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Staying positive.............
I think your time for the Oakley was good, I was surprised how hilly it was. I think those undulations added a couple of miles worth of effort compared to the relative flat of the flm course! I'm planning a long slow 22 next week also. Roll on the tapering.
The soreness could be a feeling like tendonitis....know what I mean? Probably from overuse during the race.
Any sugestions? Stretching, massaging? running?
Following the RW sub 4, and have been doing quite well for a first timer.
Did my 19 miler on Sunday, and now have what I believe to be Shin Splints in the left leg. It was there slightly before, during the week, (noticable during other sessions)and when warm caused no problem.
However yesterday and today have been most uncomfortable, and I'm actually hobbling when I first stand up and start to walk, let alone run. Although it is getting better as time passes from the end of the 19 miler.
Have checked the injuries section of site, this seems to fit my ailment, and will continue to RICE.
We are obviuosly at an important stage, and people talk about getting in the really long runs, and X amount of long ones totaling 100 miles etc....
Will it matter if I miss a few sessions this week, and what about my 22 miler on Sunday?
Start to Taper now?(what ever it exactly means to taper?)
Any advice would be appreciated,
Jenks (Other)
Your more likely to suffer during the FLM through injury than through missing a long run. If you have already got a good foundation of fitness behind you then dealing with the injury is more important. Fitness will stay with you up to 8 weeks after training stops. Taper just means reducing the training milage towards race day. Most FLM runners should start this next week.My plan was to run 20 or 22 miles this Sunday, then 12 the following Sunday followed by 7 the Sunday before the FLM.
Keep the RICE up and (dont worry too much about missing a few training runs) you should still be ok. Best of luck.
So for anyone who isn't currently doing regular 16/18 mile runs do not despair.
That was a great time on your 20 miler by the way - you will be in great shape for the FLM.
I'm planning my last 20 miler prior to the big day on Thursday, so we'll see how it goes. I'm trying to remain relaxed about the whole 4hr thing and just focus on the fact that four months ago I would I fallen off my chair in hysterics at the thought of telling anyone I could run 20 miles without a break! Training has been a tough experience - but I'm really glad I've stuck it out as the big day approaches...see you ono the start line!
The problem with the FLM is that if you need to empty your bladder during the race you have to run quite few miles until there is anywhere to go. Quite late on during the 2000 FLM i needed to go and tried literally to go on the run, i think there is some physiological reason you can not do it. I read that Tour de France riders can do it by holding out one of thier legs like a dog, may be i will pracitice this technique on my last long training run? Of course this technique may not work for females.
I've never managed to find an article on this problem so i would be interested in anyone elses views. If you do have a bladder problem going up the Mall then urine trouble for certain. Liz will no be amused!
We have a lot in common!! At last I feel in shape for the big day, I did 14 miles about 4-6 weeks ago and thought am I flippin real thinking i can do this!! But I've stuck to it and after my 18 and 20 mile runs I am muched more confident that I will finish and although I'd like 3.59.59 it is no big deal if it goes over. I'll be more than proud to stand on the start line having put up with 4 months hard work. This run to me is about setting a goal and having the inner belief, desire, and determination achieve that goal. So come on let's all get positive - it will soon be here.
You have really added some great stuff on here and you certainly have cheered me up. I'm sure the Queen won't mind dazza having a slash on her daffodils if he's desparate!!
One of the positive things about marathon training is how great the short runs feel. I did a 5 miler last night and felt it was like a sprint...i was running along the sea front at Southsea like a man possesed, i felt like i was 21 again (infact i am 43 later this year), this i thought, is why i run.
I went to a podiatrist and have been wearing motion control shoes with custom orthosis for just over three years now and no longer have the shin pain.
I found that ibuprophen gel and a tight elastic tube bandege helped ease the pain.
There is hope, don't despair
Still feeling a little stiff after the 20 miles on Sunday. Managed 5 miles fartlek this morning - not too bad. I don't know if this is biologically possible but my bladder felt less full after 20M than after 10M!?
2 days rest after 20 on Sunday, up at 6.30 for a 7.5 miler hilly job. Felt fantastic like you Superman. This is a regular course for me and I did it in 1.02.47 personal best by nearly 3 minutes did the last two miles in 6.59 and 7.19. This is why I run, I've never flet as fit in 32 years....
I was feeling depressed after my slow 20 miler on Saturday until Jenks reassured me it was at the right pace.
Since then I have got my confidence back. Last night at training we did speedwork on hills - 6 laps. I was really pleased because I beat people who were much faster than me at the start of the year. I also feel fitter than ever. My husband says I look trimmer than I was previously and a girl at the club asked if I'd lost weight! (I'm only light anyway but this side effect of training is welcome!)
I'm on a high at the moment, roll on FLM it will be great. Not long to go everyone, final big effort!
isn't runners high great!!
Calling all experienced flm runners, what happens after the race in terms of celebrating or is it cold bath and bed because of exhausion? Do people plan to go home after or stay overnight?
I did my first ever 20 miler on Sunday and was a wee bit dissapointed at the time of 3.12 (tried to keep a regular 9min pace). But after thinking about it, I was running myself and got held up a few times at traffic lights and road works.
I ran with water for the first 10 miles then picked up a Lucozade Orange packet I had hidden at 12 miles...very surprised how refreshing it was.
After the run my legs were knackered, but I was amazed to find that on Monday I just felt a wee bit tired and now they feel really good.
I am running for a charity so I don't know where I will start from and have never ran a marathon before....but would like to try for the 4hr mark.
Welcome to a great thread. I also did a 20 miler on Sunday at a slightly quicker time (3.06) with no road works etc! I felt tired Sunday pm and also most of Monday and rested Tuesdayas well but I was flying this morning and am looking forward to 22 miles on Sunday!! (Am i mad?) Also my first time and I am aiming for 4 ish. Can't wait feel great.
After the FLM i am going back to my sisters house were she will ply me with loads of TLC and alchohol, i probably wont even remember the drive home after, (by the way my wife will be driving) I know my legs will stiffen alot the next day but rather than sit around i would suggest a good 15 mile fartlek on a hilly course (sorry only joking)a walk down to the shops will help, and dont run for a week, just enjoy what you have achieved.
By a total freak I just found out that the hotel i'm staying in (i'm coming down from Scotland)is on the race route, nearly at the 14/22 mile marker....all my wife and kids have to do is walk out say hello and go back into the hotel.
By the way do some of you really have these cold baths after training? How cold is cold & do they help?
Cold baths:....I know a few people who have tried this and swear it works....I'm a hot bath man myself (too old to change my habits now).
I put the cold tap on full and run it until it is waist deep and you can submerge your legs fully. I have a shower attachment running on hot as I get in and sprinkle it over the top part of my body (this makes my brain think i'm getting in a warm bath - trust me it works). I submerge into the bath with my toes sticking out of the water. I then run a little more cold water to take into account the hot I've put in. I sit there for 20 minutes. After 3/4 minutes you get used to this madness. I don't put ice in. I then get out and have a warm shower for 2 minutes. The cold gets rid of the lactic acid and the next day I'm only slightly stiff after a long run. I only do it after long runs. You get used to it trust me.