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Help with IT band syndrome

Hi

I am suffering with IT band syndrome & looking for advice.

It began in March whilst I was training for a half marathon. I have seen a physio who diagnosed IT band syndrome and have done everything I am supposed to - rested, iced, stretched twice a day for 7 months & bought orthotics (on the physio's advice) to correct slight overpronation. I had managed to get back to running 20 minutes twice a week but there has been no improvement. It is now 10 days since I ran at all, and I am still suffering pain.

I am becoming demoralised & beginning to think it will never clear up, and really looking for some advice/support from other who have had the same problem. How long is this going to last & will I ever get over it? Any other suggestions for what else I can do?

Thanks!

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    Over and over again, as a long time ITBS sufferer, I think ITBS happens because of running technique imbalances. You overstretch your IT band and make it rub against the bone. To make it rub one needs to move the leg laterally in the opposite direction: left leg to the right and right leg to the left. In my case it was a slight swinging motion to the centre line of movement for the left leg and landing closer to the centre line. When I shifted landing my foot further from the centre line the ITBS was gone. Occasionally I get a very slight ITBS pangs of pain and the same second I conciously correct my gait accordingly although it might also happen when I run downhill on a hard off-road surface - landing is haphazard and might incur the pain.

    I made a picture. The red landing pattern causes ITBS because the IT band overstretches and rubs against the bone. My proposal for technique change might be against the rules but it worked for me.

    http://ftp.rts.ru/pub/support/inter/misc/itbs.png


    I'm sorry for misspelling. And by the way I do want to hear from anyone who knows more about ITBS
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    Thanks for your reply - I have been thinking about going for gait analysis for a while now. Seems like a good idea after reading your reply!
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    Having started building up again after ITBS, this is what has helped me so far...

    I worked out how it started ...for me I ramped up my mileage too quickly and bought the wrong new pair of shoes. The effect was constant discomfort and I would get a sudden, intense pain at exactly the same distance - about a mile. Then it came on after shorter and shorter distances.

    I then started getting painful/stuck feeling at night which would wake me up.. Then I realized that I needed professional help ....

    Physio and gate analysis (another new pair of shoes) leading to the following ...

    Rested completely ( 1 month ) until the pain was completely gone.
    Stretching pelvis / cross leg / and thighs.
    changed running style to a more natural (front foot) approach- lots about this on youtube.
    Very gentle start and incremental increases in distance.

    I also tried omega3 oil and glucosamine tablets (no idea if they helped but I was desperate for anything that helps)

    ...so far so good ...up to about 15 miles per week.

    For me slight tightness in my thigh is a leading indicator that I am pushing too hard, so I do stretches and don't push the milage.


    hope this helps ...

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    Plods, i recognise all of those things, i had firt ITBS case abt 18mnths ago, when i too ramped up the miles. it was in cold weather so i wasnt sure at first if the stiffness and pain were due to cramp and cold in my joint. same happened to me , it would come on at same point and gradually i could run less and less distance without pain. i changed my trainers and had to biuld up my mileage gradually again but it improved and vanished after abt 3 months. i thn ramped up the mileage again in april/may this year for a HM , i was doing too much and doing HM distance every weekend. i did the HM in july without problems but by august i was having the same problem back again, reaching only 5 miles and being in pain. i got through another HM end of sept but struggled the last 3 miles considerably in pain as it stiffened up. i had gait analysis-i over pronate badly on my right -i have new trainers (nike lunarglide) and with stretching everyday i have seen improvement over the past 3/4 weeks. i too believe gait /footfall has a lot to do with it and im trying to work on forefoot strike which takes the pressure off my outer knee.

    mtbr.dot..your diagram is interesting too..i find if i run trying to keep footfall either side of the white line on the road it helps too, like you say , not crossing the midline....if anyone has any other tips id be grateful!!

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    Thanks Plods & loulabell, the start of my ITBS seemed to co-incide with increasing intensity of training rather than increasing mileage - I was trying to run faster & faster all the time & do my long runs at race pace, but I recognise those symptoms, like pain starting earlier also. If anyone has any opinions on omega 3 & glucosamine I'd be very interested to hear it - I too Plods am desperate to try anything! I have read that shortening your stride so you are more of a forefoot striker can help but as yet haven't attempted it. Gait analysis seems to be the next logical step...
    Thanks for all your replies!
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    I've recently had IT band issues with the pain right at the top of the iliac crest (not so common but same problem).

    I use a foam roller at least 3 times a day and also exercises to strengthen the quads to help keep the alignment correct (I have pre-arthritic changes in my knee....) I also alternated heat/ice etc as other say and stretching regurlarly and use orthotics!  I would suggest foamies though!

    It's much better now and I completed the GSR last month and am due to do a HM next weekend. I still find it niggly at times (going upstairs I can feel it sometimes), but nothing like it was, but it took at least 6 weeks until I felt any improvement.

    I did a gait analysis, and feel that barefoot/minimal is the way forward for me but that's an individual's point of view. But it seems that forefoot striking seems to be beneficial? I also take glucosamine etc but not sure if they are effective or not...

    Good luck and keep positive! image

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    I'm also suffering from IT band syndrome. At least, that's what my physio says it is. I done the Dublin marathon two weeks ago and I went back out yesterday for the first time, but both of the outside of my knees now are killing me. I'm just not sure how long to give it. There's no worse feeling than thinking your comeback run is going so well until the pain comes back and you are back to square 1.

