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Ian, congrats on the 5K PB - that's a great time! As you say, hopefully you can get some training in once you're off work for a few days.
I went out this morning with the intention of doing 3 or 4 miles as my hip felt okay when I woke up, but after about 0.5 miles I just felt it was right to stop and turn around. The hip was kind of okay (i.e., 2/10 in terms of pain) but all across my lower back felt stiff/sore. Frustrating but I just felt that there was no point pushing it at this stage, so need another rest day at least.
No running yesterday, but I did sort out my travel to York. I've decided to train it rather than drive as it's 5hrs drive, presuming everything goes well. It's 5.5hrs on the train, with no changes, direct from Newton Abbot to York, so more relaxing on the train I think. It's really frustrating as if I'd booked direct on National Rail it would have been £156 return, which is crazy for an off peak ticket, and it's that price that was making me consider driving. However, I used one of the "ticket splitter" sites and got it for £101.83 for the same train!! OK, I have a bunch of tickets for the one journey, but I've read the Ts & Cs carefully and as long as I produce the correct ticket when asked for, there's no issue, and it's reserved me the same seat for the whole journey. It's still a lot of money and probably more expensive than diesel (I'm travelling on my own), but more relaxing for that length of journey. I've got what looks like a nice AirBNB there, and there's a parkrun nearby, so I am very much looking forward to that weekend. Claire and I went to York a couple of times, and it's a great city. It's not until October though, but it is one of the main events I'm looking forward to for the rest of the year.
I also finished the Ron Hill books yesterday. I really enjoyed them, but again a couple of things stood out to me. In the later part of his career his focus was very much more on the business side of things I think, and I just feel that he believes he didn't achieve what he could/should have done in his running. Shame as he was obviously a fantastic runner (massive understatement!), but the second part of the second book he just didn't seem at all happy with his running.
Big G-I often do that,it's ridiculous the money ive saved,as you say theres no issues and the inspectors always know about it.
It's the drive to York that's so far put me off doing the Yorkshire marathon but it's definitely on my 'to do' list so I plan to do it. I'm not keen on the train and I'd want the car so I can stay out of the city as York is very expensive especially on marathon weekend. At least you could save yourself £50 on the fare by splitting the ticket.
I thought you'd enjoy the Ron Hill books. Of course these days he would have had lottery funding and sponsorship and wouldn't have had to worry about supporting his family with such a demanding business.
Incidentally on the news today as the result of yet another survey about the benefits of exercise on mental health, they are saying that exercising more than 90 minutes a day has a detrimental affect on mental health. So I decided to read the report more fully and in their classification of 'exercise' they've included housework. Of course if you did hours of housework every day you'd be more likely to be depressed.
So the headline and the actual content of the report were saying different things.
I'm obviously not medically trained in any way but I find it amazing, only now not drinking, how many of these studies there are that promote the perceived advantages of drinking alcohol. It seems it gets into the consciousness, and becomes fact. But just picking under the surface of the news articles and the evidence falls apart (occasionally this research is actually financed by a drinks company too....)
The BBC did a balanced article on the study last week, but the image they used was of people enjoying themselves with glasses of wine in their hands. Again, it kind of subconsciously promotes the fact that drinking is a "good thing" when their article concluded the opposite.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45043178
The compounds that are good for you in red wine are too small a quantity in most wines to have any effect anyway.
The press coverage of the survey last week also failed to mention that those with an increased dementia came from the group that developed strokes and heart disease.
Steven, I don't mind the rain either as less idiots about however I very rarely start a run if its pissing down.
Ian, well done on the 5k, looking forward to having a crack at my club's races next year
cal - hope the enforced rest will do you good
big g - annoys me that those train splitter sites work as it shouldn't have to any they should give the best price in the 1st place, if there are systems already in place for it. When I was going down to rece NDW they were wanting £30+ a trip usually, I would buy a travelcard and a single from zone 6 to where I was running usually total cost less than £15.
In future if you are travelling with someone else it is worth getting a two together rail card, £30 for the year and saves a 1/3 off the travel when you travel with them, so one trip costing £60 each you'd already be saving.
shades - 90 mins house work!!!! I tell the OH that I'm doing housework reality 5 mins housework 85 mins playstation.
Final run before Saturdays 10k, 10x10sec hill sprints 90 secs recovery. Legs feel nice and heavy so will enjoy the rest day tomorrow. Aim is sub 45 mins but have no idea if I've got the speed at the moment.
Shades- thankfully I've not been needed to work at the European Championships just used to take up the slack for the guys that do.
No running today went for a game of golf instead. I joined my local golf club about a month ago and am using it as another form of exercise.
