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John- shame re the NB, esp as they sold out so quick.
Hamo - looks like yr taper is kicking in too. No carbs yet, nothing out of the usual routine yet (apart from less running), although off the beer for a few days, might have a beer load friday night. To be fair im pretty unexcited for it at the mo, maybe thats a good thing.
6m inc 2m mp.
Hamo - Nice double today, are the legs feeling fresher now taper has started?
TR - Almost there now if the race number has arrived.
Jools - Sounds like a busy day, but cracking effort!! Yeah I normally do those sessions too fast, so agreed, I'll move on.
Cal - I guess it depends what distance ultra you want to do other than the 50k and what mileage you'll do. If 50k will be the longest, you'll be OK doing marathon training, so could still include some 10k workouts in there.
Easy 6 miles today.
Morning all. Long time no post. I’ve not read back fully, so apologies if I’ve missed any big performances, but congrats to Macca on the TP100, Millsy on the 50 miler, and Hamo on the GNR and just generally continuing to smash it. Also nice to see NE posting again!
My running still isn’t great, and my past fitness feels further away than ever! The hamstrings are still not right, better than they were but still tight and achey. In the past few weeks I seem to have settled on 2x5mi and 2x10mi which seems to be enough stimulus without overdoing it, so I will probably stick at that for a while now. I'd love to be doing more, but with the current situation I’m in no rush. If I can get back to fitness for London in October 2021 I'll be happy!?
I am enjoying what little running I’m doing at least, and ultimately that is the most important thing. I love the sunrises this time of year...
John, that sounds like a hard week, indeed.
Woke up at 3.30am today and couldn't go back to sleep. In summer I'd just have some coffee and go out at 5 (I always need 90 minutes for coffee, bathroom and warm-up stuff) but of course it's bloody dark now, and I wanted to do some faster stuff today so I ended up gaming for several hours before dragging myself out a just after 9am for a 7 mile fartlek. Notched up a few segment PBs and enjoyed the faster bits, although achilles was a tad grumpy.
Hopefully that'll help my stride open up a bit.
Agreed it's a fair old trek TR but at least I'll be in a beautiful spot by the sea. Her old place was closer but I always felt a bit cheated being in Devon yet so far from the sea.
John Main target for the 10K is to beat January's 41:08 though I'll be aiming to go sub40.
With that in mind I'll be having an easier couple of days Friday & Saturday to allow some recovery.
Bike/run commute today. Managed to stay dry for the bike part not sure I'll be so lucky for the run this evening but I'm not so bothered about that tbh.
Cal - 3.30 !! The faster bits sound like you are freshening up a bit.
Jools - hope the run home was dry.
In other news I just had a cancellation email from Cheshire 10K - so that's another one for 2021 now!
Cal - you cant be the only one, did you have to put a predicted finish time?Although id rather start earlier than later myself. What time do the fastest folks go ? 12 noon ?
Steve...Yea, the legs don't feel too bad in fairness. Nice easy miles.
Spoons...Good to hear from you and that you are enjoying your running. 2x5 and 2x10 is decent weekly mileage to maintain at to be fair to you. Hopefully you can keep improving the hamstrings and really target London.
Cal...Nice fartlek running, sensible not to do that in the dark. The organiser of Dorney seems to be very helpful, so i'm sure you can get your start time moved no bother. Far better to run in a wave/time you are comfortable with.
Jools....Sorry to hear that, it's a real shame it was cancelled on you, you were a cert to sub 40 for me. Did they give any specific reasons for it? I'm guessing that makes the rearranged Wrexham marathon look even more in doubt now. Well done on the course record on strava, and always nice to hit MP at the end of a run, esp uphill.
John...Good luck with the 5k TT.
Like Cal i got my email from Dorney last night, unlike Cal i am happy enough with my starting position and wave.
The famous 9 miles with 3x a mile this morning for me. 3 mile efforts where 4.53, 4.55 and 5.02 so perfect for the range i was after. That's all the sessions done now, just to keep it sensible and get to the start line.
Hamo - scorching reps. I like the sound of Dorney, could be a blessing in disguise if wrexham gets cancelled (which looks odds on), i was a bit concerned that you would lack competeion at Dorney, but it sounds like you will have some quick people to race. Its better for your chances of reacing your current potential if folks that can currently beat you show up.........im sure the excitement will come saturday, i then have 5 or 6 laps sunday to find the eye of the tiger........im running in discomfort a lot now though and every run has become a wonder as to how much and for how long, its not enjoyable and i want to ease off for a while after Sunday. But after a while on sunday im sure my legs will hurt more than my stomach issue anyway.
4m inc 5 x 30sec strides.
TR - Nice 4 with strides.
Jools - Shame about the 10k, but sounds like a good run to hit sub 3 pace uphill.
John - Hope the 5k TT goes well.
Cal - That's an early start to the day!! Nice fartlek.
Spoons - Good to hear you are still running. No point rushing back with no big races around.
12 miles today with 5 miles at MP, was a bit windy this week, but splits of 7:01/7:04/7:00/6:50/6:46, felt good again, as wasn't sure after Tuesday's session what the pace would come out to.
Steve - another tempo? What are you following at the mo?
Had a look at the weather forecast. NW moderate breeze with 30mph gusts, how often do we get NW winds down here ? You couldnt make it up, thats the last direction you'd ask for given the track layout. The forecasters had best have another look.
Today was an epic fail. After the email from ATW last night and finding out I was in the 11am start, I've been pretty stressed and down in the dumps to the extent that I was even half considering pulling out. (I'm not thrilled about the cups either - I always shoot the water up my nose unless I stop to walk which I did in Vienna, so that'll cost me time).
