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Double track Tuesday.
Lunch: 16x200m in 40” off 50” walk into jog. 4.6M@7:53 with wu & cd
Evening: club 7x3’ with a jog recovery. Recovery started at 3’ but dropped by 30” each time. Arrived late so missed the wu which meant the first effort was compromised. Thereafter got them down to a reasonable pace & consistency.
4.3M@7:13 average.
Bummer Reggie. Don't do too much with the little C. Not worth it.
Superb run SQ, my longest was from here to the in laws in Bedford...23 miles. nearly killed me!
5 x 1 mile tonight at Luton off 90-105 secs recovery. First one 5.30, then a 5.23 and the other 3 just under 5.20. Felt good, so happy with that.
Some nice reps with three below my PB, SC. Good going! Have you run a marathon?
Yes the 'tick off' one, London 2004 in 2.49 (YES I'VE DONE A F**KING MARATHON
Did Berlin in 2015 as I was fed up of my mates going away for marathon weekends, that one was my 2.39. Happy to get under 2.40 to say 'Never again!'
Berlin training was good - that 23 miler was tough, but visited my mate in Edinburgh and did a 20 miler along their marathon course to Musselburgh racecourse and back.
Quite liked summer marathon training - found going into a xc season after a marathon loads better than going into a track season.
Did it last week, and pleased to see £23.80 come back in.
No idea how and why this works, but it's very welcome!
In 2012 I raced Wokingham Half, 19th Feb, 79:34, then Finchley 20, 11th Mar, 2:08:11, then London Marathon, 22nd Apr, 2:50:28. The Finchley 20 was followed by 20 milers on the following 2 Sundays, one our club 20 miler padded with a couple of extra miles and the Sunday after 20 with UltraGregory so training ticked along as usual.
Always amazes me how few people actually race a 20M, but rather view it as an opportunity to practice MP. Maybe race the 20 then add 6.2 at MP
In 2011, I did 1:19:33 at Wokingham, then 2:04:56 at Bramley 20 the following week. I then had a disappointing 2:55:00 at London 7 weeks later, when I was hoping for sub 2:50. Was it residual tiredness from actually racing Bramley, or was it because it was a hot sunny day and I had a pit-stop at 10miles? Or maybe the 22, and two 25s in between were too long/too hard? I'll never know of course!
Ah, nostalgia - it's not what it used to be
spending a week out having my put back out
I remember Moz saying that is the world of running to an absolute tee, high to low!
Bus i'd deffo say stopping in a race probably didn't help
That was race 2 - Burnham HM, hot day, and had taken tonnes of fluid and a few lucozade tablets (!) onboard.
Got to about 10miles, and was glad it was a woody course as had to nip in.
Probably lost a min or so, but the words stinging ring piece have never been more apt.
I did a controlled 20m race in 2.10.5X 6 wks before vlm 2008, which was my first mara, i did 2.52.5X at vlm. But didnt do any other build up races, i rarely do them now.
I crossed paths with phil and purple fairy martin early on in 2012, i was easing off as i felt a bit ropey due to a sinus issue, when they came past, i told them theyd just missed running with Nell McAndrew for a while. I rallied a bit and did 2.51.0X. Nell ran 2.54.
In 2011 i must have been near Bus as i ran a very steady first 10m in 65:XX, the next 10m in 65:XX, was kicking on and decided i could speed up again at 24m, but cramped right up as i tried to speed up, and had to fight my way home in 2.53.0X.
My 2.54 (aged 54) there in 2021 stands up well.
Happy days
Odd how coincidences work: I did a run with about a quarter of a mile next to public roads and Reg did 50 miles on roads and we happen to pass along the only common part at exactly the same time.
Ironically I was out on my gravel bike yesterday which normally means a lot of time off-road but I made the mistake of cleaning it pre-ride so I was reluctant to follow any dirty tracks. I did go through the great park and along the jubilee river but otherwise stuck to the roads.
Anyone taking on Eunice today?
I had today off work so wanted a 10miler with a couple of miles turn of pace in there.
Pretty much achieved it, up 9ish, reasonably quick turnaround on a non work day out at 10.20 ish.
6miles then a 6.17 and a 6.02 the next two miles following with 2miles gentle.
Some really windy stretches, but to be honest felt the same as the worst at Chichester. A bit windy on the 6.17 effort but not much on the 6.02 mile.
Glad to have banked pretty much what the plan was and that's me done until Sunday now.
I see Bramley 10/20 is a huge doubt for tomorrow . Wouldn't mind doing that one year. Maybe the 20 just to bank the distance and just treat it like a long run in company really.
Hard to get the timing right though.
We'll try again tomorrow ...
