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Over 60's training (Part 2)
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It has been a long time since you flew our particular nest
How are you? I caught up with Ceal in London a little while back, photo evidence a couple of pages back, and you, of course, cropped up in a review of old forumites between us.
Mick
good to see you are pursuing the higher abstract values of artistic endeavour and I hope your niggle clears up quickly.
My knee has settled down a bit and I walked much of a very pleasant Hash last night through bluebell strewn woods with dappled sunlight streaming in through the fresh green leaves and long distant views over the Dales - very bucolic.
Managed to work up a bit of a thirst which was just as well as the beer afterwards was excellent
what's your running background?
TS - good news re knee - the hash does sound idyllic - and beer sounds tempting - as it's a lovely sunny evening, I might just nip out to the shop . . . ; no, I didn't run in Cornwall, but this meant my legs were nice and fresh yesterday, and I bagged 13.5, followed by stretching. Today did some (light) strength work, then a very slow 6, with legs now (much) less fresh !
Took the plunge and entered a 10K today, as well
Mick, I hope your niggle is short-lived . . .
Dave
I haven't posted as I haven't had anything to say really. I haven't really tried out my knee again - I've been mainly dog-walking, getting covered in mud! Yes, start of our winter season. I've been watching some x-country as g nephew is taking part.
Did try to do a Parkrun last Saturday but it was cancelled - a tree over the path, so at least I tried. Maybe I'll try a run this Saturday. All I can think is it is all to do with aging and muscle decline! Bit depressing eh! But like Torque Steer I am happy as long as I can get out - even if it is for a walk.
Keep up the running those that still can!
NZC,walking and getting out is good even if it is a bit muddy.Your knee would have took quiet a pounding in your recent marathon hopefully it will ease a bit for you.
Dave,straight back into decent mileage,is the 10k soon.
Mick,hope the niggle goes soon.
TS,i always want to have a beer after your hash post.Tonight i have a 10k summer series race and tomorrow i am doing LFOTM if the body holds up.Been up and down steps the last two days doing some sparky work,so i have my disclaimer ready.
i think it will take you quite a while to get over your marathon - both physically and mentally. It was very tough on you given the lack of preparation.
At least you thought of doing a parkrun - more than I do at the moment!!
We are just getting into full summer - nice dry, warm sunny days - long may it continue
Dave
well you jumped right back in the mileage again.
What race have you entered?
Ray
how did the 10K go? was it a warm night for it.
Mention of LFOTM - I have aranged to see Ceal on Friday 27th July at Hyde Park. All welcome if you can make it - I suspect we will not be running
Dave/Ray
nice to see I can still inspire you to something - even if it is only drinking beer!!
The one in question on Tuesday evening was a Bad Co. beer called Pale Aura - lovely citrusy notes of grapefruit/orange and a touch of sweetness as well - very refreshing indeed on a summers evening.
It may have done my knee some good so I shall have to go back for some more...............
Tonight was slightly warm but ideal conditions really and a flatish course so no complaints or excuses.As always I set off to fast 7:09/7:19/7:26 the first three miles I knew I wouldn't hold that pace.The next three were 7:36/7:52/7:49and the 0.25 was 7:05 pace for a total time of 46:58.Tomorrow is the 5k at Hyde park it's been a long time since I run it.The July date is good for me and all being well I will run it.
well done - nothing wrong with those times and you must have clocked a sub 22 min for the first 5K as well so you were motoring along.
you may not be quiet as sharp today - but you will have a good one if you go off at the same pace!!
I have no intention of running in a 5K where even a 30 min time would be beyond me but we will give you a shout if you run it
TS - rain here too this morning - but pleased I was disciplined enough to get out at 7:40 for 5.5 miles, with a few "strideouts" in the last couple of miles.
Dave
15 with my daughter this morning (wouldn't have done 13.5 on Tue, had I known in advance about this)
off 4 runs, with tomorrow remaining.
Dave
Birch - plenty of miles over 4 runs.
Torque Steer - I did Cornwall Park 5km on Saturday morning - hoping to break 30 mins, and hoping to run all the way!
I got the tune of "Uptown Girl" in my head and when I wasn't singing that to myself, I was telling myself to "run".
Not easy when walking, chatting and drinking coffee is all I seem to do on my outings these days.
It was cool at the start and then the sun came out, pretty muddy under foot in some places - managed 28.58 age-grade 73.25%
Dog walked yesterday - knee still has niggle but seems no worse for the run.
do your parents know you are on the internet?
Ray
a very good back up to the 10K as Hyde park is a twisty, undulating course - well done
dave
it must be good to have someone to drag you out for a 15 miler
NZC
you made it!! 28;58 might be my target for a comeback - but on a flat, even course
We have two youngest g'kids staying - I tried tiring them out with multiple sprint intervals in the garden - it worked but on the wrong person!!
ok I will play one more round -
average mortality age is now 85.
so from 60 onwards that is 1 year = 365 x 24 hours/day x 60 min = 525,600 min/annum
525,600 x 25 = 13,140,000 min of HR activity
If the average HR is 72bpm = 13,140,000 x 72 = 946,080,000 beat before one pegs it
however if one is a trained athlete like the folk on here then av HR is 42 bpm =13,140,000 x 42 = 551,880,000 beats in the same period
Allowing for 60 min training/day = 110 beats increase x 60 x 365 x 25 = 60, 225,000
So a trained over 60 athlete will have 551,880,000 + 60,225,000 = 612,105,000 beats - a decrease of 334 million over a sedentary person over the same period as well as having better bone density, lower blood pressure, less weight and lower stress.
