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Not sure I can be arsed tbh - could just go for an easy run instead and get to drink beer sooner.......
I'd recommend the Bucket of Blood Inn at Phillack, not far from the Hayle campsites!
If you've enough time, and the consent of the family, I'd also recommend a coastal run out from St Ives towards Zennor and back, beautiful terrain!
Did you go and do it Bus? One the one hand, it's so close. On the other hand, a 10k is a bit more substantial than the 5k and down easy to smash off stuff.
One last Murder Mile related post.
This is the video from 2016. The breathing of the guy filming it, and the way people go from a slow jog to absolutely crawling helps put it into perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isGQ64kxcyg
Think 2017 was filmed from the back, so didn't get on that one, and it wasn't as clear a view, and doubt this year's was filmed. Awaiting the pics tho
Just a ticking over Monday - Wed for me, 6&4 each day to tick over the mileage.
5x1km Pairs relay Thur which'll be fun, trip to Manchester/Yorkshire Fri/Sat combo, then make it up for a 55-60ish mile week .
Then we'll decide what's left of the summer flurry of races, whether it be 1 or 2 more 5ks, before getting back into a proper flow of training.
I'm glad I did though. It was actually one of the toughest 10k races ive ever done - I'll post a proper job of a report tomorrow...
No worries Matt - it was a tall order! I'm intending trun to Zennor next week when we are staying in StIves. I walked that section of the SWCP many years ago with amassive rucsac on and remember it as wild and spectacular with lots of steep hills!
Got there about 6.30pm for the 7pm start which is pretty good really with the London traffic having only left Sunningdale about 5.15pm. Recognised a Woking ac vet who is now v65 but has beaten me the last few times we have met (he is no. 2 v65 in the country mind
So, last night's race; only found out about it in a cafe at lunchtime and my legs were still feeling heavy from Sunday's exertions, which partly explained my reticence, particularly as I had already done a 4M walk and spent a couple of hours body-boarding. Anyway, having eventually decided to do it, my warm up involved jogging oveer some undulating dunes and getting misplaced on the way to the race HQ at the Hayle surf and life saving club - hence the late start! Although a low key affair, they had run out of offical numbers when I registered so I had to make do with a partly hand written job, with 211 suggesting at least that mfy runners. After a quick drink and loo stop I went down to the start, which was literally a line in the sand! After a few quick strides and multiple retying of shoe laces, I lined myself up second row back, just behimd the hopeful locals in footbal shorts....
Pre race briefing, whihc included stuff about adders, drowning and falling off cliffs and we were off. Stretching out ahead were the first 3 miles along the beach, loosley marked out with marshals, but a general instruction to try and find your own line. Of we went and my aim was to just try and go sub 7 (sub 9 on this beach the day before was a struggle!). The hrst mile was a game of trying to find firm sand, but it ticked off ok in about 6.50. I was holding my own and starting to pas the hopeful locals. Mile 2 became a bit of a grind, with the end of the beach section still on the far horizon and not getting any closer! Found a reasonably firm line, and tried to enjoy the crashing waves and beautiful views toward Godrevy lighthouse. By mile 3 I was around 10th place, with an obvious v50 not far in front.
We then turned inland and up steps over rocks, trying to avoid the swinging surfboards of curious surfers turning toward us! At the top of the steps I caught v50 guy. We tht ran together acros a hard packed, undulating trail thag sas a blessed relief from the endless sinking treacle of the beach. Around 3.5 I overtook, by taking a firmer line round the edge of a dune, but only for him to cog back and put some distance between us. By this point, I was starting to suffer fd by mile 4 a flurry of runners overtook, one by one, including the first lady (no, not Melania!). Oh well, I thought, just settle into a tempo and see what happens. Just about 4.5M we hit the crux of the route - a large sand dune called Dune mother on Strava. Suddenly I am catching all but lnd of those who took me and my hil strength, together with some dune practice this week meant I was running, while they were reduced to a walk! By the top, I had taken 4 scalps, but my heart and lungs feltvlike they would burst! Immediately, there was a steep drop on sand all the way back to the beach, but my vision of a Lawrence or Arabianesque descent was quashed by my lunch wanting to make a retirn visit! To my surprise, despite my shuffle down to the beach, no one came past.
I'd steeled myself mentally for this last stretch along the beach to the finish - another 1.3 miles of molasses. Desperate to keep my place , I dug deep and decided to run further out toward the sea, avoiding the churned up sand where the outbound runners had been, whilst those behind followed the racing line.
A concerned (and somewhat brave) marshal put her arm around me, but soon withdrew when the retching started again !
