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Steve-Glad you got the wedding sorted,not what you need so close.
10 miles today with 8@MP,my favourite 10 days out final session,4 miles were with a tailwind most of the way and 5-8 with a headwind,splits came out as 6:36(downhill)6:44,44 and 42,then 6:56,55,7:03,6:49 for an average of 6:49,target pace is 6:52 so about right allowing for the first quicker mile
Interesting splits/Hadd HR, are you using a chest strap now?
Cal - that is a peculiar system for start times. Efficient response from the race organisers to amend your start time. I know you don't want to start later but your race time would not be noticed by any other runners as there'll be hundreds of you doing laps and nobody would notice if you weren't doing sub 4 pace. I like early starts too but surprisingly I've run well when doing an afternoon marathon.
Anyway problem sorted so you can relax now.
Ian - great running, didn't take you long to get your speed back.
Steve glad you managed to cut the numbers down, we don’t know how long we’re like this for
Cal glad you managed to switch starts, Will probably see you around the start, I have 2 club mates who are running sub 3 (2:45ish) and have a couple of other friends in the 11am start (aiming 3:40 and 4:00) so will be a good handicap race for me.
Elle entered london landmarks half this year and have came up with a new date 23rd May, this clashes with a local race which I was going to help set up the day before (which I still can) but if LLHM goes ahead then and elle is running I’ll support her. Shame as only entered the race a week ago!
Leisure centres are having a tough time financially. Ours opened with quite short hours, gym shut in the afternoon and limited classes. Gradually they've increased the number of sessions and classes, extended the opening hours, the gym is still closed for a few hours early afternoon. But since the schools have gone back the gym has got a lot quieter, yesterday there was only about 7 or 8 of us. I just looked on the app and all gym sessions have at least 10 spaces left for each slot (max 25). Swimming is more popular and only a couple of spaces left for each session, waiting list for weekend swimming. Some classes are very popular, pilates and cycling particularly. They still have half of their staff furloughed so we'll see what happens in October. Of course although some people are hesitant for health reasons to return to an indoor facility there will be others that may have lost their jobs or their employment/income is uncertain and for many the gym membership would be the first to go when money is tight. There doesn't seem to be any new members joining the gym either and that's always an important stream of income to a gym.
Ian - that is a shame about the Cheshire races, councils getting even more nervous.
No run from me today, my RHR is up to 60, usually 46-49 occasionally up to 52 if I've had a hard gym session the day before. I still don't feel right, like I'm getting a cold. 😷 Not good as I have Goodwood on Sunday, will see how I am tomorrow morning.
https://blog.parkrun.com/uk/2020/09/24/restarting-in-england/
That parkrun news was sadly predictable. That announcement about reopening was so gung-ho. Having said that it’s true that there is little evidence of races being anything but safe when well managed so I’m hoping that as more events like runthroughs are put on over the coming weeks and the government becomes more flexible with restrictions (they will probably have to as this will be with us into next year) that bigger races can take place in the spring. Optimistic I know but I’m desperate for my marathon!
Robert, Young Trotter took the 2 week extra when Wrexham moved, but he’s pulled out because he just doesn’t think it’s going to go ahead with the cases rising. He says his few hard/tempo sessions are where he risks injury the most, and he doesn’t want to keep doing them for a race that he thinks won’t go ahead. He was thinking about Dorney and I did see Jason Cherriman (fastest runner at Dorney, probably around 2:25) is in the race, but YT is hoping for quicker than that and doesn’t want to run on his own, plus he had concerns about potentially congested laps and aid stations slowing him down.
I did see something elsewhere about the Dorney marathon. The organiser has thought about it a lot and he was basically trying to make it that all runners would have some laps with the course to themselves, and give everyone of all abilities a good experience. I think he has probably figured out that runners don’t usually work in minutes though - there are various cases where someone has put 239 (I.E thinking 2hrs39) but he initially had them in the sub-4 group as he’s working in minutes
As for me, no running, but lots of walking and had a great day yesterday over at Lynton and Lynmouth. There’s some great walking there, and in the town we spotted some art we liked so we bought a couple of pictures for our living room. Probably going to head over to Saunton today which is a massive beach, with cafes etc around.
Ian - Sorry to hear about the cancelled 10k. Good final session there.
8 miles planned at lunch time.
I know you are desperate for your marathon. If next year you are having doubts about Brighton going ahead you might have to think about a smaller event perhaps. I hear Bath Half, which is a big Spring race has moved to autumn 2021 now.
Big G - as you know I have little respect for parkrun management so I didn't have another dig at them but I agree that statement was another arrogant waffle. Definitely throwing their toys out of the pram.
Been a tough year for YT, I can understand that he's fed up of doing his latter stages of prep only to once again have his race cancelled, Ian has had exactly the same scenario. YT doesn't need or want to achieve a championship time as he already has that and it's a long way to travel for what could be a disappointing race.
It must be tricky working out a schedule for staggered starts, odd the RO was working in minutes, that would never have crossed my mind.
Sounds like you're having a lovely time, really hilly round there isn't it, so walking is plenty exercise.
Big G, I don't know anyone who works in minutes!
Almost didn't run again today. I woke up early again and was determined to get out by six (if I'm not out within two hours of waking, I find it increasingly hard to motivate myself...the problem becomes that if I leave it too long, I then get hungry, and if I eat, I then have to wait a minimum of another three hours due to my glacially slow digestion). But then I heard heavy rain so I resigned myself to going out later.