    Like a previous poster on this thread I was tempted to jack it all in as physio fees were starting to mount, but I'm prepared to give it everything to try and get rid of this.

    Any hints/tips please? How long I should rest up for? Exercises?

    Thanks in advance
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    According to medical experts you can never stretch the ITB - it is the strongest tissue in the body. Having said that gait has a lot to do with it niggling - I have no problems on my left but really dull aching most of the time on the right. Years ago we were out walking with my daughter who ended up crying in pain - she was diagnosed (back in the 80s) with over tight ITB and was offered an operation to split it (apparently then it was a very rare op so at 16 she wasn't about to have a scar and said no). It consequently subsided, especially as she eased off of trampolining. I ocassionally have noisy twangs when doing warm up stretches. I now run in free run shoes which seem to be better for me but would probably be frowned upon by physio's. I am training for Edinburgh Marathon next year and am anxious that things don't get worse. I've found using abbductor/adductor machines helps although I get odd looks when I go to the gym use just those machines and then leave!
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    Nikki's right that you can't stretch the ITB, but it's an odd bit of fascia in that it doesn't attach to bone at the top, it attaches right into the glutes (buttock muscles).  So when you have ITBS, you often have trigger points (painful and tight spots) in the glutes which do respond really well to massage - try a spiky massage ball, which you can get from Amazon or Physiosupplies etc.  ITBS sufferers often have weak or uncoordinated glutes as well - see if you can easily contract your left and right buttock muscles alternately (not together!) and if you can't, then practise!

     The ITB also responds well to massage or foam rollering, and gait analysis can help if there are underlying biomechanical issues.  Some people get on really well with barefoot trainers and others need more cushioning or support.

    In my practice I also find that ITBS sufferers often have pelvic issues (asymmetry, usually) which responds to mobilisation treatment. 

     

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    Hello,

    I have been running lots of miles without any real issues (40 miles per week), but last week I (foolishly!) cranked up mileage with long back to back runs(I have my first ever Ultra Marathon in Feb!)This resulted in a sore knee!
    Suspect ITB to over training. I have been icing it, rested totally, and it's only a small pain (4 days later). I am seeing a podiatrist and taking glucosime too!
    Am worried as I have quite a lot of training to do. I intend to be idle until there is no pain, but for how long? - I do need to crack on soon.
    Should I be really worried about this? Am taking all the really great advice on board here, and any words of wisdom will be really appreciated!
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    Thanks nellmead, spiky ball sounds good - I shall try the buttock thing - when I'm at home - might get some odd looks from my colleagues!

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    Nikki I've used a spiky ball in my lower back & gluteals, and have used a foam roller quite extensively too. Both did help but I have never quite cleared the problem.
    Susie - I'm not an expert but I'd be cautious before running too much - overtraining is definitely at the root of my itbs & I've been struggling since march. I have an appointment with orthopaedic specialist next week - if he can't offer me a solution I'm not sure what my next move will be image
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    Thanks Louise!
    It was defiantly over training that did it.
    The podiatrist gave me some really good advice, and I am on rest, icing and doing some specific glute/quad exercises to help. He also said it was likely to be bursitis too. (friction injury, ouch!) I am also looking not to do any daily back to back running.
    The foam rollering seems to have cleared up any twinges, although I am not going to run far until I am certain the injury is gone.
    K strapping is also something I was advised to try (in small runs first) - here is hoping all of this and enough rest works.

    I really hope the orthopaedic specialist works out. Let me know how you get on. I too am running Edinburgh! Hope we both make it to the start & finish line!
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    Louise, have you had your feet and pelvis looked at properly?  Having worked with both quite extensively, and if you're sure you've exhausted the physiotherapy and podiatry options, my instinct would be to see a consultant in sports medicine or rehabilitation before going down the orthopaedic route for ITBS.

    I agree that spiky ball and foam roller aren't the total solution for everyone (if they were, I'd be out of work as a physio specialising in sports injuries!) but they're a good starting point and will sort things out for a lot of people.

    Good luck!

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    I am 4 weeks away from my first half marathon and I have just started getting the IT band symptoms. I am not sure whether to stop training completely or do something else - swimming, or do short gentle runs 2/3 times a week. My knee aches now - I am worried that if I hit the road again I'll be struck with pain again. Any advice would be appreciated!
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    Oh dear...it sounds all too common. I too went to the physio today with band problems - have been told that if I want to do the half I signed up for on March 25 I'll need a cortisone shot. Not sure I want to head down this route. Have been instructed to stretch 3 times a day and am going back for another very painful massage on Thurs. He was surprised I've been managing to do as much as I have, but where the body is weak, the mind is stubborn...until it hurts too much! Best wishes to everyone for speedy recoveries...
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    I'm starting to think that if ITB pain comes on without you being able to pin it down to something particular such as

    • increasing mileage quite a lot
    • running on camber
    • downhill running
    • changing shoes
    • changing car/seating position (yes - my right leg got much better after I moved my driving seat further back)

    then it's quite likely you've got some kind of a knot/trigger point in your muscles (TFL/glutes).  I'd rollered down my legs quite a lot but for me what helped - and my leg cerainly does feel looser now - was on the very top of my leg, slightly to the outside.  I have got a foam roller but it's a bit easy to miss some places with something that size - try also using a tennis ball or something like a rolling pin or a dumbell without the weights.

    I reckon all the other things are valid too, I'm just saying if you've been running quite a lot recently without problems then your form/glute strength etc presumably won't have changed that much.

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