Just a quick post to say that I was given one of the new Garmin Forerunner 610 watches to review and have posted my first impressions on my blog.
In summary, once you get used to the touch screen interface the watch is much easier to navigate then the old FR 405 and 410 models and can be operated without any problems when either wearing gloves or when it is raining.
I tested the forerunner last weekend during a Half IronMan triathlon that I took part in and really like the way that you can switch between running and cycling mode with one click of a button. During the race I relied heavily on the the distance alerts to remind me when I needed to take on nutrition and also tied it into my bike cadence sensor to make sure that I want exerting my legs to much before the run section of the race.
The watch is very quick to lock onto a GPS signal and the figures that are reported seem match up to the other Forerunners that I have run with, so no problems there. There is a bug in the current firmware release that causes the GPS accuracy to fall when you use lap/split, but hopefully Garmin will be releasing a fix to this soon.
Full review here:
Forerunner 610 Review
Comments
can be used for swimming but GPS and HRM wont work
You also can't download courses with the 610. Here's a review by dcrainmaker
I'd bet an upgrade to the 310xt comes out this year.
You can change the battery yourself Bob. The battery is a standard one sold in Sainsbury's for a couple of quid. All you need is a small screwdriver which you can pick up in a cheap hardware store.Just make sure you don't lose the ring inside the watch and change the battery on a white sheet so you don't lose the little screws.
Thanks Ninja.
Why do jewellers worry so much about pressure then - is that only relevant for people using in water, or is it another con ?
I think some watches need to have a pressure-seal like Fossil. It's to apparently keep out the moisture and particles so nothing affects the mechanics.
DC Rainer also confirms this.
sorry, just read the manual again. Previous page has a note saying not suitable for swimming, 1m for 30mins
what are garmin doing
I can be running for 3hours in the rain so if theres a choice of this or a rival thats fully waterproof....
Generally when the battery is changed on a waterproof watch the seals should be checked and usually changed. Then if it is an expensive watch they usually pressure test it and guarantee that it will be waterproof for a year. That's why it costs a lot (£50 for my Tag).
Can I ask iof the touch screen can be "locked" to avoid unwanted operation if for example being worn as a normal watch?
i.e. if I try to wipe off a smudge on the glass will it operate the watch?
What I'm trying to ascertain is that the watch can be used as a normal watch without too much mucking about?
If the "power save" could be selected manually and stays on until de-selected then that would (IMHO) make sense.
Do I have to just select the "time" display and then wait for the pre-set power save time to elapse before daring to touch the screen?
Can I immediatley disable GPS function manually or as above, wait for the auto lock to kick in?
I presume the same questions would apply to the 210 also, minus the touch screen issue of course?
The watch is much more wearable day to day than the 405. So much so that if I am planning a run at lunch time while in the office, I ditch my Panerai and wear the Garmin all day! Battery life has also been excellent with the watch lasting for a full week on a charge; and thats with 5 hours plus of training with HR monitor.
I can also download all of the RW training plans from Garmin Training Centre as with the 405.
Andy,
Ive got the "brick on the wrist" garmin 305 and its working really well but I am a bit of a gadget freak and im tempted with the 610. Im curious as to how youve managed to download the garmin schedules because it doesnt list the 610. Im training for the liverpool marathon and im well into a 16 week programme. Ps is it really as good as it looks ??????
I agree that the RW schedules do not list the 610, but if you check the Garmin website you will see that the 610 is compatible with Garmin Training Centre (GTC). And, GTC is where all of the RW training schedules get pushed for download to the compatible Garmin devices!
So, it all works perfectly.
I am really happy with the 610. Bottom line is that it has no more capability than the 405, but the way it delivers the capability makes it functionally a much better package. And it looks so much better!
I gather the GPS accuracy problems have been sorted by the latest firmware update.
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2011/06/garmin-fr610-accuracy-firmware-fix.html
I`m very tempted but can`t quite justify the expense (tho I`m sure I`ll think of something).
One question: if you run with a footpod - will the device automatically switch to footpod if you lose GPS signal (and then auto swith back to GPS with the return of satellite signal) ?
According to a webpage I read somewhere, it switches to footpod estimation if the GPS speed drops to zero (e.g., in a tunnel) but the footpod is still registering. On that basis I ordered a footpod for my 310XT because I have a marathon coming up with short underpass and tunnel stretches and I hate my distance getting out of sync with reality!
I've been happily using a 310XT until recently I noticed that the case around each side of one of the strap pins had cracked and the strap was in danger of falling off. i put a drop of Araldite on each crack and it has held for a few weeks now.
But my question is: should I get another 310XT when it fails, or try the 610? I don't need the waterproof and multisport functions of the 310 really, apart from skiing, and I can code that after in Training Centre. I'd like a bigger and more readable display without reading glasses, also for dark winter runs. the 610 might give a slight improvement, even though the total display size is smaller. But OTOH the battery life is shorter for the 610, not enough for some ultras (which I might try one day).
Andy
I upgraded to 610 when my 405 stopped working - battery problem that sotware update does not seem to fix.
I cannot get my laptop/TrainingCentre to add the new device.
Did you have any problems adding the 610?
Thanks
David