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No orange singlet TR?
Sorry you didn't have the race you wanted CC2. Did you enjoy the experience though?
Sounds as though you're in a good place CD.
Sorry to hear the news about your Dad TR, but glad to hear the surgery went well and he seems to be recovering well. I also enjoyed the coursework analogy!
Good to hear you'll be spectating in Brighton Joe - I'll be the bald yet beardy guy in a Brentwood tee. Cracking effort in Diss too; you're in fine form atm.
Sorry to hear about your half CC2 - hopefully just a blip.
I'm reading Matt Fitzgerald's Life Is A Marathon at the minute which I'm really enjoying. Would recommend it to anyone looking for some last minute inspiration.
Good stuff on the speedy 5Ks JB, selbs & Dan. And great work in the duathlon JB.
Sorry your HM wasn't a good one, CC2.
My big run yesterday was 10M steady (really nice, 7:20 miling at 125 bpm feeling easy on fresh legs), 10K tempo, then 10M more beaten-up/windward steady at 8m/M for a 3hr15 marathon total, which felt very comfortable overall (and fuelled only by a pint of coffee, as usual). The tempo however was disappointing -- marathon HR (avg 146 bpm), but only 6:36/M or 2hr53 pace. It was a bit wind-affected but not too bad, so that's really not looking great. Still 4 weeks to improve though...
whats your thoughts on reasons cc2?
Good racing JB
6 days to go. Perhaps I go with convention and run short sharp sessions next few days. Did 12.5 trail yesterday comfortably even after a weekend of 'cross training'
I'd do what makes you feel best WTGY.
I'm glad the funeral went well EE. Don't know where I'd be without the running.
LMH - the orange singlet went after my last vlm.
EE - hope to meet up at Brighton.
CW - i understand what you are doing, but itd be good to mix it up a bit sometime, esp after a few iterations of the same thing. However i have brought in so many new things that i wont know whats worked and what hasnt.
9m inc strides home today. Legs felt awful, but i guess thats good at 2 weeks to go.
Second outing for the new shoes today and after a winter training in waterproof Nike Pegasus, it would rain the first time I wear my lairy gold Epic React flyknits wouldn't it. That will learn me lol.
Tempo session which will be pretty much my last fastish effort before Brighton - 1M WU, 3M tempo (6:36, 6:25, 6:19), 1.6M CD. Will be doing some 1minute pushes with the club tomorrow then that's pretty much it!
I take it you high mileage guys notice a big lift from the taper come race day.
I did a very slow mile in the treadmill yesterday
Wardi - agreed, hpefully long run he can manage it and justify going through the op. He wasnt well yday and the remaining innersarnt working yet and led to backing up into the lungs.
5m easy today. Still feels terrible om tired legs, which has to be a good thing.
I hope so Mennania. Should you be running yet?
Sounds like typical taper running TR. Hope your dad improves quickly.
I have an appointment with a foot specialist tomorrow who is an active sportsman. Hopefully he will tell me im fine to carry on.
LMH - agreed, but it will take time to recover and get a manageable regime going. Its been a worry, but it should be. Id like to see him get well enough so i can replace a few mental matches pre brighton, but that's a selfish view.
Mennania - do you work to HR when you run? If not I'd just look to do some steady state activity to help with sanity as much as fitness and maybe some interval sessions to raise the HR. I think the x-trainer is closest to running but I can't use it as it knackers my knees really quickly.
LMH - normally just pace but have thought about HR training a few times. Musta dmit its stressing different muscles than running
CD - yeah I thought it was pretty good, glad to see them on a proper XC course for once.
Some advice required from the vat of knowledge we have on this thread;
Eventful few days for me. Did my normal 2 x recovery runs on Monday, but wasn't quite feeling myself. Got in Monday night, knew something was up as I wasn't eating (very unlike me), and suddenly started feeling really nauseous.
Got up to go to the bathroom, but never made it. Passed out in the hallway, landed in a heap on top of Katie's bike. Came to with her understandably very worried, whilst I didn't have a clue where I was. I then had some pretty full on fever symptoms, shivering so much that it actually hurt my bones. Raging temperature and no energy.
