My Last Run

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  • Never heard of a massage gun before either Cal.  Good way to look at your day off.

    Good to see you LTT. When you do set out for a run, short and gentle!

    Hope you feel better soon JD.

    Keeping pretty active here, hike yesterday over a couple of minor peaks. Nothing high or technically difficult due to the snow situation, just a slight covering by the time we got to the high point though. Couldn't resist putting my feet into it - brrr!

    Bad weather rolled in this afternoon so not much planned for the day. Took advantage of that to do a 14 miler this morning up and back down a nearby valley with a climb of around 500m. Pleasingly free of the clutter of civilisation in the upper parts and much like Scotland with the vegetation dying off to brown for the winter. Legs tired after the hiking so kept the effort down to a level I knew would allow me to get back without a struggle.  Ran this valley as part of of an alpine mara a couple of years ago, must have another go at that soon.
  • Linton, you can get there. My first half was 2:18. There was a four year gap (foot surgery for a cyst, parents dying, then a torn calf) but then did my second in 2:12:47. That year (2015) I made up for lost time by doing eight half marathons and dropped my time by 10 minutes, but it took another year to crack two hours. I'm not a natural athlete (I hate those buggers who go sub-2 in their first half...took me 13 halves before I got there!) but if I can do it, I'm sure you'll be able to.

    JD, I'm not in either - I know a couple of people in my club who got in but Facebook is full of people griping about their bad luck. I can recommend Manchester as a nice, flat course (I'm doing it, provided I don't come down with shingles after Tokyo, of course). I know after my first (which was Manchester, in fact) I was so annoyed I had to do another because I was determined to run all the way. Which I did, a year later. Maybe make that your goal, rather than a specific time (although beating your current time would be good, too).

    Hazelnut, are you tempted by UTMB and its ilk? I reckon you'd be quite well suited to sky races.
  • The rest day did me some good - I woke up feeling a lot more refreshed today and got 8 miles done. Quite chilly - wore long tights but also a T-shirt. I saw a lot of runners wearing long sleeves and even jackets, although there was one lady in a vest. Averaged 10 min/miles so a little quicker than my usual easy pace which often happens when I'm trying to keep warm.
  • Not sure if "last run" refers to last formal race or any training run.
    If "last formal race", then it was 22nd September. 21K.
  • Any run, rm, so training or race. Just a place to post about how it went, whether you did a marathon or just ran around the block.
    Rest day for me again, which I'm glad of as it's nasty out there.
  • swittleswittle ✭✭✭
    envruk and JD1- your kind words help me look forward to getting out there again.  Thank you.

    Physio mid-Nov. and a specialist musculo-skeletal assessment early Dec.  
  • Good luck with that, swittle.

    While Kipchoge was making history, I was parkrunning in Harrow (a three and a bit lap tarmac course with a couple of gradients that I wouldn't call hills but still took a little out of you). Tunde, the guy I met on the tram to South Norwood a few weeks back, came along too - he also came to Bexley last week. Nice fellow - 60 something, used to do a lot of marathons but now concentrates on shorter races and cross country. Still faster than me.
    I got into a bit of a battle with a veteran called Linda (the marshalls were calling out to her by name) - we were pretty even but I was doing better on the inclines and I got her on the last lap while I was going up the "hill". I had a nice chat with her after and she said she was trying to keep up with me. She was a V55 though, so I really should finished in front of her. I finished in 25:02 which is decent for a non-flat course and I was 4th lady, although the 2nd lady was V50 so no age group win. Happy enough with it though.
  • swittleswittle ✭✭✭
    Cheers, Cal.  You'll be pleased with your 5k today.
  • 10 miles done - no rain although it rained all night so the pavements were wet. I saw a few people in charity vests heading off to, presumably, Royal Parks.
    Run felt OK - legs were reasonably bouncy although left hammy is a little grumpy (that's nothing new, though, so I'm not worried).

  • enrvukenrvuk ✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    Another nice Parkrun Cal, your consistency on those has really improved the last few months. Sounds like Yorkshire could be a good one. I was looking at that as a potential first Marathon for me next autumn. Training in the cool and running in the warm aka Spring Marathon, just won't be right for my body. So I am really interested to read your race report.

    Quiet on here isn't it?

    Hope your recovery is going well Linton and that you've got over your disappointment JD.

