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Rodeo, you have just said what many think but are maybe too scared to write!
There were 53 runners that finished between 8hrs and 9.11. It seems a bit disproportionate to keep central London closed down for about 0.1% of the field who seem to make the mist noise. They can keep the course open etc but it still won't be the same magical experience they see on TV as the crowds won't all be there at 8pm.
That's true. Every year I watch on TV and am amazed at the difference between the crowd support for the elite runners and that for the ordinary runners like myself. Maybe it's just perspective, but it always looks to me like there are so many more people lining the route when we're on it (from first-hand experience) than it appears on tv for the elites. It is a special experience, which lots of people enthuse about, so I can see why people want to take part. Unfortunately for these guys right at the back it's not going to be like that. You can't force crowds and volunteers to stay there indefinitely nor can you make them only say nice things to you. You have a to draw a line somewhere.
I am gobsmacked that the response to this is to grant all the backmarkers a free spot next year. How is this fair to the faster runners? Where was the line drawn for the free spaces? 8 hours? 7h30? 7 hours?
Assume that the marathon organisers have had to agree to additional costs to keep the roads open longer - seems disproportionate response to something that affected 50 people? And those 50 people still won't get the full marathon experience even if the roads are left open as the crowds will all have gone by then?
Great that they can guarantee places for 600 people who haven't been able to get under 7 hours. This is at the same time as capping the number of GFA places, restricting the numbers who can get in via this route, especially men. In other words, if you're say, a male in his 40s, running sub-3:15 doesn't get you in any more. Running sub-3:10 only gives you a chance, depending how other people get on. But walk your way round in 8 hours and moan about the experience and you're in. I know these issues aren't linked but it's frustrating when you consider the effort some people put in to take part in this country's premier running race, and perhaps fall just short, to see "team Greggs" get guaranteed entry.
I know these guys didn't have the experience they were looking for last year, and that's a shame. But VLM is becoming less and less about running every year and more and more about a 26.2 mile stroll for charity.
Shades - I know and I agree. The only bit I don't agree with is the idea that people can continue on the road after it's opened and be regarded as having finished. From a health & safety / risk assessment point of view, this seems difficult to justify. They are obliged to return the roads back to the city in a suitable condition,. hence the chemical clean-up, etc. There are places where they can't continue on the pavement, it's either too crowded or sometimes there isn't one (e.g.- the underpass at 24 miles). So VLM are then condoning these guys either being exposed to the chemicals which were complained about this year or having to run on open roads with traffic in the middle of a major city.
This isn't really the fault of the people concerned, it's a situation caused by the roads re-opening before the cut-off time communicated. It could / should be easily fixed - if they've offered these guys guaranteed places next year and they're going to go at the same pace, then the same issues will arise, no matter how how "aware" the marshalls are made.
Hate to say it, but what if there was serious injury or worse in the Blackfriars underpass on open roads but while the marathon was still "on"?
I have googled and fb searched it but can't find it. Any particular group we might look on??
You'd be gutted if you 'ran' 6.59!!!
Free as well as guaranteed??!!!
Yes, I am sure it was the last thing people wanted at the particular time.
Hopefully that brings an end to it and they all have a great experience next year. It still won't be quite like what the 5 hour runners get but there is nothing vmlm can do about that.