Are you still on the healthy eating with your OH?
steven - not sure how much exercise there is in golf,
Rest day for me today, have to pack and off to the airport as flying to the IOM later. This is the one journey of the year that I dread, only 80 odd miles to the airport but a few years ago this was the trip when I came the closest to missing a flight. Due to delays on the M5 and despite having allowed a lot of extra time for the trip I only got to the airport 20 minutes before the flight left, I abandoned my car in the airport car park ran into the airport and amazingly they let me on the flight, was a bit stressful.
I’m going to try a short run a bit later, so hopefully that’ll go ok.
Hope you have a pain free run.
Am so looking forward to cooler temperatures this weekend for running, supposed to be about 17 and maybe some rain. Unfortunately humidity is going to be in the high 90's for the whole race (unusual for the IOM) but I don't mind, I'm just going to be grateful not to be in blistering hot sun as I've had my last couple of races.
I have a friend doing the 10 in 10 in Italy, been over 30 every day so far, hottest they've had is 37, but she's surviving OK. I think AH is doing the same event.
Some friends are over from Alaska who I haven't seen for a while. Last time they were here was 2yrs ago, but I was in Vietnam then so it's been about 4yrs since I've seen them, although we chat fairly often. A few of us met up last night, and it was nice to catch up with them all. Although I don't seem him often, he's a good friend but quite unusual in terms of being a bit of a "mad professor" and she's a wild American originally from LA. They've been together years and are very happy together but I'm not really sure how their paths ever crossed! They often look at each other and laugh as they have different opinions on things but it obviously works!
He's well into drones now, for work - he studies volcanos, and is an expert in the field he works in, although I guess it's a fairly limited/specialist field! I'm fairly techy (or geeky, if you like!), but he lost me within about 3-milliseconds of explaining what his current project was.
Shades, still clean eating although lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks, OH has lost the same weight and was slimmer of the week last week. She celebrates her 40th birthday in 2 weeks so will be over indulging then i'm sure. Enjoy IOM, hope you dont experience troubles on the journey.
Big G hope you have a niggle free run, is this the make and break for Sailsbury? Your friend will have lost me a Volcano!
rest day as planned, tomorrow looks okay for the 10k 16-17 degrees and sunny, be a nice run hopefully.
I'm not surprised you don't see your friends very often if they live in Alaska! I remember you mentioning the volcanos before. Drones must the best invention ever for those studying volcanos.
Robert - well done to you and your OH, that's a significant weight loss.
I'm all packed now so will sign off. Will check in over the weekend if hotel wi-fi is OK.
Good luck to all racing this weekend.
Robert, I reckon it's 60/40 in favour of me doing the event on Sunday. I'll do a parkrun tomorrow and see how it is after that and then decide. I was hoping to do a local 5-mile trail race tonight, but I won't do that in case it aggravates the hip again - it's a shame as it's a great event but the marathons are my priority really. If I do the event on Sunday, I won't be racing it anyway and I'll just treat it as a day out....well, hopefully not a whole day out, but you get my meaning
Shades, in the past, they have invited me over to Alaska but it's really expensive to get there. I.E., £1500 return. Last night they did mention about an Alaskan trail marathon they know of, and of course my ears pricked up at that. I suppose never-say-never, but I can't justify those flight prices (even though they'd put me up free of charge) so it's not remotely on my list at all. And away, Alaska is bloomin' freezing most of the time! It's odd as the flight times are more or less the same as getting to Vietnam, but if you're flexible you can get to Vietnam for around £500 return, plus it's really cheap once there. I think to get to Alaska it's 2 different flights/carriers though which probably adds to the cost.
Shades-Good luck in IOM, have a great weekend and race.
Big G-Id guess there's a lot more competition heading towards Vietnam to help keep prices competitive.
Away myself this weekend in Northern Ireland for my cousins wedding,but looks like I can get some runs in.
10 miles today,very rainy afternoon and I got caught in the worse of it,luckily I got my new coat and it kept the rain off very well.
thank you vinson700 for that insight!
shades/ian, the weight loss has bought me to last years weight so happy with that, if I can lose another 3-4 lbs then i'll be the lightest for 3 years (12st 7lb). Elle has about 4 stone to lose compared to my 1 and a bit but a great start and feeling confident continuing.
Big G glad run went well, sensible not to race a 5 miler this evening.
Still looking at next years races and am considering a back to back ultra nothing too serious in July either 50k/ 34 mile on the Saturday and 50km on the sunday. Just waiting for the FVC to announce their date for the race and will double it with either XNRG 50km in Chiltern area or Essex 30 which is a 34 mile lapped race.
woke up with that feeling ‘oh f*ck, why have I entered a 10k?’ Wanted to stay in bed and I won’t have lost anything as won the place in a raffle. But made it on the train, must be serious as I’m going to be 90 mins early so I can warm up properly!
