Moraghan Training - Stevie G

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  • DachsDachs ✭✭✭

    I disagree.  It is an unremarkable achievement to have made £1.  However, having made several billion of those £1s is a remarkable achievement.

  • The BusThe Bus ✭✭✭

    Horses for courses, each to their own, live and let live, que sera sera, takes allsorts  - sorry run out of meaningless platitudes, whatever image

    I'm still impressed by 700 marathons, and I'm still very impressed by Matt's 2nd marathon image

    Fell/off-road run in the pouring rain and mist today. 1,300 ft and 6.21M. Stopped at exactly that distance as it was just a few secs under the hour for 10k, which I was personally quite impressed with given the terrain and amount of climbing and that I know plenty of people aiming to dip under the hour for a flat road 10kimage

     

  • RicFRicF ✭✭✭
    Dachs wrote (see)

    I disagree.  It is an unremarkable achievement to have made £1.  However, having made several billion of those £1s is a remarkable achievement.

     

    I'd had this thought myself.

    But then again, if we applied this idea to blokes having women, we'd think him a right sod.

    Which leads to hearing about that porn star (Ron Jeremy, I think that was him) when he was asked if he fancied his co stars?

    His reply was, "Some I fancied, for others I was just being professional".

    Standards indeed.

    Oh forgot to mention. After two weeks without a bookable run, and a week without any day to day problems or indications from the knee. I decided a tentative outing in the running shoes. After all, it was ok jogging about the house, cycling and leg extensions with weights.

    Result was I could feel the knee after about 300 yards and was limping two hundred yards later.

    Seems I can do any exercise I like then, except running. Awkward.

     

    🙂

  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭

    sort of positive Ric, but for what you want to be doing a bit rubbish. It'll turn I'm certain. Fingers crossed you won't have a G saga for months!

    Bus, good work. Not just on racking up more holidays per year than anyone i've ever met , but also on the running image

     

    Last word from me on 700 marathons boy...I'm intrigued by the logistics round it. I wonder how many of the 52 weeks of the year have a UK based marathon, and how many international trips he's doing. How he's funding it all etc.

    But as Bus said earlier, even 1 a week would take almost 14 years to get 700 up!  Checking his po10 he's done a few of these multiple races over consecutive day jobs. But even on po10 there's probably only 100 of the 700 on his record...

    all this talk of marathons is making me glad I'm sleeping in (til 8!) and rest daying tomorrow

  • Silly nutter and I'll take my hat off to him

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Abad 607 marathons in 607 days. Was shooting for 1000 but ran out of money.

  • Making several billon pounds over a single pound makes something several billion times better. 700 marathons is a bit more like having 700 white t-shirts all the same size, you can only wear one at a time. 

    Managed to squeeze a run in before dinner, 7.4 miles @ 6.30 which is no mans land pace really but I wanted to get some miles in.

  • RicFRicF ✭✭✭

    Positive SG, it's the only way to progress. We have to experience the downs to really appreciate the ups.

    As for the latest set back. I noted my reaction at being reaquainted with running ground zero compared to around 25 years ago. Then I might have almost cried with frustration, today I simply found it a minor inconvenience.

    Such is the influence of discussing such things around here, and also how a sore knee stacks up against the other things I get faced with.

    As you know (well most) I do a gardening job. My clientele are predominately, women, the elderly and the disabled. Sometime all three reside at the same address. 

    Needless to say; considering the age and health of most of these people, I lose the odd one, as in the medical sense.

    In the past year I've lost five of my regulars, the last one on Sunday morning.

    Ok, their average age was about 90, but compared to the 'ways of the world' chat we had over tea and biscuits, money earned was a side issue.

     

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  • The BusThe Bus ✭✭✭

    And he did his 607 while working! Whatever the times, just try running 26 miles a day for 6 days in a row let alone 607!!!  then think about doing that while working too..... mad, yes, impressive, undoubtedly! That is more 26marathon distance runs than I have done races... times almost 3! If you are not impressed, no matter whether you think it's logical or sensible, then you must be borderline brain dead, or a Vulcan image

  • I'm still not impressed. I reckon the majority of humans are capable of doing this. I just see it as someone who is suffering form some sort of mental disorder, maybe OCD or something.

  • The BusThe Bus ✭✭✭

    Your a hard man to please AG imageThere's a big difference between being capable of doing something and actually doing it. And, yes, that bloke almost certainly has some underlying mental issue causing him to do what he did,but so do most people who do extraordinary things. It's still one feck of a lot of marathons!