I was supposed to run today but it was dark and raining and by the time it got lighter and drier, I had completely lost the motivation to get out there...or do anything at all, for that matter. I eventually forced myself to walk to Lidl for a couple of vegetables since I'd run out, but that's as much as I've moved all day.
The good news is that ATW have just emailed me back to say they've updated my time and will update the start page in a couple of days. So hopefully this means I can run at 10am instead. It's not perfect but I've done Liverpool which has a 10 start so I'll cope a bit better, I think.
AWC - same goes over the next few days, clear those passages (maybe not in front of people).
Hamo - top reps. Inspired (and also following last 2 weeks of taper) I did the 3x1m today as well. 5.46, 5.45 and 5.40 so pleased with those.
Jools - more big days. Sorry about the 10k, you must be thinking about tapering soon for IOW ?
John good luck with the 5k TT - I’m in a virtual 5k thing and every Saturday there’s a few Sydney Striders posting 5k times long before I’ve got out of bed.
Cal - hope you can get a start time that suits. I think the NDW50 is full but volunteering at this years NDW might get a place. I’m thinking about it myself.
Spoons - good to see you back and the canal pictures on Strava. It’s good to race but if I had to choose, just being able to get every day for an hour or so would come first.
Steve - those sessions come thick and fast, Hanson’s IIRC. Strong looking finish.
Funny old week, I should be making my way to the Acropolis in about 12hrs time but a letter from school saying a confirmed c19 case in my lads y9 reminds me not to dwell on it. However, I’m going to dwell on my beet it shots for a moment. I bought a box for the spring campaign and just noticed they are out of date end of Sept. I’m tempted to make some Bloody Marys with them and neck the rest for the V VLM, or maybe it should be the other way round.
Macca - cheers, nice one on the 3000, im just short of that. Shame re acropolis trip. Lots of cv testing about here now too. Enjoy the beetroot. Ive some malt loaf and jaffa cakes lined up.
Top mileage Macca.
Bloody love beetroot. Was just talking about my love of the juice this morning with my new landlady. Beetroot, carrot, apple, ginger & lemon. Drink of champions.
Good news on the earlier start Cal. Would’ve been dispiriting starting late & watching everyone pull away immediately. You should be towards the front of your wave so a few folk to chase & others snapping at your heels to keep you honest.
I’m with you on the snots AWC been hanging around. Feel ok otherwise though.
Damn shame about my 10K cause my new watch came up with this today:
Just the 10K/5.5K double today - easy effort all round.
Macca - Good final session there. Yeah Hanson's (well my modified version of!).
Cal - Good news on the wave change.
TR - It's my modified Hanson's plan, has 2 sessions a week (Speed/strength and the MP tempo).
SQ - Sorry to hear that, but good to hear you have been ticking over on the bike.
Will get out at lunch for an 8 miler.
AWC...Nice MP and strides. You've a few days to shift the remnants of the cold is right, I'm sure you will. Showing off with 2 marathons in 2 weeks
Steve...Back on it with a bang, class MP, forget about Tuesday and move on. As others have said, you are doing some amount of sessions at the minute, bodes well.
Cal...Glad they have updated your time and your in the wave you wanted, they seem too be quite accommodating as far as i can see. Shake off the disappointment/shock and the motivation will come back, i think you are going to do better on Sunday week than you think. I started my beet shots yesterday too, i quite like the taste of them, cold eat beetroot all day every day.
Macca...Big yearly mileage. I'm sure you were pleased with them mile splits, and rightly so, class. The letter will put things into perspective i'm sure, but still not nice that you should be on your way to Greece, always next year, and it gives you something to look forward to during this s**t show of a year if nothing else. I booked Disney world for the kids as the same thing, something to get us through.
SQ...Glad to hear from you, but not glad to hear what you have to say. Not good at all, but at least you recognised the injury was serious and didn't try and push on and make things worse. Sounds like you are over the worst of it hopefully, and fingers crossed your session goes well...Can't be losing you to the bike
Jools...Shame about the 10k is right, nice to see that on your watch, real confidence boost. I think your going to smash it in 10 days, and will have no bother maintaining that fitness, so no worries there.
6 easiest of the peasiest miles wearing a long sleeve top under my t shirt for the first time this morning...getting cold.
Cal - good news and agree that you’ll have plenty of targets to catch. I hated school beetroots and avoided it for years but tasted it in a whole new light a few years ago when I had them fresh. Still not a big fan of the earthy taste of beetroot juice though.
macca - Hopefully you’ll be there next year. Funny that you’ve come across Sydney Striders, they do the 10k races that I usually run and I’ve just joined them so I can do them. They pace all the local races as well, I have them to thank for my PB last year.
Keep ejecting the snot AWC
Jools - because it has a crap optical hrm, ny gadget is always telling me all sorts of nonsense. It usually has me pencilled in for around 1.30 and 3.10.
Hamo - was defo cold here for running this morning too.
John - i have a long issue with something like osteitis pubis, i had to stop for some months in 2016. Ive managed it well recently but it came back around lockdown, probably more sitting, replacing my neighbours fence and maybe the faster paces.
Im still weather watching, its 40mph + gusting forecast now, ill monitor through the day, but im probably going to do myself a favour and bring my promised post mara downtime forward to tomorrow. Priority 1 was sub 2.55, priority 2 is getting healthier (in the absence of priority 1). Im sure next sunday will be a still day though.