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just wondering i anyone could give me some advice, i'd like to start a few flying lessons with a view to getting a ppl, whats the best way to go about it, save up all the money and do it in one go or take a lesson a week/month etc..
There is a bloke on the 3:45 thread who is a pilot, but he doesn't post very often, because he is away a lot, allegedly working. I will put a link there for his mate to see.
I got mrs puffy a flying lesson for her birthday one year and she threw up in the pilot's hat.
I managed 35 hours towards my PPL before packing it in. My enthusiasm wasn't quite what it could have been as I was just doing a couple off lessons a month (if that)..
It's worth having a few lessons initially at your own pace to get a feel for it before committing too much money. Any club will support you in that decision, as ultimately they want you to be happy with them and be keen to progress at your own pace. My club allowed me to pay in installments without having to commit to paying for the complete course.
I quit having only managed to fly solo on 3 occasions. Looking back I do wish that I'd had the opportunity to be able to take a couple of weeks off work and just blitz the remaining hours. Because I wasn't getting the hours in on a regular basis, I could see the cost of the PPL spiralling upwards.
I got such a buzz from the landings!!!(I'll gloss over the fact that I managed to cause some damage on my first solo)
erm.....I crashed it....slightly.
It was a perfect takeoff, circuit and landing at Biggin Hill and all was going well until I parked it back at the club house.
Those Cessna'a might be little but it IS a bit tricky judging the distance to the wing tip when trying to squeeze between 2 other aircraft. Anyway £600 worth of damage to the other aircraft wing and mine was OK. I have to admit that did dent my confidence somewhat for subsequent lessons and I did get some stick for it.
Quite a few of my friends are commercial pilots .... but none are also runners so don't post on here!
You could try www.pprune.org.uk for advice.
Mr Raich is a commercial pilot and also instructs PPL students. His tips are: check out Pilot magazine for info on PPLs, be wary of paying for a complete PPL course upfront as flying schools are prone to going bust, and courses abroad can be a false economy once you factor in accommodation costs, airfares to get there and the fact that you'll have to do your air law exam in the UK anyway. Also flying in the UK is quite different to eg the US because weather systems are different. Lots of people just buy one lesson at a time when they can scrape enough money together.
I've got my PPL. Did it all as an intensive course but it was a bit different for me.
I got sponsorship from the Royal Navy when I was 17 and thinking of joing them as a pilot. After a load of tests I was awarded 40 hrs flying tuition. The condition of it was you had to reach PPL standard by the time you had done 30 hours. It was a two week intensive course but It worked really well for me.
Expensive now though to keep it up.
ok.. fair enough, but after all the hours of training and £££'s, what do you do with your licence....?
thanks for the advice, would have replied earlier but just in from another long day at work, didn't even manage to get half an hour in the gym.
raich, could i pm you please with a couple of questions?
No.. I wasn't kidding.. do people fly Cessna's and the like just for the experience of flying...? I mean.. where do you fly to..? Do you have to buy a plane or can you hire one for the day...?
Its a genuine question.. I don't know anything about it.. if its not a first step towards becoming a commercial pilot as a career what is the point..? Is it the same as spending £150,000 on a Porsche GT3 just to drive on a sunny Sunday for the pleasure of driving, rather than actually driving somewhere specific...?
Fattmatt - if you want to email I'll try my best to answer any questions but Mr Raich is the expert and is away until Saturday.
DV - you can pick up a plane for a lot less than a GT3: we had a Cessna 150 2-seater that I think was sold for somewhere between 12 and 15K. Maintenance adds up - they have to have regular checks. There are also the storage costs. Something like a Cessna 150 costs about £40 an hour in fuel (or at least it did a couple of years ago - it's probably more now). You'll often find groups of people getting together for a part share in a plane, which works out a lot cheaper, or hiring planes by the hour (our Cessna used to get hired out which helped cover the costs of running it). We tended to go up for a half hour to an hour bimble, particularly when we lived on the South coast (fly from Shoreham over the 7 sisters, wave to our house, fly back). We also did the occasional day trip eg from Leicester to the Isle of Wight for the day, which wouldn't have been practical driving. It's not cheap, but not as expensive as you might think.
Raich.. thanks.. interesting.. can you just fly where you want...? How does it work in terms of routes and where you can land etc...? You presumably are still under air traffic control...?
Hmmmm one of these:
or... one of these:
I'm sure both have their excitement value.. and I can't afford either of them....!
yes I do have a PPL, and have had for some years. My primary way of keeping costs manageable is to be part of a group, each owning a 1/8 share of a four seater aircraft. I'll come back here for more chat when it's not bedtime.