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For the record, I have done a little more research. MP's will not be able to help... and local councillors will only respond to their own constituents requests.
The requests to Liverpool Councillors will need to come from liverpool residents if they are to be acknowledged. It is not advisable to send loads of random emails to our councillors as this will undermine what we are trying to achieve...
Full marks for trying though Redhead - im just not expecting them to reply! We will see what info me & cougs get back.
Please give us an idea of timescales that we need to work towards - who needs to commit to what when etc..
If a Liverpool 2008 Mara was to be tagged on to the World Fire Fighters games then what exactly is required to make it a mass even for thousands?
What is needed in terms of sponsorship to get the event off the ground?
But as you can see from the statement below, they have been less than impressed in the past. So, therefore, don’t be surprised if they are reluctant to acquiesce to any future approaches made by RL.
Briefing Note to Liverpool City Council Executive Member
SUBJECT: ‘SANTA DASH’SPECIAL EVENT
DATE: 21st NOVEMBER 2005
Item 4: Professionalism of this Event Organiser. LCC have historically had issue with this event organizer, arising from late / poor planning, late /non-payment of debts, unwillingness to answer queries and complaints, lack of prior consultation and so on.
Source: www.liverpool.gov.uk
Horse.....dead.....flogging......a.....your
However, we have heard all the comments before and I don't think them being regurgitate every week is going to help us all get a Liverpool Marathon in 2008.
I don’t see anyone else stepping up to the plate and offering to organise one.
It is clear from the threads posted on this site that the majority of runners want a 2008 Liverpool Marathon.
Maybe we should all start supporting run Liverpool and not critising on past issues.
From my point of view being a RUNNER, as long as there is a start line, finish line and a race in between I don’t mind about anything else.
Come on all RUNNERS lets start supporting a 2008 Marathon bid for Liverpool.
Anyway, just because there are no xc or borders this weekend, get out and do some running instead of sitting in the warm typing away on the computer - remember you are a runner !!
I have just done 12 miles on the prom in a gail force wind - very hard work. Tony B was down there on his bike.
Does backwards Birdy actually run or is he just a professional moaner, I don't recall hearing about any of his past efforts.
You old mucker - Basil.
I'd like to see a Marathon in Liverpool in 2008... even though I may not even be there then.
Keith- The only reason he appears to be ‘the only one doing anything’ is because he is the only one getting paid to do anything! He is a Race Organiser! So don’t be viewing it as he is doing everyone a favour. IT IS HIS JOB.
Give me his big fat wodge of a pay packet and I will organise a marathon for you!
You all appear to be getting confused again, between genuine race organisers who give up their own valuable time and do a fabulous job, and ones (like RL) who get paid to do so.
Paradoxically, by continuing to support such a poor organisation, you are actually preventing the Marathon ever happening! Effectively you are destroying any chance you may have of getting the race on. If you concentrated your efforts on putting pressure on the city council to employ a credible, reliable race organiser, you may stand an outside chance of achieving your aims.
And yes Basil I do actually run. In fact, I have run more miles in the last 30 years than probably most of the people on these forums could ever dream of.
The reason you may not have heard of my ‘past efforts’ is that I run for myself and no-one else, I do not need the affirmation of other runners, I certainly don’t need to come on here and bore people about my PB’s unlike the sunglasses and lycra set, these forums seem to attract.
I come home, get my kit on, go for a run, come back have a shower…..what’s to feckin’ talk about??!!
:-)
If you look at what the Great North has done for Gateshead, you have to admit there are possibilities.
GK
Manchester and Birmingham should have one too if they dont already.
I feel like I have just been savaged by a dead sheep !!
Alan Rothwell,
Why not start the marathon at the end of Hoylake prom - you could then head towards Wallasey & Seacombe and through the tunnel to Liverpool - the runners would have done 8 - 10 miles before they hit any public roads and it would give those from outside the city a fantastic view of the waterfront that you can only really appreciate from the Wirral side before coming out of the tunnel on the Liverpool side - if you then do Scotlad Road, Leeds Street and The Strand they would then pass the great landmarks from the other side.
Birdy,
There you go mate, instead of knocking all the time - put forward some constructive ideas that the organisers can consider.
Cardiff if in doubt for next year because the half raises more money for less cost....
I hope you manage it because we need more marathons apart from FLM.
(Sorry but I probably couldn't manage an August one because I find running in Summer really difficult because of the heat)
But best of luck to those involved.
Well they have probably filed it straight in the bin where they file other suggestions and have continued to do so for several years. [See the city council’s comments on the previous page re: ‘unwillingness to answer queries and complaints’ on RL’s part.]
To use a famous quote…..“The incompetent with nothing to do can still make a mess of it” seems to fit well to RL!
At the end of the day mate, let’s be honest it isn’t rocket science to work out a 26 mile route is it? I mean 5 minutes on the Gmap Pedometer site could sort that; it’s the other technical and organisational aspects that seem to defeat RL.
As for the reference to a dead sheep, I think the only similarity is that Howe has/had lots more hair than me!
Supergirl Pam – may you get everything you wish for, including umpteen laps of Sefton Park, because that’s probably what the eventual marathon will consist of! – Go girl!
SN - any race organiser worth their salt should be able to network efficiently enough to attract sponsorship and realise the importance of it.
We all ‘work hard’ but when you take on a paid job you are aware of the challenges involved and should have the competencies to match to enable you to do the very best job you can, thus justifying the salary you receive for doing it.
Attracting sponsorship is part and parcel of organising such events and as such is fundamental to the role.
And don’t offend people that do work really hard and get on with it without whining and moaning and blaming everyone else for their own shortcomings and failings.
Love the line about the moaning Birdy ! V good.
".....I come home, get my kit on, go for a run, come back have a shower…..what’s to feckin’ talk about??!!"
Why come on the forum at all, why bother.....
Keith – as to why I am here, my original profile may clear that up (although this may be hard to find, thanks to Dan the Ban & co!) I am sure if you ask nicely though, Mr Happy will print it here for you, as he has kindly done for me in the past, he’s good like that, you know!
Minsterman – thanks for the positive question, I would LOVE IT if there was a Marathon. That is my whole purpose for being here. As 2008 is the Capital of Culture year, I can think of no better way of celebrating the city’s fine sporting heritage and for visitors to go away with a positive perception of Liverpool and the people that live and work here.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not out to destroy Run Liverpool, what I want is for them to learn for their past mistakes and errors, to listen to feedback and constructive suggestions, to communicate more positively with the running community. And hopefully this will enable them to try to organise a top quality event, not one which is second rate and put on with a ‘that will do’ attitude, which has been especially prevalent in their past efforts.
If the above is possible, - great, bring it on, but if not and they are not up to the job, then give it to someone who can give us the Marathon we deserve.
I am also wondering if you have contacted your local councillor (I am assuming you are a Liverpool resident), and if so, what kind of response have you had?
It's up to RL to come up with the route (again, not including the Wirral & I have major problems with that), sponsorship, any star runners & general organisation. So many cities organise this properly (look at Dublin or a range of European cities) that RL should be able to. If it can't, then hand it over to someone else.
who else could take this on if RL werent here?
it isnt a small job is it
More to the point though - why come on here complaining about Run Liverpool and then when I ask a sensible question - you ask me to look it up ?