    Nice hikes Hazel. It always makes me feel I should get out of London a lot more.

    I've only run twice since Bournemouth. A short foundation run on the same day I gave blood. A lot slower than I expected, probably because of the blood deficit!

    Yesterday I want to support my sister at the Royal Parks half. The event space was a quagmire, which wasn't fun for runners. I kept her company up to the start and was covered in mud to the knee. Other than that, what a fab course for a supporter and runner alike. Easy to see the runners at lots of different spots, great sites etc and the supporting app is really neat. Hope I can get in for next year.

    Having completed 16,000 steps supporting her, I then run 10 miles in the evening at HR Zone 2 with the last mile in HR Zone 3. It was around 6:06km/pace overall and after a grumbly knee and hard breathing in the first 10 mins, it was fine. Good to get it done.

    On the negative side I've put on around 3kg and need to lose that before St. Neots in 5 weeks! Leftovers of the three cakes I made for my wife's birthday have been sent to her office!!!!

    Oh and postscript, the running shirts given out were gender specific. My sister finally got a females technical t-shirt from a race.
  • JD1JD1 ✭✭✭
    Nice parkrun Cal,I was watching Kipchoge instead.

    You must have really enjoyed yourself on holiday to put 3kg on,enrvuk!Nice 10 miler as well.

    First run yesterday since Chester and it was quite a tough one.8.41 miles trail run,1000 ft climb,came home extremely muddy,very enjoyable run.
    5.1 miles this morning with Polly running with me,she must run an extra 0.5 mile as she sees a squirrel and goes chasing it before catching me up.
    Have a trail race lined up for November so I'm looking forward to that.
  • That's great, JD - the nice thing with trail races is there's no pressure to get a particular time - it's more about enjoying the journey. Hope the weather is OK for you.

    enrvuk, sounds like you had a very enjoyable holiday. The weight will come off once you've a few weeks of running under your belt.

    6 miles today - felt OK. Achilles good. Hamstring less good - not sure why it's chosen now to act up. I suspect it may be because I'm actually resting on my rest days rather than going out for walks or yoga. (The weather hasn't been condusive to nice walks around the common, alas).
  • And 7 miles today with 3 miles at MP (which is now sub-4 pace, not that I'm sure I can maintain that for four hours, but we'll see, I guess. Nothing ventured nothing gained).
  • enrvukenrvuk ✭✭✭
    Good to see you back in the saddle JD. Always nice to have a race planned. 

    Cal sounds like you're in good shape. Feeling prepped, are you aiming at 4h?

    Weight update, turns out I only put on 1.5kg, scales were out. Still, needs to come off. 

    Finding running tough at the mo and need to get my bum in gear for St. Neots. Just 30 mins  easy run with a fast finish to report. I think I am a little run down, which isn't helping.
  • As close as possible, yes. I'm taking a risk here - it could bit me on the arse horribly towards the end but we'll see. I did a similar thing at Manchester last year when I went with the 4:15 pacer. I managed to stick with him longer than I thought and in the end I was only 3 minutes behind him with an 11 minute PB.
  • Hi everyone! Just thought I'd check in and say hi!

    After a full 2 weeks off since injury  I went for a tentative 4.5 miler at the weekend, I literally felt like I'd been shot in the hip after 2 miles.

    last night I went for a very gentle 3 miler and the bad pain didn't arrive until I got home.  So hoping I'm healing, albeit  slowly. I can't imagine I'll be entering any races or doing any distance running for a long while though...
     

    Hope the Ham string improves Cal. Great 10 miler.  Nice Park run too! another one on the list!


    Nice trail run JD, the winter edition of that trail half marathon I did in the summer is at the end of November, wish I could do it, can hope I guess!

    That Royal parks half looked great envruk! I must do a london event one day..Glad you hadn't put on as much as you thought!

    Just got to keep positive and chip away at it. Still keeping a spring marathon dream alive!