Running along a track, I could see a guy standing on one side, looking into the trees. He had a small dog which was stood on the far side of the wide track. He spotted me, and grinned, but as I got closer I suddenly realised that his dog was actually on one of those stupid extendable leads - not one of the slightly more sensible hi viz ones, but this was like cheeswire! I actually hit the lead and muttered something like "for christ's sake", he mumbled some sort of apology and I said"if you're going to have one of those stupid leads at least make it one that can be seen!", which he took great offence to, telling me to fuck off, several times. I, of course, was not best pleased about this and gave him something of a lecture! He concluded with another "fuck off", to which I responded, surprisingly calmly, "if you tell me to fuck off one more time I will deck you". He seemed to believe me, as he then went quiet and went off whistling for his second, missing dog!
Long time since I've had one of those! This eleads should definitely not be allowed though!
Nice run mind, though very cold and windy!
I suspected you’d run some marathons, SC. But have to check on this thread 😉. Tend to agree about training in the summer, hot, nice trails under foot, potentially cooler autumn race. Although that said, I’ve got enjoyed embracing the winter in the last few months.
That’s the thing, Bus. With marathons/20M races, it is hard to replicate things too often to actually work out what is best for an individual. And love it - first bit of lairiness I’ve experienced from Bus on the thread. Shit form from the owner. My first tripped in similar circumstances and broke BOTH wrists.
Your 2:54 last October was outstanding, TR. You were very strong that day.
That is impressive to have run 6m/m in those winds, SG - even if you had them behind you for a stretch.
Sounds a painful non-journey, PMJ. Hope you got there ok today.
WFH yesterday which was marginal, given we live in Glos (SW - Red) but work in Worcs (Midlands - Amber). The right decision in the end as there were photos of a tree down on one of the initially minor roads we take.
Headed out at 1430 into the 69mph wind. I know some didn’t find it that bad, but I thought it was mental! Couldn’t move my legs quick enough with the wind behind me, and into a headwind felt like climbing a mountain very slowly. All good fun and something like 8.5M at 8:40s.
Got outside a lunchtime today for a buggy warm up, before then parking up the lad at the parents-in-law. Main set of 6 x 0.5M in 2:57 - 3:00. First speed work in a few weeks. Tailwind, into cross-wind into headwind. So probably about neutral. Felt really good to work hard.
Absolutely knackered since and managed a nap during Postman Pat. 66M Mon-Sat so just a recovery run tomorrow, before a 3h time on feet to kick off half term on Monday.
Must have been an irritating incident to get you on the swears and confrontations
There's nothing quite as likely to trigger such things as risks to your personal safety though.
SQ - I dare say it's a case of how much stuff on your route there is to soak up the worst of the wind, hills, trees, buildings etc. I genuinely didn't find the worst bits of my run any worse than the Chichester 10k worst bits. But that was a fairly extreme wind itself.
However, clearly the overall situation was way worse this week, just probably got fairly lucky with timings and route.
Will do 10 or so tomorrow, to see it in for around 60 for the week.
Am sure it was a lot smoother today!
Hey - I wasn't doing any swearing SG! I was a model of restraint and calmness, which was probably what made my threat to deck the guy all the more powerful - I just felt it appropriate to stop him continuously telling me to fuck off when he was quite clearly in the wrong
Hey ho. A dozen muddy, hilly wet and windy miles today with a fair bit of tree and branch hopping! Quite good fun and made 43M and 5000ft for the week.
10 today, fairly miserable fare. It's funny, you expect Dec and Jan to be fairly cold and soulless, yet it's the middle to end of Feb that's been the worst.
Roll on better times in March, but not the dreaded humidity, and occasional sky high heat
15M today brought the week up to 59 & I still only got to 3,270 feet.
I too had the pleasure of wind, rain & large wooden obstacles across the trails. Only 3: could’ve been a lot worse.
Parkrun/XC double yesterday. 8th (of 250) at Pomphrey Hill, Bristol but then reminded of my true running stature with 194th (of 314) in the Gwent League at Blaise Castle, Bristol. Only just managed to average sub8 for the latter due to mud/wind/crapness 😆 I was faster on this course in 2015 when it was hillier & longer and I’d already done the Dursley Dozen that morning! I did manage 2nd scorer for the club but probably should’ve been 20-30 places higher.
Worked out fine in the end. Friday was more about the other silly buggers on the road: if you are driving a car in high winds then it becomes undrivable long before it becomes dangerous due to being blown over but the headline-making "high sided vehicles" can end up on their backs fairly easily but the demand for goods etc means they have to take the risk.
10 miles yesterday, mostly footpaths and mostly wooded and there were just 2 fallen trees to negotiate. Seems there must have been chainsaw gangs out on Saturday as there were a lot of paths showing evidence of removal. Worst part was right on the edge of Coombe Hill where my route took me along the grassy side of the escarpment so no shelter, no grip and high winds. Struggled to hit walking pace!