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Also, from what I have read, the strap is a great help but not a complete solution. Stretching and icing are also important.
Lie down and eat doughnuts for a couple of weeks - call it carbo loading...
its not sore now but only after a couple of miles of running it starts,feels fine now,
like your attitude to carbo loading, any way
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i am really worried that this is going to effect my marathon peformance,
i have been training since august for it so you can imagine,how frustrating it is,
i done last years marathon in 5-33 so you can see how hard i have had to work to get under 3.45- 3-50 ,(doesnt your heart bleed for me)
sweep must take action,
pattstrapp ordered
massage booked for friday
ice on the go- stretching in progress,
watch out radcliffe sweeps right behind you!
I know how you feel, my knee was buggered for the best part of last year & I really got frustrated at first, but then I made a concious decision to use the time more productively in other ways (did a lot of reading & learning)
The way I would try to look at it is this, you may not hit your target this year but if you don't rest it properly, you may not hit next year too.
Try & sit back, chill out & drink beer, its better for the carbo loading than donuts anyday ;-)
atb
Nick
I'm pretty banged up at the mo too sweep. Lots of little things and ITBS. Still not quite fully recovered from 9 miles on monday. I'd say rest up a while but would find the advice hard to take in your situation. So listen to the others, never me.
Just got my pattstrap. Have actually worn it all day. Only ran 3 easy miles in it yesterday so too early to tell if its effective. Speed tomorrow, will report back then.
Have decided to buy myself some new shoes. What works for all you guys? I have some Asics DS-Trainers which I dare not use as I now know I overpronate. Also Have Asics GT-2090 which can't get on with and Adidas Supernova Controls which are fine. So I only really have one pair of shoes I use. I have been tempted by Nike Air Perseus and Mizuno Wave Mavericks as they offer some stability but are quite light.
lata
Euph
Nick
one-go how long did you have problems with your I.T.bands
let me explain my progress for those interested
3 weeks ago
slight twinge
then seemed to go away
2 weeks ago
headed out for 12 miler after 6 miles decided to stop, due to uncomfaable feeling
then rested for a week
with stretching and ice treatment
last sunday
came back went out, after 4 miles started to feel it a bit then stopped straight away,
but started to feel little pangs, when i started to walk back
nearly a week on i don not feel any pain or pangs, been stretching and iceing and got sports massage on fri, do you guys know any idea when i could think about getting out there again
one-go i am intersested to hear how long you were out,i belive i have a prob but i do not think it is major
thanks for all you advice guys,
if you want any advice on barbering techniqes, am you man
either in
liverpool
or
silverstone
i think i will do the liverpool one as the start is about 5 mins from my place,
A few days later I ran again and got slight pain.
Then I ran a long run, felt nothing but when I stopped it felt v sore.
Got a tip as to what it might be from Colin D on this thread and researched it like mad on the internet.
Got a Patt Strap, new trainers, iced and stretched. Also booked a physio appointment but, after resting a couple of days, never felt it again!
I reckon it was down to the fact I was running in old shoes (the outside of the heel on both sides wears out quite quickly) - I am also v much a one-sided runner (if such a thing exists!) as I tend to suffer nipple rub only on my left hand side!
No halfs for me except, probably, Fleet in March...
Detox - I wear New Balance or Saucony shoes as I've got on well with them. I've had 5 pairs of NB 764's in a row and I bought a pair of new 765's at Xmas. I always keep two pairs of running shoes on the go and swap between runs. I keep a spreadsheet on my shoe mileage and I always change shoes after 300-400 miles. If I get a niggle it's often a sign my shoes are too worn.
I did a fast session last night with 7 miles in 54 minutes. Today was a rest day to allow my body some recovery then it's easy 4-5 miles tomorrow and 12 miler on Friday.
Take it easy Sweep, sorry about your woes.
PPB.
aarrrr one side it makes sense now
my girlfreind got me new trainers, for christmas it only occured to me before that i could have something to do with them, going to stop wearing them my other ones are only 3 months old so am going back to them,
its worth a try,
thanks for the feed back guys ,ist really appreciated
i bet you now it wont be one-go, one-go
i was a over weight smoker last year never run over a mile in my life,
i am now a overweight non-smoker who has ran enough miles to last me a life time
i well and truly have been bitten by the running bug, and i bet you do too.