Strangely, woke up the following morning feeling not too bad. Went into work in the morning, but complete day off training, and today I'm still not quite right today, which is frustrating. Able to move about/eat etc. but just feeling out of sorts.
As you can imagine, struggling to deal with it, with VLM just around the corner. Someone tell me something rational like a couple of days off isn't going to hurt my chances! How would you guys structure it, assuming I have 2/3 days off and that leaves me with just over 3 weeks to go?
Bit of a shock today doing my last session of 3 min reps in minus temps. Legs were too cold to feel bad though. 7m inc 8x3min.
CD - have you been to the night of the 10k PBs? You'd love the beer tent and atmosphere there. Probably the best night of athletics I've been to (and I was at Super Saturday 2012). Makes you realise too how much talent there is in the UK when the E race entry standard is about 32 minutes
You doing Richmond half this year? It's the week after London once again, but that seemed to work well for me a couple of years back; still my second quickest half marathon.
Wardi - agree re. Switzerland. Go there quite often to run (Davos, Verbier, Zurich, Lausanne etc), and every time I remark how spotless it is. London by comparison is an embarrassment, with litter and grafitti everywhere.
TR - do you have a race plan / tergat? Rigid sub 3 pace, or play it by feel?
Just binned a similar sess to EE y;day, but stymied by the most impressive hailstone shower ever witnessed thankfully not experienced! Maybe later.
How are you feeling Dan?
It was chilly here this morning too TR. Bet it feels good to have the session done though.
Cold but bright and still here this morning so I made the most of available time and enjoyed a 22 mile run. Everything feels ok (well, as ok as it ever does at this stage) but my pace is still well off what it has been the last couple of years. I'm beginning to wonder whether to try a three week taper, maybe something like 80/60/40 miles or stick to two but cut the mileage back a bit more than usual - any thoughts?
Dan - the night of the 10k PBs is one of those I keep meaning to get to but have never been. I did think of that though when I saw the beer tent at the XC. Now that they've dropped 10k & 5k from the diamond league we might be relying on events like that to keep long distance track races going - some of the commentary at the weekend was about whether the Olympics would replace 10k on the track with a 10k XC, which would be awful given XCs not supposed to be a summer sport on hard sun-baked paths.
I haven't entered Richmond yet, but I'm tempted. I've run well at it when it's been two weeks after London, and it wasn't too bad when I did the Boston-London-Richmond triple weekender, so maybe...
JoeB - really don't think a few days off will make any difference to your core fitness at all; if anything will do you some good as others have said.
One of my local clubs (Chelmsford AC) is doing a Miles of Miles Festival in August - idea feels slightly borrowed from the Night of 10K PBs, but it's more for track newbies than elites. Intrigued to know what I could post for a mile - bit short for me, but I was a 1500m runner in school so you never know.
Club session tonight is 25 x 1 min - think I'll do 12 or 15 of those and bail given they're all mostly training for VLM rather than Brighton.
DanA - play it by feel. But end result very much depends upon wind speed. Will be tricky to know how much to save if its windy. I was 1.27.3X at 1/2 way at Abo, which was prob a bit quick for my then fitness, but due to lack of miles i was a cramped up mess from 20ish. So maybe similar sort of pacec? Doubt id dare go through in 1.29 in case i need a pit stop or it gets real windy late on.
LMH - hope the 22 has made you feel better. No harm in a 3 week taper, i cut back a bit last week. Better that than not.
EE - i cut my session to 8x3min, so 24 min of effort. I think 25 would be ok, but as per my note to LMH, less cant be too much.
TR - win /win as LMH said
OO - putting A/B/C targets on there too, think I'll wait for the other Manc lads to get theirs up.
5 @ MP last night, felt decent and whilst not easy easy, felt pretty comfortable and wasn't out of breath at the end.
5 at lunch with mutt + 90s/m on last nights run.
I might do another run next couple of days. Other than that its about convincing myself that what I believe MP to be is MP. And no bad luck on Sunday. Also to not let boredom get the better of me over the next 4 days :-/