Everythings expensive. From running socks upward. That includes running shoes. I like the idea of Nikeid, I keep playing but can't afford the end result. It's the sales for me.
Bikes are expensive and all the bits that you find out you need.
But it's not just cost, it's cost per wear that counts, doesn't it? a £30 pair of shoes that fall apart in 3 months is poorer value than a £90 pair that last a year. I'll perfectly happily pay for something that I think will last and be used beyond the life of the cheaper version. it's about getting my money's worth in the long run.
I'm not sure I'd want a pool though - not even mickey mouse ears
But it's not just cost, it's cost per wear that counts, doesn't it?
But that would make it justifiably expensive then, wouldn't it?
To me, we're talking about the sort of shiny things that fall way into the realms of diminishing returns, compared to how much they cost. Cycling equipment is classic for this. I paid £1k for my bike, which some people thing is a silly amount of money already but as Richard's illustrated above, it really isn't difficult to spend a small family car budget on a bike that most definitely won't make you 9 times faster.
It might be my age but I still hanker for the golden age of bike design when they were all made from skinny steel tubes beautifully welded together. My favourite (apart from my Ron Cooper Columbus SL which was custom made for me 25 years ago and recently got a refurb) is probably the Cinelli Laser. One of these in original condition would cost a small fortune now.
But it's not just cost, it's cost per wear that counts, doesn't it? a £30 pair of shoes that fall apart in 3 months is poorer value than a £90 pair that last a year.
I've got a pair of boots I paid over £100 for at least ten years ago. I don't wear them very often, but I think I've had my money's worth
I'm probably biased but since you mention it, I reckon Ron Cooper does lugs very nicely indeed. This was built for me in 1987 when I was 15 and I treated it to a facelift and modern components (except original seatpost and handlebars/quill stem) earlier this year. Yet to get more than 50 miles on it because I daren't take it out in the rain. Dammit!
Back in the day it was actually blue and white in a classic 80s style fade. But now it's officially Ferrari Red / Gios Blue, to go with the Italian tubing. (And my club colours.)
You can listen to an interview with the man who built your bike.
and heres a site I know you will appreiciate if you dont already know about it hours and hours of people just wittering on about bikes and riding them.
Cheers. I've heard the Ron interview before but you've just reminded me that he built my bike the same year Stephen Roche won the Tour (best cycling TV memories ever...), the Giro and the world champs - on a beautiful Battaglin. I should've copied the paintjob!
As it happens, in the process of getting the bike spruced up, I learnt that the man himself is currently working at the very place I went for the respray. Now that was a pleasant surprise after all these years...
sorely tempted by one of the new top-of-the-range triathlon-ready Garmins. when i lost my 110 recently, thought for a marvellous moment that I could trade up...then i found it.
also fancy another ultra-lite Gore Running Wear winter jacket, but unfortunately it's summer.
I paid £1k for my bike, which some people thing is a silly amount of money already but as Richard's illustrated above, it really isn't difficult to spend a small family car budget on a bike that most definitely won't make you 9 times faster.
It might be my age but I still hanker for the golden age of bike design when they were all made from skinny steel tubes beautifully welded together.
I'm certainly not saying I would pay that for a bike, but they are 'if money's no object' bikes
And, of course I agree that they're not that much faster, except uphill - or is that psychological??
Do you know of this site, if not, it will definately interest you!!
1994 = £1,200 for a Dyna-Tech 755Ti, with a few alterations (Campag Chorus chainset, Ritchey stem & seat-pin/'Flite' saddle/Scott Drop-Ins) It's now downgraded, & is my work bike/trainer
Oh yes! I was all over this site like a rash earlier this year when I was getting ideas on how to refurb the Ron Cooper. In fact the only reason I haven't posted up there myself is because I haven't yet been able to get out for a proper ride in the countryside and take lots of lovely pictures of it.
Considering me and my brothers/mates were all teenagers when we were getting into cycling I think we did pretty well in having some nice shiny equipment without ridiculous financial outlay, probably helped along by the second hand market. It still cost me nearly three times as much for the renovation as it cost me (OK, my dad) in the first place. It is 25 years old though.
Not kit related but I thought when I retired I'd get back into photography and maybe even try and sell some pictures. Saw an advert for Leica M9 monochrom (e.g. just takes black and white pictures) Camera body £6100.00 lens £5400.00. That would be divorce as I'd have to remortgage the house and sell myself
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They are lovely. But at that price, I'd be too worried to wear on a bike.
The problem I have is that I very rarely see anything that I like.
Then when I do, it usually costs silly money, and I'm too mean to pay silly money for stuff.
If wer're talking bicycles, it'd have to be this Ridley Noah) it puts my own Ridley Orion to shame!!
http://www.ridley-bikes.com/pd/gb/en-gb/1/346/road/noah%20%20fb
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/ridley-noah-fast-aero-road-bike-launched-30738/
But, at circa £9400, I think she'd say "No!!"" (& make it sound like she was was talking in capitals too!!!)
Failing that, & finding one in the country in my size, it'd be this BMChttp://www.evanscycles.com/products/bmc/teammachine-slr01-dura-ace-di2-2012-cadel-evans-ltd-edition-road-bike-ec032511
As much as I like Trek Madone's these 2 are a bit different
Then... fi we're talking Guitars
http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/productdetail.aspx?pid=5122
And it's dearer than either of the bikes!