My shoes also wear out a bit more on the inside right foot. I think concentrating on form and just generally getting stronger has helped me out. Did wonder at one point if I had one leg longer than the other! Even now on a long run, I feel myself stretching out the left leg with a few extra long strides every now and again feels like it's doing some good.
No trouble with the nipples though
Euph.. Saucony Grid Omni 4's for me, with additional sorbothane insoles!
Sweep.. apologies, but as for barbering techniques, I lost the requirement for that area of grooming some years back.
Its as if my left is my power foot, and my right is precision.
Did speed session today, pushed for time though so only did two of three planned 1.5m intervals, 10:50 and 11:02, tiring but don't feel too bad right now. First run of any distance in pattstrap.
PPB - I went quite a long way passed 500 miles in my last pair of trainers, and didn't really share the workload with other trainers much. Didn't get rid till after last years GNR when the outsides of my feet became quite bruised and sore. They're only good for gardening now - and I don't garden. I think I've learnt that lesson.
Resisted urge to buy new shoes in the end. I'm going to wait till after my 10 mile race on the 30th and call it my prize.
lata
Euph
Hope these wretched miles pay off come April 17th!
When I first started running nearly 8 years ago got bad pains on the shins and uneven aches and pains on knees and legs. after one duff physio who only wanted to plug his latest in-soles, found a really good place. After watching me run they told me my problem was because one side was stronger than the other plus although i did some stretches i was missing out some, especially under the sole of my feet funny enough. Anyway after a month or so of exercises and stretches (plus a lot more off road) i was fine and have never suffered from any injuries since (touch wood)
Can't run until monday as off to visit family down south tomorrow so will have to endure more withdrawal symptoms. Apart from 2 skiing holidays this will be the longest i have not run for about 7 years.
ah well have a good weekend everyone , good running and no injuries, chat to you next week.
cheers
pete
I couldn't have done 16.7 more miles like that for sure - but then again I had had a very hard run the day before! Thank god for tapering, but as you say tg, the midweek sequence is v tough (almost matched by the tough weekend sequence!).
Going to enjoy my day off today!
It's been a bit of a bad week for me, with some sad news as far as my running is concerned.
I first felt a pain in my right quad last Thursday after a track session, so rested Friday. Went for a flat 5 miler on Saturday, the leg wasn't really painful, but on Sunday I could only manage to hobble and limp around. I managed to get an appointemnt with my physio on Monday evening, who poked, prodded, stretched and strained the quad, but there was nothing wrong with it. After quite a few more tests (including ultra-sound), she decided that it was looking more and more likely to be a stress fracture of the femur.
The following day I went to my doctor (with a letter of referal from physio), who agreed that it needed to be examined and sent me for an x-ray straight away. I won't have the results until next Thursday and if nothing shows, then I will be referred for a bone scan, which will hopefully identify the sight of the injury. I have come around to thinking that it is likely to be a stress fracture, as it fits the bill from what I have read up on and also everything else has now been eliminated. I have never had pain like this with muscular/tendon injuries and it feel very different.
So where does that leave me? Well, walking causes some mild discomfort and more than 5 or 6 steps running is impossible. It means I can only swim and cycle for 8 weeks, then depending where the fracture is and how bad, dictates how soon I can come back to running, but hopefully not much longer than this. If it is the neck of the femur, it could require an operation, but this is only if it is a bit more severe, however, the scan or x-ray will reveal more.
Race wise, it has taken me out of the London Marathon, the rest of the XC season for my club and also all the other Half Marathons and races I'd entered as training events for FLM. In essence, I will not be running again until late March (all being well), so as you can see, there is no way I could train for a marathon in April and I have to be realistic.
After being very depressed, upset and thinking the world is going to end, I now realise it is not. I am cycling 4 days a week and swimming 2 days (thankfully I am a fairly strong swimmer, so will get some good cardio-vascular exercise from this). By the time I recover fully and get back to where I am now, we will be going into the Track & Field season at the beginning of May, so I have my sights set on that for my come-back and will be very determined.
I hope I haven't dampened anyone's spirits, but I will be on the side lines at FLM cheering on all my fellow club runners and you lot of course! I will still be on the thread too to let you know how my recovery is going. I am much more positive now and WILL be back to full fitness, hopefully ahead of schedule.
Cheers
Sarah :0)
Euph