It's a shame you will miss DD good though you can transfer.
10 mile today with final 3 miles at mp felt really good during the run although it was quite warm. Not used to running in the heat I don't think my body knows what's going on.
Cal - Great result from you too. Can't believe you were fighting off shingles only a week or so ago.. really well done. Chester here we come!
Ian - Fab result in spite of the dreaded cramps! You must have been counting down those last miles.. well done for hanging on and coming through with a great time.
SK - I'm not even going to ask what your mediocre park run time was!
Shades - That's bad news about the tonsilitis.. and especially that it's going to scupper your DD plans. At least you managed to do Connemara this year. I thought that tonsilitis was a children's illness, I'm not sure why. An excuse for eating loads of ice cream maybe..or is that just when you've had your tonsils out..? I know nothing
Decent running from me over this weekend. Just forest running with the dogs but I enjoyed it.
Weather is beautiful here at the moment. Unfortunately the pollen levels are sky high so I can't really appreciate it as have swollen eyes and a soggy tissue permanently attached to my nose. Should only last another week or so though.