Everythings expensive. From running socks upward. That includes running shoes. I like the idea of Nikeid, I keep playing but can't afford the end result. It's the sales for me.
Bikes are expensive and all the bits that you find out you need.
I'd like a swimming pool.
Ok lets all chip in an get Mouse a swimming pool.
Jebus imagine if we did that? Bit by bit first the hole and the plumbing and then the tiles and the metal ladder thing.
Would you want a diving board Mouse?
Thing is I cant swim so I wouldnt even want a go. Id just dangle my feet in the shallow end and scope dead leaves out with my net on a pole thing
You could have a big pair of Mickey Mouse ears in the bottom picked out in expensive tiling
Thats why the poor cant be allowed to have money we have no taste what so ever.
hahha
I can dig holes and with the amount of rain we've had of late I'm nearly there.
Shame about the Micky Mouse ears though.
But it's not just cost, it's cost per wear that counts, doesn't it? a £30 pair of shoes that fall apart in 3 months is poorer value than a £90 pair that last a year. I'll perfectly happily pay for something that I think will last and be used beyond the life of the cheaper version. it's about getting my money's worth in the long run.
I'm not sure I'd want a pool though - not even mickey mouse ears
But that would make it justifiably expensive then, wouldn't it?
To me, we're talking about the sort of shiny things that fall way into the realms of diminishing returns, compared to how much they cost. Cycling equipment is classic for this. I paid £1k for my bike, which some people thing is a silly amount of money already but as Richard's illustrated above, it really isn't difficult to spend a small family car budget on a bike that most definitely won't make you 9 times faster.
It might be my age but I still hanker for the golden age of bike design when they were all made from skinny steel tubes beautifully welded together. My favourite (apart from my Ron Cooper Columbus SL which was custom made for me 25 years ago and recently got a refurb) is probably the Cinelli Laser. One of these in original condition would cost a small fortune now.
Look at that!
I've got a pair of boots I paid over £100 for at least ten years ago. I don't wear them very often, but I think I've had my money's worth
Philpub i raise one cinelli laser for this
More bike porn for you Phil.
Look at the lugs on that
Nice!
I'm probably biased but since you mention it, I reckon Ron Cooper does lugs very nicely indeed. This was built for me in 1987 when I was 15 and I treated it to a facelift and modern components (except original seatpost and handlebars/quill stem) earlier this year. Yet to get more than 50 miles on it because I daren't take it out in the rain. Dammit!
There is no bike like the bike you had when you were 15.
Good to see it was red.
Mine was too
Back in the day it was actually blue and white in a classic 80s style fade. But now it's officially Ferrari Red / Gios Blue, to go with the Italian tubing. (And my club colours.)
Ok PhilPub here you go
You can listen to an interview with the man who built your bike.
and heres a site I know you will appreiciate if you dont already know about it hours and hours of people just wittering on about bikes and riding them.
Enjoy
Cheers. I've heard the Ron interview before but you've just reminded me that he built my bike the same year Stephen Roche won the Tour (best cycling TV memories ever...), the Giro and the world champs - on a beautiful Battaglin. I should've copied the paintjob!
As it happens, in the process of getting the bike spruced up, I learnt that the man himself is currently working at the very place I went for the respray. Now that was a pleasant surprise after all these years...
For anyone out there with 2 grand burning a hole in their shorts this is a very good list of British frame makers.
I will not take any responsibility for relationship breakdowns caused by anyone selling the kids in to servitude just so they can buy one.
sorely tempted by one of the new top-of-the-range triathlon-ready Garmins. when i lost my 110 recently, thought for a marvellous moment that I could trade up...then i found it.
also fancy another ultra-lite Gore Running Wear winter jacket, but unfortunately it's summer.
Yes but does anyone know you found it, other than us?
I'm certainly not saying I would pay that for a bike, but they are 'if money's no object' bikes
And, of course I agree that they're not that much faster, except uphill - or is that psychological??
Do you know of this site, if not, it will definately interest you!!
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/
As for what I have paid (in the past) for bikes
1990 = (circa) £1,300 for a Pace Research RC100 (well before they started producing suspension forks)
http://retro-pace-mtb.wetpaint.com/
1994 = £1,200 for a Dyna-Tech 755Ti, with a few alterations (Campag Chorus chainset, Ritchey stem & seat-pin/'Flite' saddle/Scott Drop-Ins)
It's now downgraded, & is my work bike/trainer
Oh yes! I was all over this site like a rash earlier this year when I was getting ideas on how to refurb the Ron Cooper. In fact the only reason I haven't posted up there myself is because I haven't yet been able to get out for a proper ride in the countryside and take lots of lovely pictures of it.
Considering me and my brothers/mates were all teenagers when we were getting into cycling I think we did pretty well in having some nice shiny equipment without ridiculous financial outlay, probably helped along by the second hand market. It still cost me nearly three times as much for the renovation as it cost me (OK, my dad) in the first place. It is 25 years old though.
Is it? Buy the jacket.
Not kit related but I thought when I retired I'd get back into photography and maybe even try and sell some pictures. Saw an advert for Leica M9 monochrom (e.g. just takes black and white pictures) Camera body £6100.00 lens £5400.00. That would be divorce as I'd have to remortgage the house and sell myself
Yeah but you really want
I think I have one in the house some place.