In Abingdon Marathon 2006, somewhere about the 20M mark I think, the Marshalls tried to stop runners and make them wait for the ped crossing, having been told to by the police! You can imagine runners responses at that point! Course has been amended to remove that bit now.
Conversely, at the end of the Tour of Britain this year, just after the riders had passed on the last loop, marshals were trying to stop the spectators cross the road to get to the finish area, citing "'elf and safety". This was after all the riders were gone and weren't coming back - the biggest health and safety risk was that the marshals would get mullered by the crowd! They eventually let us go...
You need a vest like I wore to my last race SG, don't know how to post pictures but it's a bright bugger. It'd go well with them baggy shorts.
Had a go at x training last night which is bloody boring. Spinning tonight and in the morning and then the physio thurs evening. Looking very doubtful that I'll be doing the 12 stage but fingers crossed.
SG, worst leg is the one that starts playing up 11 miles into the 20 miler..
Yes waiting around. With the RNR, one aspect is timing the start of your leg with the incoming runner.
In my first RNR, I arrived, expecting my predicted start to be more or less correct, only to find our team was operating over two hours behind schedule, so some hanging around involved.
But mainly the event may have been on for several hours before you even have to leave home for Norfolk. I mean, the event lasts so long that some early leg runners are already home before you have even left, if that makes any sense.
Obviously, not everyone ends up at the finish. But more satisfying that way. Just have to ensure you don't fall asleep at the wheel afterwards.
Getting 17 runners is one problem many clubs have, but a few ringers and second claimers helps things along. Getting an entry to the race itself is a bit of a lottery, there's a spring loaded demand.
Note: Take your own cooking gear for a fry up. The organisers know how to maximise profits with starving runners. The fry up they laid on worked out as £1 per small item. £1 for a tomato or a mushroom.ffs. Even had security ensuring no one took an extra bit. Only downside of the weekend.
Matt, sorry, on my phone at the game last night, so missed you have a potential injury brewing. Needless to say, I hope that disappears.
And if you want to see baggy shorts, you should have seen what I rolled up to the Marlow half in years ago. Ridiculously baggy, like the type some fat American kid would skateboard in.
Ric, I was never too interested in the Greenbelt relay, even though one of the legs starts from about 5miles away. But will definitely do a lot of reading ontheir site for this one.
You make a good point about the actual race entry. I remember now there was something about whether we actually got accepted. I expect there's a lot of pressure to pick the right teams, who won't fall apart and ruin their lovely event for starters!
Our club are very game though, and have a lot of members, so I expect we will get 17 together. What sort of level we're dealing with is obviously a different question, so they'd really have to make sure we get the predicted timings a lot better than the guys before you!
We had a 2mile relay the other year, where I was coming in to finish, and saw our final leg runner and had to scream at him to get to the finish!
Does bring back memories of other relays where your team is sorted well, and you look at some poor other guy, laundering his breeks to finish well, only to find no next runner is anywhere to be seen, completely ruining any effort he's put in!
Right, 12miler on the agenda shortly. We're back in the proper stuff after a couple of recovery days.
Obviously, not everyone ends up at the finish. But more satisfying that way. Just have to ensure you don't fall asleep at the wheel afterwards.
this made me think of one certain runner in our team. We'd do a 5-6 leg relay, and the guy who does the first leg has always buggered off home by the time it finishes, whether we're in with a chance of winning or not.
Nowt wrong with black socks - my Tesco ones are my bog standard running socks, although I used the old Ron Hill twin skin ones at Reading. Ive seen my photos from Reading and I look like death warmed up. Yes Stevie, not sure about the baggy shorts , glad you survived Luton..a couple of my training group would have wandered down there after training.
I wore football shorts on my gentle 5 miler on Monday..I'm not wasting running shorts for a 5 mile leg loosener! I wear footie shorts if i'm slow coming back from Injury.
Sunglasses have rules too. It might be sunny, but I never wear them in a track race under 5K, or in a cross country race. Just not right.
Red socks if you are Dave Bedford breaking a record.
SG, is it the Round Norfolk Relay or the Green Belt Relay?
The Green Belt relay involves a leg on consecutive days so attention to recovery is critical. I did the GBR once with a 13.5 mile on Saturday and 10.8 miles on Sunday. I averaged sub six minute mile pace for both and ran 77:15 for the 13.5.
First speed session this morning. 10 x one minute with one minute recovery.
