speeding convictions

[Deleted User] · May 2003

hi i hope everyone's well and enjoying their running, i was wondering how many points you can have on ur driving licence b4 getting DQ'd. this isn't related to running much, i know, apart from the fact that i was travelling to a race in another county when i was caught on camera doing 34mph in a 30mph zone. this was in lancashire, they have lots of speed cameras there.

i now have 6 pts on my licence (3pts from another minor offence)and am driving really carefully wherever i go (which i guess i should anyway). so does anyone know anything about the rules? any info much appreciated.

fat face · May 2003

12 points I think

[Deleted User] · May 2003

your allowed 12 providing you have been driving for longer than 2 years but i htink that means your allowed 11 and dsql on 12

Nessie · May 2003

I think it's 12 SS.

Take it easy!

[Deleted User] · May 2003

It's 12 and you're out (for a year, I think?).

popsider · May 2003

They only count for 3 years though.

fat face · May 2003

34 in a 30 does seem a little harsh. I had heard that the generally accepted amount over the limit went something like:-

35 in a 30
46 in a 40
57 in a 50
68 in a 60
79 in a 70.

Read a good 'un in the paper today about a Leeds Utd footballer who has just been done for drink driving. Seems the police caught him getting out of his car outside his house after some of his colleagues had phoned the police when they saw his car in the city centre and they wanted to check that it wasn't stolen. Sounds like they were letting the police know that he was DD'ing to me. Serves him right. Tee Hee.

The Road Runner · May 2003

How do I avoid the speed cameras travelling between Belfast and London?

[Deleted User] · May 2003

thanks for that, i thought it was like 5 for some reason, and was dreading sending off my licence for the 2nd time! i'm sure i wont amass that many points in 3 years!

The Road Runner · May 2003

o, and do i need to inform the council that i'm travelling into london on the motorbike?

[Deleted User] · May 2003

No, RR, but you may need to inform the coastgaurd.

Goo5e · May 2003

Get caught doing 100 on the motorway and you wont have to worry about the points, instant ban.
Yes ban on 12 points, but banned for how long ? think you will find that is decided by the court, only drink driving is a year by default

[Deleted User] · May 2003

I don't think there is an accepted amount over the limit (otherwise that would be the limit). It's discretionary if it gets to the point of police/court involvement and you can mitigate to a certain extent UNLESS it's 20 over any limit then you'll be banned automatically. Take heart though, most cameras don't have film in them and are often forgotten when it comes to reloading the film unless in a real black spot. It's definitely 12 points, by the way, on a totting up system and various points carry forward so if you have some which are 2 years old and some fresh ones, beware the fresh ones coz they'll obviously stick around longer.

[Deleted User] · May 2003

How do they catch you on the motorway? Do the police have to follow you for a while or are there cameras on any motorways?

The Road Runner · May 2003

though do i need to register with london council to take my motorbike in???

[Deleted User] · May 2003

Oh and 12 month DD ban is a minimum (reduced by 25% if you attend DD rehab course), it's up to 2 years if you're way over and the magistrates have discretion to send you down in various circumstances.

fat face · May 2003

There's cameras on some m/ways but otherwise the police have to follow you for certain distance in a car with a calibrated speedo or one with all the clever gadgetry for measuring other car's speeds.

Goo5e · May 2003

RR
if you are talking about congestion charging no, bikes are free

[Deleted User] · May 2003

So basically as long as you keep your wits about you you're OK? Are all police cars on mways marked?

[Deleted User] · May 2003

they were talking about having cameras on bridges which matched up your reg'n so that even if you slowed down before the cams it would be your average speed between the cams that got you in trubs. big brother or what... think it was too pricey in the end.

Goo5e · May 2003

There is a simple solution to this problem of not getting caught speeding --- dont speed, problem is my bike dont know the meaning of that

The Road Runner · May 2003

all traffic cars should be marked BR

[Deleted User] · May 2003

I always though they gave you 10%+/- on the speed limit because cars are not 100% accurate and as you get faster the speedo becomes more inaccurate.

So 33mph in a 30 is Ok as long as you're speedo is correct or reading under

There is always at least 1 police car on the A1 between leeds and durham. They have speed guns but I think they can use the camera vans (new to me but I think they are a NE thing).

Simple answer - don't speed! It's one of those things that bugs me. I don't care about motorways but anywhere where the are cyclists, runners, horseriders then speeding really p!sses me off. I'm a reluctant car driver would much prefer to comute another way if it didn't take me all day.

Watch me get caught speeding tonight

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[Deleted User] · May 2003

Mmm maybe. Dodgy speedo won't get you anywhere the polizei though, coz you shoulda fixed it. Same with brake lights, tyre tread etc.

The Road Runner · May 2003

Solution for bikers - before speeding, flick the switch!

[Deleted User] · May 2003

I've just had notification of my first-ever speeding conviction - three points and a fixed fine for doing 40 in a 30 zone. It's a soft one - the 30 zone was a "village" consisting of half a dozen houses either side of the A5 in Buckinghamshire plus the live gatso which clocked me at an unearthly hour - but I've been "lucky" on numerous other occasions so can't complain.

Maybe my ancient Micra which does 60mph tops will have a bit of cred now.

[Deleted User] · May 2003

I was running roadside by rush hour traffic this morning, generally getting round faster than the cars... dunno if I enjoyed people grimacing at me or not... certainly didn't enjoy their fumes. new route on monday i think !

The Road Runner · May 2003

would it not just be so much easier if u found someone who had the same car as u and u had plates made up with their number on ur car so u could go as hard as u want with no fines, points, etc..........

[Deleted User] · May 2003

it's already been done road runner.. regularly.. and a good one for congestion charging too

[Deleted User] · May 2003

I feel I must give the definitive answers.

12 points is disqualification (apart from a driver with less than 2 years experience when it is 6 points). You can only be disqualified by the court who will "invite" you along.

There is no fixed leeway. The limit in a 20 is 20, 30 is 30 etc. Yes a speedo has to accurate within +/- 10% but that is only mitigation.

Points stay visible on your licence for four years and are counted for three.

To put false plates on your car to avoid traffic enforcement carries a maximum sentence of LIFE IMPRISONMENT! A custodial sentence is usual. The automatic camera systems are augmented by people remember, who can track routes and habits.

The new digital cameras do not use a film so are running all the time.

There is a significantly greater chance of survival for pedestrians hit by a car travelling at 30 rather than 33. Think about it. And, yes, you do get pedestrians on quiet country lanes in the small hours. I think these points may have been overlooked.

I find it easier to stick to the MAXIMUM speed limits.

The Road Runner · May 2003

yeah, good poin.............nahhhhhh! I think i'll go and get the pneumatic lever fitted to the plate on my bike, or go for the cheap option and make a string-pulley system.........

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