Although I had to deal with my willpower, it did work out better that way as it was quite sunny when I did go, although there was a chilly wind so I was glad I'd decided on leggings and arm sleeves. I ran 8 miles averaging 10:30ish pace (or what I like to term "standard easy pace" as opposed to the slower pace I tend to do if it's very early and I'm stiff or if it's dark). The second to last mile was a bit slower but it was uphill and I think I was starting to tire a bit.
There's still some sluggishness in the legs despite doing absolutely nothing yesterday, and QL and achilles are still niggling away. Hopefully another week of tapering will rejuvenate me a bit.
Shades - Hope you're not going down with anything before the race. had a good chat with the memberships department, who were open about they had taken on more clubs for income and needed to cut costs. They have had cancellations and feedback was lack of sessions for female only and family sessions (they are starting women only sessions and family swimming sessions next week) no use for me so less sessions to swim. Asked if they'd honour my introduction rate at £30 a month for 3 months if I paid upfront but said it wasn't an option. I can still use it as payg £4 a swim £6 a gym session or am considering another gym in their chain but have til October to think about it.
Big G, seen on a couple of forums there are a few looking to run around 2:25 pace so could make an interesting race. James has done a great job with the timings, it was advertised to let people go off in small groups fastest first so good he had a rethink also allowing the 6 hour plus runners go first helps, I did look at the lap timing splits and worked out if they'd sent the sub 3 hour runners off half an hour earlier then they would have less overtaking the other mass starts. Overall I am delighted with my wave timing, I don't mind being passed my runners running 6-7 min miles as they'll be out of sight soon enough and with a target of 4:45-5hrs will only be on the last lap that I get overtaken, dependant on how I'm feeling the company could be useful to hang off them for bits.
Rcouture you've had to be very patient for your marathon, when it happens I'm sure it will be worthwhile.
Cal hope another week will freshen the legs, I'm on a sort of reduced taper, main reason for cutting back this week is to avoid injury at all costs. I've got myself kind of ready for next Sunday.
Nipped out for a 3 miles at lunch, nearly ended up in the river as I stopped to help someone moor their boat. Plan an early 10-12 miles tomorrow and marshalling at an ATW race on Sunday. Was confused by parkruns statement saying the hoped to start by end of October. I've not read the latest statement but hasn't come as a surprise.
Shades-Hope you're feeling better,OH is feeling really run down, hoping it is just a bug as I really need to be in work.
Rob-I'm getting less hopeful about Elvington by the day, York cases are rising and areas of Yorkshire are on lockdown,it is a big area but wary of the local council canning it, only consolation is that I am 100% running that day so it won't go to waste this time.
Frist day back today. Always a tough day and they have had a tough week or 2,first panic buying is definitely happening with toilet roll and spaghetti, maybe because we are on local lock down but there are definite warehouse issues. Took a rest day as 11 hours work was enough along with a trip to the tip.
Robert - well at least the gym was honest with you, but you have to find a venue that suits you and what you want to do. Our centre does family swimming sessions, they are popular, but they don't do female only, not sure there's a demand for that.
My brain can't compute who and when runners would be lapped, good for you working that out.
Ian - hope OH is OK, lots of colds going around now kids back at school.
I do hope your race goes ahead. Being an airfield it must be rural and Yorkshire is a big county.
You could do without the extra stress of panic buying, all fuelled by the press and social media. So annoying.
I definitely have a cold, I'm sure it's not Covid. Really sniffly and sneezing now, couldn't get warm this morning, put the heating on and now I am warm. I do feel tired and my legs feel really heavy, I did nothing in the gym yesterday leg wise. Will see how I am in the morning, but I doubt I will go.
Conditions not good for race either, I had been looking at weather for Chichester but further research today shows the wind on the motor circuit is twice that of Chichester's forecast so 25-30 mph NNW wind, that will be cold especially on a route with no shelter.
I will make final decision in the morning, I have bounced back from a cold quickly before.
I see Brighton have cancelled their 'Edit', their unique and safe event
Our response:
So does that mean Table 1 + half marathon evidence guarantees a GFA place?
I think my cold has addled my brain.🤔
ATW have announced another marathon at dorney lake 22nd November. Not sure I’m going to rush to go back so soon after Sunday.
Are you going to do the Bedford race, you mentioned before?
Cal - could be your first double
Had a rotten night, hot, cold, the usual restlessness I get with a cold. RHR still 60 today, legs and hips feel heavy and tired but in myself I feel no worse than yesterday, bit tired, slight headache. I will DNS Goodwood, don't feel I could run to the end of the road right now. Fortunately I have a refundable booking at Travelodge, usually I book a saver room but I thought there was a chance that the race might be cancelled.
https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/event-info/runner-info/virtual-marathon-checklist/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0FE73sM1HYf25PXe4uF4v8nLkkYesBB_UmDWbPr41Z2hsLkvuBFvlpV6g
4 miles easy this morning, 5 yesterday and tempo run on Thursday. With long run tomorrow should bring up about 44miles for the week. I have 3 more weeks to taper, do I need to be upping my mileage that much more from here for this half? I’ve done 3 weeks above 40miles in a row now which for me is the most consistently high ever. I was thinking that given it’s a half it might be more beneficial to focus on upping tempo run length gradually and doing race pace in my long runs every other week rather than going much more above this overall weekly mileage. I feel fine but don’t want to push it and I don’t really have much time in the day left. And do I need to do more than 15 miles for the long run?