I went to tell the v50 guy what a bastard he was over a bit of a chin wag and a few cups of water. Turns out he is a local St Austell runner who, bizarrely, regularly holidays in High Wycombe!
They did a very quick presentation as it was getting quite cool with a strong breeze on the beach. I then shuffled up the cliff to HQ to get the results. 12th overall in 45.27. Happy enough with that, even if it is probably my slowest 10k!
As I was already on the cliff, I decide I would jog the 1.3 miles back along the coast path rather than the beach, to avoid the larg sand dune to get back to our apartment. Mistake! A couple of wrong turns and the undulating nature of the path meant I swapped 1 dug, for 4 small hills and 3 small dunes - managed around 11 min miling! Sill, back to the apartment where a hot-tub, cold beer and glorious sunset awaited!
All in all, a good dayand glad I did the race after all....
So had an interesting few days. Let's do bullet points (yes lots to tell..)
Any thoughts of a big race in the autumn for a potential thread trip?
Simon, that's a heck of a lot of travelling there! You've done well to get some decent running into the mixer.
Wales was the first time I've done a race after a stay over somewhere, so i will look for more options for that sort of thing going forward. Try and make doubles of some of the footy trips rather than a straight forward drive up and back for a single game.
Down to half a leg at the moment so resting for a few weeks.
Hope your missing leg and a half are back with you soon. Sounds very frustrating.
You're taking kms that are probably not accurate anyway and then you see a mile marker. It's headmess material.
Speedy recovery phil. Sounds a crock and a half. Can recommend an oesteo who will do more than the mythical back click to fix all!
Take the sub 30 5mile aim, 6.00 pace.
5mile is 8.07 km, meaning you need 3.72 per km... 3.43 km?
Much more awkward maths, and simply a bonkers way of thinking about it
On another bonkers thing, some guy just responded to a post i made on another thread... 5 1/2 years on!! I think the moment has passed.
What's ailing you Philip?
Pete - you won't be allowed to get away with that sort of foreign Johnny malarkey post Brexit you know! All races will be in miles! Oddly, last night's 10k was set out with mile markers!
Lol Bus; that would really throw me if a 10k race had mile markers!
Doing a half marathon by km is even sillier, as you have even more splits to bamboozle your brain with.
Keep it simple son.
Do those people train in km then Matt?
That seems an even stranger concept to me.
Oh I went and did a 21km run at 3.55 a km.
What?
ps Pete, are you at the big relays tomorrow?
Wool has lined up a fast partner, so they look to be the favourites, but hopefully me and Chris will have a good little runabout.
I do that yes SG; regular long run is about 13.5k in an hour which is around 4'30 pace. I had to translate that last week before I posted about my 'long' runs as I know most of you work in miles!
Surely k's are better for reps as most tend to be 400's, 800's etc.
Not at the relays as thought I'd be on hols but now not till next week. Shame as Datchet course is nicer and faster than ours.
You'll probably both cringe at this, but even if I'm doing km reps I'll have my watch at min/mi and think "ticking along at 5:45, great"
I wish there were some relay style events down this way, I really enjoy them!
Relays are quality. Good way of getting a race in but in a more informal team work way.
After tomorrow itll be 2xpairs 5x1km, the 4some upton court one, the club handicap 4 and the runnymede one. Ah yes the 3x1mile one too!
6 relays which isnt bad when we had to pull out of both the 12stage ones as well as not bothering with the masters relays!
If we do run I’ll be doing them Matt-style. Min/mile on the watch all the way for me. In a 5k / 10k I do the same and then manual lap at the markers. Twisted.
I'm able to do all the conversions from miles to Km's, on any distance you can come up with, without having to resort to Google.
I know a guy who can do this in his head.
I'm sticking to standards and those for me in running are minute miling. Not so sure about cycling. It seems a bit one way or the other at the moment.
Pete, you might disagree with SG on the units but you'll only garner support from newbies and other parkrun main-liners for Km's.
Distance running, road running is miles. It's minute miling. The fact you don't appreciate what a mile is makes me wonder if you aren't from this country.
Km's! a unit of distance that is downright un American if you ask me.
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regardless of using KM/Miles pace readings its the same pace on the tarmac. the only thing that differs is your own view point . if you train in KM's and race a 5k...surely you would race using km pace. you spend all training in KM paces so they are familiar so stick with what you know.
But bottom line it really doesnt matter
good couple of races above for pete and Bus. Must be honest that beach race sounded a bit tough to me.
It's all good joshing though. And like running distance versus time it is preference