    Ric, cross post last night. Must be hard sometimes getting to know your clients well then losing so many.

     

  • DachsDachs ✭✭✭

    Bus, having made that assertion, now you have to decide whether AG is borderline brain dead or whether he's a Vulcan.

    Ric, no worries, I've certainly been guilty in the past of pushing too hard when things are going well, and ending up stale, just not this time.

    Track last night, for 10 x 800.  Done in teams of 3, with one person resting each lap. Didn't hammer it massively hard, but times were 2:31, 2:33, 2:35, 2:36, 2:37, 2:33, 2:37, 2:36, 2:37, 2:30, so average around 2:34.  Uneven pacing there due to trying to not have a complete mismatch in pace with teammates, but that's OK.  At full fitness I'd be looking for around 2:30/2:31 average, but I don't need that sharpness right now so happy enough.  The jog home afterwards, usually a death march, felt surprisingly sprightly too.

  • DeanR7DeanR7 ✭✭✭

    Bus, if you had the choice would you run a marathon everyday until London or run just London in 2.25?   Which would you be happiest with?

     

    decent session dachs

  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭

    Some bloke was on the radio as I drove into work who had just completed 10 Ironman races in 10 days; no idea what his times were but sounds incredible, especially as it was the same course in Mexico and the bike circuit was a 5k loop he had to do 36 times a day! 

  • RicFRicF ✭✭✭

    Needless to say, for me the aspect of choosing which run(s) to do and in what time, has become academic. A rare bit of massage has given me the suspicion of having a mess of ripped scar tissue to keep me occupied for a while.

    No matter. It will get better. Always does. I can wait.

    Dachs, a session top and tailed by the fastest reps looks balanced enough.

    I once spent 8 weeks doing the same session of 800's each time. So uncertain of what I could do timewise, I ran the first set in the 2:50's just to make sure I could finish. After that, I was happy with just beating the average time; which I did a couple of seconds or so each time.

    The final set I averaged 2:29 with a 2:23 to finish with.

    The thing is, if I'd tried to run as fast as that to start with, I'd have blown up. So somewhere in the process, I must have crossed some line from having one level of ability to another.

    The issue is, not once did I try to run as fast as I could go. Merely progressing the numbers did the job.

    Bus, it's easy to forget how robust some of these old ladies were. They fall down, break something, just get better. Time and again. Then one day they don't get better.

    Their considerable age causes some confusion. During our chats they talk with concern about the health of their children and then when you meet them (the kids), you find they are in their late 60's and into their 70's.

    One old guy I do jobs for (93 years old) had his son there when I turned up. He was in town to have a check up on his triple heart bypass operation.

    Even the old bods say the health issues are down to lifestyle choices.

    Here on the thread, by modern standards, we are all unnaturally healthy.

     

     

    🙂

  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭

    Dean, that's like asking  would you prefer to go out with the hottest woman in the world, or monster through 1000s of nasties. image 

    As for you AG, you miserable unimpressable bastad! I demand someone load up Shania Twain's "that don't impress me much"

    cos you are her!

     

    Bit gutted today, a great colleague in my new team has just left immediately out of the blue. Gone, just like that. Obviously doesn't compare to what Ric's unfortunately getting used to, but there;s not a great deal of people leaving work i'd give it more than a minute's thought. i guess normally you do have a month's notice to prepare for it!

     

  • RicFRicF ✭✭✭

    Surprisingly enough SG, that does sort of compare.

    People leaving in one way or another can be like a bereavement. It's not always death.

    When I was only about seven years old, there was a couple of kids at school who played together exclusively. They were happy as anything the pair of them, playing with toy cars or something. Then one day, one of the pair left the school as his parents had decided to move away from the area.

    The kid left behind was bereft and in tears. Made an impression.

    Mind you, in the 60's, kids who were disabled were made to stay indoors at playtime for some reason. Even I wondered why they were being punished, and I was about six years old at the time.

    I notice things like that.

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  • When I first thought about doing an Ironman race it sounded mental, I doubted whether I could do it. I got round in 12 hours and was pretty pleased with myself. 

    The winner finished in 8hrs, I was impressed image. I suddenly was unimpressed by my own effort. I knew I could go a lot faster but it would take hundreds of hours of training, focus and dedication  to maybe do 9 1/2 hours. That's my goal. It would be much easier for me to plod out 10 in 10 days than do one in 9 1/2 hours.