    Have a great week and happy running.
  • Linton - Royal Parks has is like London - ballot or charity. Hard to get in through the ballot but at least the charity places aren't as expensive (I think I had to raise around £300 for mine, a few years ago).
    Of the other big London races, The Big Half and Ealing don't have a ballot. Big Half is basically half of the London Marathon course run in reverse (Tower of London through Docklands, back over Tower Bridge and through Bermondsey to Greenwich). The course isn't all that exciting, Tower Bridge/finish aside, but the elites do it and you might get a glimpse of them bombing past if you're in the right wave. First time I ran it, I saw Sir Mo, but I missed him the second time as I was in a faster wave and was in the tunnel when he was on the return leg.
    Ealing is a lovely one to do - a huge community event around leafy lanes. A little undulating but I've had PBs there in the past.

    Rest day for me. I hate the rest days but I guess I need them.
  • JD1JD1 ✭✭✭

    Hope your hamstring is ok Cal,last thing you need to worry about before Sunday.I've just signed up to the news letter regarding the ballot for the Royal Parks.

    enrvuk,just read up about St Neots HM,good potential of PB with the last three miles downhill.

    You've had some rotten luck with injuries lately Linton,hope everything clears up for you soon.

    5.54 interval run yesterday on a nice quiet country road.2 minutes @ 5k/p x 5.

    6 miles this morning with Polly,a glorious sunny autumnal day,the colours of the hills are stunning this time of year.

  • enrvukenrvuk ✭✭✭
    Cal, very exciting times. I'd love to run a 4h marathon one day, so good you are thinking in those terms. As you say, if you go with the 4h, you could set a nice PR even if you don't quite make it.

    Good to hear from LTT, fingers crossed you are properly on the mend and your dream for spring is still alive!

    Yes, JD, there are a lot from my club running St. Neot's. Seems a serious race and I will be there the back, but that's okay. So far the training hasn't gone well enough to imagine beating Bournemouth. Two nice runs from you. 

    I managed a tempo run this evening, after a day of storytelling training with my team and a couple of alcohol free beers. I've really struggled post-Bournemouth, so getting this run in after a hard day was really welcome. I felt back on track a bit. 

    Hoping Hazel is okay.
  • JD, it grumbles sometimes - I've run marathons with it before. My left glute has been knotty and sore too - I've been massaging it and using my Theragun but I think, really, it just doesn't like all the sitting, since I've been taking it easy during my taper. Probably should have gone for a few walks but the weather hasn't been condusive (except this morning, although it poured during the night and there was even some thunder).

    Linton, have you had a diagnosis?

    Hazelnut, you need to check in! Hope everything is OK with you.

    enrvuk - glad you're getting out there a bit. This bit I hate most about the marathon is the recovery bit. It really knocks the stuffing out of you.

    4 miles this morning, and it was sunny for once, but a bit chilly. Very wet underfoot, too. This run takes me through my target of 1500 miles for the year - I'll likely end up around 1700 if I don't get my customary post-marathon shingles or injury (I will try to take it easier for longer this time, though I'm always impatient to get back running again).
  • Did a 10k run on the treadmill on Wednesday night. First time in doing a 10k and managed it in just under an hour (by seconds) so was really pleased.

    Another session on the treadmill tonight, probably only 4-5 miles but may try to do more. Training for my first half-marathon in a little over 5 months time so just trying to get the distance under my belt really!
  • enrvukenrvuk ✭✭✭
    You're so right Cal, I've found it so hard to get back into it. Luckily I ran again last night and seem to have my groove again. Last night's run had some leaky shoe moments, especially as it was dark. This morning I avoided the much less prevalent puddles. 

    Impressive annual mileage. My original goal was 1000 km for the year, I've now upped it to 1000 miles, but that's going to be a close one. A 7.5k easy run this morning. Quite slow, but it was only 12 hours after my last run.

    Malteser, well done on your 10k treadmill run, that's a good time. What half are you running?
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    <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/enrvuk">enrvuk</a> said:</div><div class="QuoteText">Malteser, well done on your 10k treadmill run, that's a good time. What half are you running?</div>
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    Thanks enrvuk! I'll be running the Reading half in April (it's my local, one town over) but I've never run further than 5km before. Not got the endurance or the legs (yet!) so just trying to piece together what gems of advice I can find on this forum to train (hopefully up to a marathon one day!) and give advice back in return.

    Run tonight was disappointing somewhat. 5km in 28:30 and 4 miles in 37:43. Both at race pace (I seem unable to discipline myself for LSR's, I think mainly due to only knowing 5km max really). My pace and endurance naturally drops after 5km as well, so a lot of things I want to improve but no set plan as to how hahaha.
  • Hi Cal, I haven't had a diagnosis yet.  Is it worth going to the docs or should I go to a sports therapist first?
    life has been so relentless with work, and trying to sell my house plus other stuff.
    I do need to get it looked at, but keep hoping it will mend naturally!

