Ive used the Torq gels in the past and have seemed to get on OK with them, but havent used any other makes to compare them against.
RW mag did a short review on gels (May 2011) and gave the Torq gel the lowest rating out of the 4 on test, albeit the negative comment was about the taste and cost rather than performance.
Forgetting the taste/cost thing, for off road, hilly, runs of up to 50 miles in the UK, are there better gels out there ? If so, what and more importantly why ?
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And what one person loves - another one hates ? I've used High5 for years and am very happy with them, but everyones different - I think you need to try them for yourself.
Ive looked at the whole fructose / glucose / maltodextrin / isotronic / electrolyte thing, but being honest, didnt really understand it all.
I guess my question should have said "Do certain gels use ingredients which make them better suited to long/slower runs (ie a slower/more sustained release) than others, which may be suited more to a quick/intense burst of energy.
If you've used Torq and get on with them, presumably including the flavour, why change because someone marks them down because of the flavour?
I find Torq's flavours a bit strong and therefore prefer SIS.
SIS all the way.
Even the reps for their competitors privately admit that they are the most effective.
All the gels I've tried use "sugars" (for want of a better word) as their carbohydrate source. Fructose can be absorbed/digested at the same time as glucose/maltodextrin which is why some manufacturers use it. It can cause some people stomach upsets.
The isotonic thing aids digestion- theoretically the isotonic gloop is at the optimum concentration level to be most rapidly absorbed through the gut. A more concentrated solution will be digested, just more slowly (if I understood the arguments correctly).
Electrolytes=salts, trying to replace those which you may lose through sweat. May prevent cramping, although I have read articles that say cramping is independant of electrolyte levels.
Thats interesting (Hillheader). Ive walked 50 milers on which Ive taken "real" food, but Ive never run this kind of distance.
Im training for a 50 mile run later in the year, but so far havent run more than 26. I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that Id just take gels with me as it would be hard to digest "real" food on such a long run.
What food would you suggest taking as well as the gels ?
PS - thanks FerrousFerrett for the breakdown of the scientific stuff - makes sense.
I've run 2 ultras and 2 marathons this year and previously races up to 100 miles. On a supported ultra I get custard, fresh fruit, tinned pears, rice pudding, cold pizza, and soup along with the usual bars and gels + jaffa cakes! However I've noticed that there is a huge variety of different tastes out there and I've seen plenty of weird stuff - weetabix, fried sausages, marmite sandwiches etc. What works at 20 miles doesn't necessarily work at 50. If you are supported go for variety and take lots of different things. You never know what you might feel like and the weather makes a huge difference. To drink I like fruit juice, nuun tablets, skimmed milk and the occassional energy drink (never the same one in a row!). If you have drop bags on a hot day, it can be very tough. Jaffa cakes don't work for a start!
Eat early, eat a little at a time and eat often.
best of luck!
Because all the gels are slightly diff in ingredients it might be best to have a few diff ones so you get the best of all but also sometimes too many can cause probs so if u have a few varieties hopefully u won't be od- ing too much on an ingredient which upsets your stomach
For electrolytes I use elite electrolyte, you can either take tablets or put drops in water, it tastes of nothing. Never have prob with cramps
If I do have gels then I tend to go for high 5 as they are cheap ! Aceel do some with protein in which is meant to extend endurance. Have bought a couple but not tried them
Elite Ironman, Ultra Trail Runner
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Yeah, that's what you'd think, but in practice it doesn't really work like that. The longer you run, the slower you'll be going overall, therefore you're more able to digest 'real' foods on-the-go, and will get more benefit from eating some fat and some protein as well as just carbs in goopy syrup form.
I've marshaled at quite a few ultras now and love checking out what people put in their drop bags. Jam sandwiches, salty crisps, pots of rice pudding, jelly babies, peanuts, flapjacks and flat coke seem to be the most common things but I've also seen scotch eggs, sausage rolls, pork pies, cold pizza and big slices of cheesecake.
The fastest runners do tend to use gels and pre-mixed drinks more than real food, probably cause even on a 100 mile run they're still going fast enough that digesting solid food would be a problem. But if you're going more at an amble than a dash, you should be okay with all sorts of nibbles. You just have to train your stomach to digest food while running, and use your long runs to figure out just what you can and can't handle, as it varies wildly from person to person. Some people take years to get their ultra nutrition sorted out, some people have tougher stomachs and get the hang of it quite easily.
Just whatever you do don't wait till race day to try out anything new as if you do, it'll almost certainly come shooting straight back out of one end or another a lot faster than you were expecting it to!
They are not my favorite flavour-wise but they serve a purpose (good cal:weight ratio, and cheap) and I can stomach any gel - maxim 100g
I do like the taste of the zipvits though, partic cherry coke and banana. They are also quite concentrated with a decent ratio
Elite Ironman, Ultra Trail Runner
From my experience in doing ultra marathons energy gels are good for a quick boost before you go up a hill but your BSM Blood Sugar Level will whatbwe call SPIKE, so basically your sugar level will go up very quickly and then go back down very quickly so that means you'll need to be taking an energy gel approximateRy every 15 mins otherwise you'll feel weak.
Energy gels are a high GI ( Glaecemic Indehey supplement, you'll need a slow release Energy so a low GI something like a flap jack is really good, your breakfast for your meal before the event needs the contain a lot of low GI plenty of green plenty of iron and salt but not too much as you'll overload on water too. If your doing consecutive ultra marathons then you need to be thinking about after too, your body will need approx 40g of protein and 50 calories immediately after so an energy gel and protein bar would be good, for the first 3 hours after your body will be in need of Higj GI foods then start thinking about your greens 3 hours after that, your meaty food are not paramount only for protein unless you have protein shakes if thata the caas then just greens and nuts and a porridge and beabe on granery toast will be perfect for another day. Hope this helps
You should try Extreme Ultra Fuel ,designed for endurance, and comes in 5 flavours.