    I could spend years painting the Cistine Chapel or I could get a job as a painter and decorator and work 16 hours a day getting through 10 ceilings a day. Actually at least that would be admirable because I'd being getting paid. Doing 500 or 1000 marathons is just a ridiculous waste of time.

    I used to try and do keepy ups I got to 100 then 1000 then 3331, The last effort took 30 minutes and I never tried to beat it again because I am not mental and knew that was enough. My time would be much better served learning to balance the ball on my head, which I never did master.

  • ML84ML84 ✭✭✭
    I love the randomness of this thread.

    They do a 10 marathons in 10 days in the Lake District each year. Once fancied having a go at that but obviously saw sense once I got more into running.



    Thinking of a career swap myself at the min. Company I work for have got pretty much 2 years of working away lined up (12 hour days). Currently in South Wales which as I'm taking it easy after Sunday it fits quite well. Really isn't something I want to be doing all the time.



    Nice session Dachs!
  • DachsDachs ✭✭✭

    My whole chartered profession is in the process of being deliberately eroded by Government, many of whom do not deep down believe that we should exist.  Therefore a career swap may be on the cards one day.  I reckon graphic design would be fun, I've already got some experience of commemorative plates under my belt.

  • DeanR7DeanR7 ✭✭✭
    Stevie G wrote (see)

    Dean, that's like asking  would you prefer to go out with the hottest woman in the world, or monster through 1000s of nasties. image  

     

    Agreed...but some on here are more impressed by the 1000 nasties...whereas a few on here prefer the idea of the hot model.  Each to their own image

  • I'd like 1000 hot models.

  • The BusThe Bus ✭✭✭

    Damn AG, that means you can't be a Vulcan!image

    Dean, I'd prefer a 2.25 of course. Partly because I could actually envisage what it would take to achieve that and it isn't beyond the realms of possibility for me imagine I could have done it at some point in my life with the right commitment and training. I can't even begin to imagine what it takes to do 700 marathons in a row but I know damn well I never would or could!

    Very nice fell run this afternoon once the gales had passed. The 3 mile descent off Red Screes on a grassy ridge was pure joy!

  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭

    Dean's question does give an obvious answer in fairness. But 2.25 is a pretty extreme end of the market, real talent and ferocious hard work job.

    A more realistic comparison comes from looking at that Steve Edwards stats. His pb is 2.51 from yonks ago, no doubt when he properly trained massively hard.

    When faced with a choice of whether he obliterates himself for years to come to perhaps only get that down to a 2.50, or do something that properly separates him from the pack, and gets real wow factor (from all but a few elitist obsessives, ie you lot on this thread), then it becomes more understandable to opt for option B,

  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭

    Understandable to try and separate yourself from the pack; seems utter madness to do it his way, but if that's what puts a smile on his face at night who are we to argue!

    Tried a 12 miler today in some vain hope of getting endurance for Gosport half; pretty rubbish to be averaging about 7'15. I'm no fan of this real long distance running lark.

  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭

    very true Pete. Although I read a piece on him, sometime after 600 odd marathons where he admitted it's becoming harder to motivate himself, and he has to be more aware of his body! Should think so on both! And am amazed it's taken that long.

    What was the breakdown of your 12 planned to be?

    Ah Gosport. Have unfinished business there. One of the growing number of "I will do this again, and well" in my list. Only slight problem is I feel like I'm slightly starting to run out of years a bit..as stupid as that sounds... However, main aim, and a humble one at that, is to be able to race ONE more time feeling 100%.

  • I reckon anyone who talks about themselves in the third person on their PO10 profile is probably a bell end. 

     

  • actually when you read through the races you realise what a lunatic this guy is!

  • PeteMPeteM ✭✭✭
    SG, plan was a simple steady 7mm in Windsor Great Park. Did 7's for about 9 miles then it crept up mile by mile. Need more endurance but it was wet, miserable, lonely and a bit hilly. You've got loads of years to run Gosport well so here's hoping you're all clear to race again soon.
  • Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭

    AG,  not sure he does? I just checked it expecting to read loads of

    "Steve E does this...Steve E does that", but all there is, is a one liner saying "extreme marathoner..." or something.

    ta Pete. If it ever feels 100% again,  I will definitely get back on the scene and start throwing my weight around and get amongst some real Bootleg level races.

    I can see the headlines now.... "SG receives the 1st placed prize in the Gash N Go Village 10k, having heroically beaten 34 other runners, mainly middle aged women and kids, a couple of whom have run before".

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