    5 miles last night (furthest I've been since injury) same old, three miles then pain, glad to get home. Iced, no pain today. just starts when I run 30 minutes. Pretty much cancels out distance running!! I was going to do a 3 and 5 miler a week, and see what happens. Furious at myself for doing Folkstone badly injured, but it's done now.
    Got caught in a biblical rain and thunder storm. surprised my Aftershocks didnt pack up, that I was wearing.

    Hi Malteser! there are some great half marathon training plans online. I hadn't done one before this year but have now done 4. People are very helpful here! 

    I was on for 1000 miles this year envruk too, not now though. Good running mate, I too am suffering wet feet at the moment. All my trainers are "knit" which I found keeps your feet cool, but is as waterproof as a tea bag!

    Good running JD, nice hill run. I watched a programme about training Labrador pups for guide dogs yesterday.  It was heart warming! Off to Forrest of Dean Monday to stay in a log cabin in the woods, so hope to get some very short, low key trail/ hills in.

    Yeah hope Hazel's Ok? conspicuous by absence for sure.


    Discovered a guy on my floor at work spends his weekend LARPing. (live action roleplay). Essentially you spend your weekend in woodland, dressed as a wizard etc.  Maybe I'd be better at this than distance running...
  • Hi Linton! Yeah I've had a look at some of the plans on here and am trying to use it as a baseline/guideline for my training. Granted I've got maybe twice as long as some of them to train up but I'm probably looking at around 2:30 for a half (once I take my 5k/10k pace and then add on time for the second half of the half!)

    Just been out for a run with the OH this morning. Only a very slow 3k as she can't run fast nor far (yet! - we're working on it!). Was actually quite a nice recovery run, as my ankles and calves are suffering a bit after the 10k this week so was there more as moral support for her. Going to take a look at more running trainers in a few hours, and then onto training next week.
  • Oops sorry got a bit distracted on holiday. Meant to keep up to date but need to read back. For now all the best to Cal for York tomorrow!
  • Evening everyone! First post from a relative newbie here :) So, I started couch to 5k in March, couldn't run 100m back then, since did my first 10k in August and today, ran my first half today (Endurance Life Dunwich Half Marathon). I've been training on road for the last 6 months as I loved the ease and speed. Today was pure trail and oh my days I HATED it. I struggled with the slippery mud, the brambles, the stinging nettles, the tight narrow paths lined with tree roots etc etc etc. I run a 59min 10k so was hoping for 2hr 15 to 2hr 30 half today but gave up mentally at 12k and just about scraped a 2hr 51. I cringe at my performance today and had no idea how much harder trail would be. So, for now, I'm giving up on any more trails and sticking to mastering the 10k first. Anyone else found the switch to trail a nightmare or am I just being a douche bag?
  • Linton - sports physio. Most GPs will just say rest. 

    Very quickly as I'm at my friend's house, but I smashed it! I was taking a big risk going at sub-4 pace but I somehow kept it going and go to the finish in 3:57:08 (even my gun time was just under 4!) Arse hurts a lot now - damn hamstring tendon, but never mind that. Really, really chuffed.

    Finn, trail is a different beast. I got well and truly schooled when I did a trail half this year (it was actually 13.6 miles) - bearing in mind my HM PB is just under 1:53, this took me just over 2.5 hours. So, so many stiles to climb! I think you have to take trails as a separate thing and not worry about time. It's a very different type of running.
  • JD1JD1 ✭✭✭

    Massive congratulations Cal,you really did smash sub 4!When did you realise that you were going to do it?Your training paid off in the end,well done.

    Finn,like Cal said your time goes out of the window when doing trail races.The more you trail run the stronger you will get and that will help you in your road races as well.

    Linton,enjoy your stay in the Forest of Dean,some nice trail runs to enjoy.I watched that film a few weeks ago,wouldn't trust my Polly to be a guide dog!

    Welcome Malteser.

  • Just off for a long drive but we'll done Cal! That is am amazing milestone in running, well done! All those high mileage weeks paying off. 
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