Fully dressed with hat and gloves, I was doing 5:15's on grass. Heart rate mid 160's after the fast bits, 120's after the recovery. Felt sustainable. No force required. Hill session on Friday programmed.
There have been XC races I wished I'd worn sunnies in, simply in order to be able to see properly. Having said that, I reckon you can only get away with sunglasses if you're likely to be in the first five of any given race.
Actually for sunglasses there is only one rule: don't wear them unless you want to look like a prick. As Dachs says, finish top 5 and the prick look-a-like effect can be countered by the finish position.
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In Abingdon Marathon 2006, somewhere about the 20M mark I think, the Marshalls tried to stop runners and make them wait for the ped crossing, having been told to by the police! You can imagine runners responses at that point! Course has been amended to remove that bit now.
Conversely, at the end of the Tour of Britain this year, just after the riders had passed on the last loop, marshals were trying to stop the spectators cross the road to get to the finish area, citing "'elf and safety". This was after all the riders were gone and weren't coming back - the biggest health and safety risk was that the marshals would get mullered by the crowd! They eventually let us go...
It's the black socks with road shoes that is unforgivable
If you look closely (but not too closely ), you'll see they are short shorts but with cycling shorts underneath
Used to go to Norfolk as a kid for hols. Wells next the sea, but loads of trips.i notice one leg starts from wells.
Worst leg has to be awaiting the 20mile runner..through the night.
Be very interested to hear how they plan it all.especially stayovers,getting to legs and what you do in between and after!!
Also hope it doesn't clash with big footy games...like tonights terrific win
Whoooioooop
Had a go at x training last night which is bloody boring. Spinning tonight and in the morning and then the physio thurs evening. Looking very doubtful that I'll be doing the 12 stage but fingers crossed.
SG, worst leg is the one that starts playing up 11 miles into the 20 miler..
Yes waiting around. With the RNR, one aspect is timing the start of your leg with the incoming runner.
In my first RNR, I arrived, expecting my predicted start to be more or less correct, only to find our team was operating over two hours behind schedule, so some hanging around involved.
But mainly the event may have been on for several hours before you even have to leave home for Norfolk. I mean, the event lasts so long that some early leg runners are already home before you have even left, if that makes any sense.
Obviously, not everyone ends up at the finish. But more satisfying that way. Just have to ensure you don't fall asleep at the wheel afterwards.
Getting 17 runners is one problem many clubs have, but a few ringers and second claimers helps things along. Getting an entry to the race itself is a bit of a lottery, there's a spring loaded demand.
Note: Take your own cooking gear for a fry up. The organisers know how to maximise profits with starving runners. The fry up they laid on worked out as £1 per small item. £1 for a tomato or a mushroom.ffs. Even had security ensuring no one took an extra bit. Only downside of the weekend.
🙂
Matt, sorry, on my phone at the game last night, so missed you have a potential injury brewing. Needless to say, I hope that disappears.
And if you want to see baggy shorts, you should have seen what I rolled up to the Marlow half in years ago. Ridiculously baggy, like the type some fat American kid would skateboard in.
Ric, I was never too interested in the Greenbelt relay, even though one of the legs starts from about 5miles away. But will definitely do a lot of reading ontheir site for this one.
You make a good point about the actual race entry. I remember now there was something about whether we actually got accepted. I expect there's a lot of pressure to pick the right teams, who won't fall apart and ruin their lovely event for starters!
Our club are very game though, and have a lot of members, so I expect we will get 17 together. What sort of level we're dealing with is obviously a different question, so they'd really have to make sure we get the predicted timings a lot better than the guys before you!
We had a 2mile relay the other year, where I was coming in to finish, and saw our final leg runner and had to scream at him to get to the finish!
Does bring back memories of other relays where your team is sorted well, and you look at some poor other guy, laundering his breeks to finish well, only to find no next runner is anywhere to be seen, completely ruining any effort he's put in!
Right, 12miler on the agenda shortly. We're back in the proper stuff after a couple of recovery days.
I think a childhood of being told off for wearing white socks that were likely to get muddied up has long put me off.
That and the fact I've long since lost my "racing" socks.
There's nothing wrong with black race socks. You just need to pair them with a suitably eye-catching pair of non-baggy shorts to divert attention.
Foot feels a lot better today but I'm going to resist temptation to try a run til Friday.
I just run in the first pair I find and let the wife deal with the fall out
size with socks is the key, not colour!
