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Really enjoyed watching the 1981 coverage. The event has changed massively, especially the finish line which was about as wide as a front door!!
MsE - lovely to hear from you. I was thinking pitter-patter to try and keep up my cadence on Saturday, thanks (it worked too avg spm 178). How are you doing?
Another rest day. Still awkward coming downstairs
I had an easy 7 mile jog with my wife yesterday for a 21 mile week- my wife and daughters all ran further than me which is rare indeed. The hip feels the same so I'm going to run easy this week. Running or rest seems to make little difference and running slowly feels ok.
There was a good BBC documentary on the first London Marathon. Good watch if you haven't seen.
Also good to hear from MsE- hope your steady rehab continues 🤞
I guess sunday mornings constitute core business hours in your world, Gul! If you look for them though and are prepared to travel, there are a decent selection of staurday races.
It would have ben too hot for sure yesterday, and like 2018, the following day gives perfect conditions!!
I enjoyed the 81 mara programme. A few take homes for me,
"The fun runners have really embraced this occasion" as two guys help someone in a mess cross the line in 3.02. I also spotted a guy coming in around 3 hours in an old school cotton traders rugby shirt. It rained all morning as well, it must have weighed 3kg!
"and some 3 hours after the start, still they come through"
The fact that the field was denser at 2.40 pace than it was at 4 hour pace and below. Queueing to cross the finish line and no one going nuts about it either.
The use of the term "girl" throughout and the fact body shape of the female winner.
Lots of local club vests in the leading packs.
All cotton t-shirts too, total nipple carnage!
My biggest fear in my first mara in '93 was being collected by the sweep-up coach. Great to see it on that program yesterday. I don't think there is one now, you just hop onto public transport and travel for free by showing your number.
Thank goodness the style in running shorts has changed too!
Rest day today to recharge the mojo.
GD - hope you're now fully charged.
Legs felt pretty much back to normal walking downstairs this morning. Might go for a run tomorrow.
After a year of learning to run again, I am happy to report feeling solid once more but it really has taken two years since my operation. It hasn't been easy but it has been worth it. i don't think I am as robust as some on here (looks at @Badbark and @Poacher ) but I'm hoping to toe the line of marathon one day. The lock-down has given me a nice window to build some endurance and I was out for an easy 8 mile run with the hounds this morning. I was delighted to see the rain as it has driven all the non-locals away and I barely saw anyone today.
I am running to time rather than pace and choosing the hilliest terrain I can find to slow me down in the hope I will build resilience and my soft tissue can then take the pounding of training for a road marathon. Just some strides to keep the pep in my legs.
I've definitely got unfinished business with 26.2. I bet loads on here have since gone sub-3 in my absence? In any case, I hope you and yours are all keeping well. Did I see mention of your hip giving you problems, @OO54? I hope it's temporary as you are running so well.
DT back when sub 3 was for fun runners eh those were the days !!!!!!!
MSE Welcome back it's great you are getting back at it again ,not many have gone sub 3 on here most it seems suffering the same 3:15 forum fate of 2017 like yourself where we all broke and failed to get back again or maybe it just seems that way ! It was a bad year for injuries ......Like yourself Id like to get a decent mara in again but it's looking as tough as ever and I may just stick to half mara's as I had better luck there.
Rested up yesterday as was hobbling about with my knee so no point flogging it but that has allowed me to get a tempo in today 5 miles with middle 3 tempo 6:37, 6:37 and a spritely 6:12 chasing down a runner far in the distance ,fastest I've gone in some time.
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Bagged a new pair of shoes for LSRs...
Good speed Leslie 👍
Leslie - some good tempo miles.
3 mile recovery run this morning. Not ready for an ultra endurance yet
Hi all, still holding back as don't feel like the back will cope with much running and I wont be satisfied with 20 minutes 3 times a week. I have ben on to Bupa and I had a consultation with this guy yesterday;
https://www.fmpa.co.uk/2019/01/14/dr-mark-gillett-appointed-medical-advisor-premier-league/
He runs himself and specialises in sports people as per the role he has. I think he is also chief medic at Notts forest and was at West Brom. He is going to speak with a local clinic that is still doing mri scans to se if they will let him examine me there and inject a nerve blocker which will then allow me to do the work he says I need to do to return to full running.
He is also interested in this low ab/pubis soreness I have been getting for the last 9 months or so which I just treat as a niggle. He takes groin, hip and lower back as 1 unit.
Waiting to hear further from him.
OO - glad to hear it isn't anything serious. I know bikes are wonderful for x-training but I don't generally benefit from folding myself into that position.
Gul - you are back on your feet soon after your marathon. I always needed a week or two before I felt able to run again although always felt the day per mile raced for recovery was too long.