Live long and prosper
Mick, someone else with a foot issue. I'm sure your arch problem will resolve itself though with a bit of rest and a regime of stretching exercises if necessary. I'd like to see more of your art work. I remember being most impressed with what you've posted before, however modestly you've played down your efforts.
TS, good that your knee is a bit better. Your Hash did sound very enjoyable. Bluebell woods are a very British thing I think and great to enjoy walking or running through.
Dave, Cornwall's a lovely place for a holiday. I bet you enjoyed it down there. Well done for entering the 10K and I hope it goes well for you.
Christine, That 73% in your parkrun is very good considering how little you've been running. Impressive as always from you. We've been watching a NZ/Oz series called 800 Words about an Australian man who moves to NZ with his children after his wife dies. A superior soap really but enjoyable and great scenery to admire. Don't know if you've come across it?
Ray, remember you were a bit disappointed last year with some of your summer 10K times but you must be satisfied with the 46:58. Backed up nicely by the 22:39 in Hyde Park. Good running.
Something I hadn't done for at least 15 years was to go on a walk in the Lakes, going up onto the real high fells. To be honest I was starting to wonder if I still had it in me, at least to do it without getting completely exhausted. So I was very pleased to get to the top of High Street from Haweswater with a running friend a couple of weeks ago. I really enjoyed it.
Graham - good to hear from you, and that you are running your loop & cycling regularly. Impressive hiking, too . . .
TS - yes, it is good to have my daughter's company on the longer runs occasionally. This teatime I met her at the track (she drove there, and completed 12 x 400m with a mile jog & strides/drills either side) .... I ran there and back and bagged 5 x 800m within an 11 mile run all told. first track session for some time - didn't time the 800's, ran them to perceived effort, and enjoyed the feeling of running fast again (even though, unlike my daughter, I wasn't)
Dave
Graham - haven't seen 800 words - it's usually NZers going to Aussie - must have a look out for it.
I was thinking about Katherine Mansfield's short story "Miss Brill" when that boy was telling us to give it away! Anyone read that story? Very sad.
It's a beautiful sunny day here although cold - have been dog walking again.
Dave,excellent batch of training from you and your daughter.Will you make the track a regular thing or just occassionally?
Track was 15x 300m broke into 3sets of 5 with 100m recoveries and 500m recovery between sets.Pace for reps was 6:23-6:33-6:27-6:28-6:16-6:24-6:19-6:16-6:15-6:20-6-22-6:09-6:10-6:26-6:15
I think the track will be an occasional visit (its £4.65 a session), and I have parks available, with miles and half miles on the paths. Must say, though , I prefer the track.
rest day on Wed, after the session, then 6 yesterday aft'n & 6 this morn.
Dave
sadistic - who devised that session
you actually got quicker towards the end - was it just to end the torture?
Dave
perceived effort = not enough
Nice to get on a track again - it does feel very different doesn't it? Blimey £4.65 a session is a lot of money - I would be running a marathon to get my worth out of the trip. In the old days at Gateshead Stadium a lunchtime session was free - and that included changing rooms and a shower!!!
Graham
well done a return to the high country. You must have had some good weather for it as well which is always a bonus in the Lakes.
Not seen the series you have been watching but I did watch a film called The Hunter on BBC iplayer - set in Tasmania. Spectacular background scenery and a strangely gripping story.
NZC
onset of winter - brrr! We have just had the hottest sunniest May on record - and now flaming June has started with rain.
Well I forced myself to go to the Hash on Tuesday, after a long day in London, from a newish craft ale pub so I had to try it out didn't I?
I jogged the 1.25 miles there and then 4.6 miles which was probably/definitely too much for my knee but I salved the pain with some excellent Californian Sun IPA until the pain disappeared
Contented myself with easy short runs for the rest of the week - and I do mean short!!
5 miles fartlek today - pretty humid, so "perceived effort" still felt like "effort" - especially the last two 400m hills . . .
Dave
Dave,luckily the track is in with our membership so not to bad.Fartlek over 5miles is a pretty good effort especially with hills thrown in.
Managed 11miles today around midday and as Dave said it was pretty humid.Not sure if I will do anything tomorrow.
8am start with my daughter for 10 miles - humidity again, added to tired legs for both of us (my fartlek and N blasted a parkrun) meant a weary plod, which neither of us particularly enjoyed. Still, job done, and 44 for the week.
hope everyone else is doing a bit.
Dave
Birch - 44 miles for the week - you're doing it.
Torque Steer - good to have the Hash to get out there and enjoy all on offering.
I did Cornwall Park run again - 28.35 - agegrade 74.23%.
Need to be able to do some running during the week to improve on that. My knee is still sore so dog-walking continues. Must get my bike set up to do some stationery cycling to see if that if will help it.
Birch - 44 miles for the week - you're doing it.
Torque Steer - good to have the Hash to get out there and enjoy all on offering.
I did Cornwall Park run again - 28.35 - agegrade 74.23%.
Need to be able to do some running during the week to improve on that. My knee is still sore so dog-walking continues. Must get my bike set up to do some stationery cycling to see if that if will help it.