My word that's a well defined leg PP
right...there are well defined rules to stuff like this.
black socks only acceptable doing XC/fell type event
White socks for track and road
It is acceptable in certain occasions to bend these rules if you are colour matching/clashing with spikes/trainers/vests etc
Breaking these simple rules angers the PB gods and a life of plateau and burn outs will become you. Be warned everyone
When I were a lad, par for the course for cross country was no socks. Not sure I'd be able to get away with that now.
Dean - you are spot on! Obviosuly PP's combo fits in with your 4th point!
Are you talking socks or PP style shorts here?
StevieG - Steady now!
Is it wrong that I'm getting excited about the track season based on foot attire colour matching?
Good set of pictures from Reading on flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/62198876@N02/sets/72157651111451198
re socks, if id known that was slowing me down id have sorted long ago.
12 done, 7.03or so.never feels amazing post late night funnily enough
dachs - i too used to do xc without socks as a lad
PP - those blue spikes/socks combo would not anger the PB gods. in fact quite the opposite
Nowt wrong with black socks - my Tesco ones are my bog standard running socks, although I used the old Ron Hill twin skin ones at Reading. Ive seen my photos from Reading and I look like death warmed up. Yes Stevie, not sure about the baggy shorts , glad you survived Luton..a couple of my training group would have wandered down there after training.
I wore football shorts on my gentle 5 miler on Monday..I'm not wasting running shorts for a 5 mile leg loosener! I wear footie shorts if i'm slow coming back from Injury.
Sunglasses have rules too. It might be sunny, but I never wear them in a track race under 5K, or in a cross country race. Just not right.
Wrong, but understandable PP!
SG - your black socks were the whole reason for that 4 secs
Careful, or we might move onto pre and post race clothing etiquette!
Ran out of time for my lunchtime session today - grrrr!
Red socks if you are Dave Bedford breaking a record.
SG, is it the Round Norfolk Relay or the Green Belt Relay?
The Green Belt relay involves a leg on consecutive days so attention to recovery is critical. I did the GBR once with a 13.5 mile on Saturday and 10.8 miles on Sunday. I averaged sub six minute mile pace for both and ran 77:15 for the 13.5.
First speed session this morning. 10 x one minute with one minute recovery.
Fully dressed with hat and gloves, I was doing 5:15's on grass. Heart rate mid 160's after the fast bits, 120's after the recovery. Felt sustainable. No force required. Hill session on Friday programmed.
🙂
There have been XC races I wished I'd worn sunnies in, simply in order to be able to see properly. Having said that, I reckon you can only get away with sunglasses if you're likely to be in the first five of any given race.
Hats - OK on the road, never on the track. Ever.
Actually for sunglasses there is only one rule: don't wear them unless you want to look like a prick. As Dachs says, finish top 5 and the prick look-a-like effect can be countered by the finish position.
See what I mean:
One of the president's men, I assume.
🙂
Other rules:
It is never ok to wear a hat in a road race, or a track race ....ever.....unless you are racing in texas where it is mandatory
Sunglasses are a no, unless you are a legend. by legend i mean Double olympic champion and not some triathlete doing a park run.
Deep heat should not be part of your pre race ritual....its not 1985
whistles uncomfortably....
Sunglasses often needed for XC. Or safety glasses due to low hanging branches capable of removing ones' eye rapidly.
I wore orange trainers and black long socks for yesterday's track sesh. WITH SUNNIES!
Suddenly everything becomes clear.
Ric, was just using the Green Belt as an other example of a long relay we're involved in.
It's most definitely the Norfolk angle that's got me interested.
Although I think it'd be a much poorer affair if people just do their leg and ruck off home!
Got sign off to go sniffing for another race now, so having a gander around. Shorter of course. I've had my early year half marathon fixes for now
Ok, one last post on Reading half.
Official results are out now (or I actually got round to checking them rather than the other list), and upgraded to 193rd
None of this list by chip time nonsense (200th)
http://www.readinghalfmarathon.com/results15/VitalityReadingHalfMarathon_v2.pdf
Most interesting to see the splits really.
5k 18.22
10k 36.21
15k 54.46
20k 1.12.33
(18.22,17.59,18.25,18.27) not a bad pacing job
Dachs, you'll be best for this. Do you think the elevation of ups versus downs is equal enough for the 10k to be used in a relevant way?
as in using it as a guide for a standalone fast 10k for example?