GD - which NB do you wear? That's a decent discount! Thanks for sharing.
Leslie - you are speedy again! How's the glass knee holding up? I will probably focus on anything up to HM and see how much speed I can muster before contemplating the longer distances. Have you used HM training schedules for your races? It occurred to me I only ever trained for a marathon so it will be fun to train for shorter stuff.
Birch - how are you doing?
DT - agree there is consensus that the average finisher's time for marathons has got considerably slower. The question is whether mass participation trumps competition and quality?
Gul you take 2 weeks easy then we will see lol
Dt getting the big guns in now so you should have a fix soon hopefully.What we actually need is a "running pill" that blocks all aches and pains so we can carry on as normal !!!!!!
MSE knee was fairly tragic last week where it hurt to move at all some days and hasn't been great lately, I take rest days when I have too .Earlier in the year the club was doing increasing tempos adding 5 or 10 mins a week up to an hour ,this was supposed to be near mara pace but I was using it as half mara tempo as I'm not doing a mara , that and some Kenyan hills continuous up and down at hard effort and when I can't go to club due to work was doing 400 and 800 reps to get the speed up.
After a few weeks easy and running on my own trying small hard tempos( 2 or 3 miles now but hoping to build it up and will then drop to 1 tempo ) twice a week with a long run of up 10 miles and the rest easy. Due to working shifts and the hard tempos I can't get above 10 miles yet as my legs are whacked. I do think tempos are probably the most important runs to build speed and fitness so this will be my focus for a while see how it goes.
My plan was to build half mara speed too as a step to a decent mara attempt but the more you get the short distance right the harder running an actual mara seems , 20+ milers now just seem a world away .
5m easy today bit cooler today and some rain for a change ! Think this April must be the driest in History and warmest too ...
Interesting what you say DT. I also have issues lower ab/pubis/lower back/hips. Often wonder if all related
MsE - post-run for me is breakfast, albeit around an hour later usually, which during the week is lots of porridge with honey, chia seeds and sultanas plus two slices of wholemeal bread with marmalade and peanut butter, all washed down with 500ml of water.
Leslie - lots of rain here over the last few days, but as you say, still an incredibly dry April.
OO - wise decision. I was sorely tempted to stop on Saturday when I passed home... But only for a loo stop. Glad I didn't cave in and just pressed on without incident
6 miles this morning. I know I am going to be shouted down for this, but thinking about going for the 12 hour ultra this Sunday. (Takes cover).
Rest days here as I have one of those colds that doesn't have many symptoms but you know it's 'there'.
Interesting pains there, DT and OO. I had similar years ago. Ended up having my hip joint reshaped. Had a condition called FAI in my hip. I've spoken about it on here before. Was on crutches for a month and had 9 months of rehab. Never looked back, amazing procedure.
Hopefully nowhere near what you guys have but might be worth checking the symptoms. I did the 2009 London marathon with it. Scored a PB but it hurt.
Gul, that would be an insane decision. Let your body recover from what you have just done. Your training cycle has ended now you are in the recovery and adaption phase. Let that happen then start again and you will be sub 3 in London come October if it happens.
GD- just had a look that and other groin/pubis pain I don't tick any other boxes by looks.
Had my final appt last night with physio that I've been seeing last month or so. She is pleased with my conditioning progress and has taken things to next level and said to get through that and try a run in 10 days. Hopefully before then i'll have seen this other guy.
Anyway, she has agreed that as long as I keep form, press ups and planking can be done which starts making me feeling like I am training. The competitor in me has immediately appeared so found a 30 day zero to 5 minute plank plan which starts at 10s! I did 80s today so start at day 8. Maxed out at 35 press ups, not bad for having done nothing in 7 weeks. I'll hope to be double that this time next week.
Out for another 8 mi on the hilly trails this morning. Legs felt bit clunky initially then quickly found their rhythm. I have started to run with my Buff to pull up when I pass others, taking inspiration from my Californian friends. While the evidence is mixed as to whether it is that helpful (and the advice is to lay off PPE to ensure sufficient stocks for medical workers), a home-made version offers a degree of reassurance for others seeing you covering your mouth and nose in these strange times. Back for a Gul-inspired bowl of porridge with banana and blueberries and a yummy flat white coffee with soya milk. Not sure where to put the toast with marmalade and nut butter as well. Will have to work on getting up to that level over time.
I've also tried pulling up my buff, not good for any length of time but ok for passing others.
Legs are reasonable today but I may rest and try another long effort tomorrow.
You are quite mad Gul, I'd be amazed if your body could withstand it, but who am I to judge 😉