Cal all see you there, I’m in a grey and white stripy top.
just keep on remembering I actually enjoyed my last 10k 6 months ago a feeling I hadn’t experienced for 8 years
hyde park 10k was pretty reasonable a few seconds inside my sub 45 target fairly well paced but still had plenty in the tank but think need to be racing these distances more often to know my limits.
Splits were
6.56
6.56
7.04
7.33 (knocked a few water bottles over so picked em up)
7.21
7.22
7.26 (final 0.2)
maybe considering another 10 late September before my target half or in November.
pleasure to meet cal after the run! Enjoy tomorrow’s 5k
I was quite impressed Robert was on the first page of the results - he was 33rd. I'm just happy when I finish in the first half, which I did today (124 of 346).
I was warned there was a big hill in the middle, so it wasn't going to be a fast race for me either (especially not coming the day after a 10K).
Due to the hills I didn't risk wearing the Zoom Flys and stuck with my old Frees, and it felt odd to run fast in them. The Flys give me a little boost when I run, whereas I get nothing from the Frees, and this pair has over 400 miles on them including two marathons.
The race started on a track before venturing out into the park, then up on to the road, past the All England Club and then on to the hill. Which was steep...really steep. I trudged up, passing three people (two of who had decided to walk it) which made me feel a little smug. But then, after a short flat bit, came the down hill. Boy I was glad I didn't go with the Flys. I could barely run down it in my Frees. The same three people came right back past me again. I would make a really shit fell runner.
I got past them again as the ground levelled out and we came back into the park for the last bit, then back on to the track for the final stretch. Garmin says I ran it in 26:16 so a minute off my best, but not that bad considering the hill. Splits were 8:12/8:55/8:09 (plus the last .1 at 7:43 pace).
I guess there will be a wait for the official results seeing as they did it manually. I know I was the slowest of the five Chasers, probably by a long way, but there were quite a few behind me so I'll be interested to see where I finish by age cat.
cal well done for getting out for the 5k, I’m still suffering from yesterday!
made it out for a sore on quads 10 miles along the river and back. Scrap anything I said about doing more 10ks I didn’t really push myself yesterday and my quads are still very sore!
Sounds a good race there, Cal, but as you say it does seem a bit odd paying for a non-chip timed 5k these days. It is different running a proper race though, compared to a parkrun I think. I'm similar to you in that I'm really crap on hills, but in my case I'm also crap at running up the blasted things
I may see a physio, but I'll leave it a few days yet I think. I just need to make sure I don't put weight on as I'm currently at 12st10 which I'm quite pleased with.
Cal-Well done on today's effort also.
Big G-Tough decision to DNS but definitely sounds like the right one.
Easy 6 miles with the wife yesterday morning and and a tough 5 ok my own today,ran up to Scrabo tower which,id imagine is decent DD training,starts of with a nice easy km to get to the bottom then just over a mile with 120ft of climb to get warmed up and a final road of just over half mile with 315ft of climb,By the far the hardest climb I've ever done.
Official time for today was 26:15. Big whoop. Trouble with clubby races is I'm always well down the rankings, even by age group. Strong contrast with Runthroughs where I'm usually top 5 age group and sometimes top three (though they don't give prizes for that).
Very much doubt I'll do that race again. As a rule I like to get a medal for my trouble, and if there's no medal then there better be a good shot at a PB, which today's course wasn't. I won't say I didn't enjoy it, because it was an experience, but I gave up a long run for it and, with only five Chasers turning up, I can't say it was worth it.
Good news on the potential new job there Cal, and great it's so close to your house too. It may take a bit of rearranging but I'm sure you'll figure it out. It's good that it's over and done with by mid afternoon too. Maybe move the (usual Sunday?) long run to Monday, and have Tuesday as an "active" rest day at work?
Yeah, similarly to you I think two quick sessions in a row do me no favours generally. The mind thinks it can do it (and wants to do it!) but the body says otherwise, sadly. On some bank holiday weekends, there are sometimes 3-4 short local races in a row (I think Easter weekend there are races Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon) and a few of my club do them all, but I've never managed it. I could jog them, but I know in races where I say I'm going to use it as a steady run, I always end up going quicker than I wanted! Even if I start right at the back, I seem to get into a bit of competition with myself about how many I can overtake.
No running here. Pain is okay and I think I could actually run, but I need to be sensible and take another day off. I've just been stretching and massaging it a lot, which appears to be helping. We'll see in a day or two.