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Garmin Forerunner abroad

Hello fellow runners,

Quick question.

I'm off on holiday to Kefelonia (Greek island) in 2 weeks time and I am going to continue running whilst I am out there,

Is it worth taking my Garmin? will the GPS work over there?

Thanks in advance!
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    I take mine to Croatia every year, always works without fail. Took it to Italy, worked fine there. I can't see why you'd have a problem.
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    GPS will work.
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    It might take slightly longer than usual to find a satellite, but it will work for sure. Only place my Garmin hasn't worked is Canary Wharf, where I work.
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    Fido2DogsFido2Dogs ✭✭✭
    The g stands for something that ends in ...lobal image
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    Mine seems to take ages in London, but snaps them up in Dalmatia. Might just be something to do with clouds.
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    Peter - it's the tall buildings. They cause the satellite signal to 'bounce'. They can also affect mobile phone signals and television reception in particularly bad cases. When Canary Wharf tower was first built, people on the west side of the Isle of Dogs lost their telly reception completely. Canary Wharf is the worst area, but with all of London being dotted with tower blocks, the effect on GPS reception is found pretty much where ever they are.
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    Cool!

    Was just curious, it'll be interesting to upload the info off my training runs and map it out on google earth

    :thumbsup:
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    MuttleyMuttley ✭✭✭
    It will work, but you'll need to change the user interface to Greek.
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    change interface to Greek??
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    Mr PuffyMr Puffy ✭✭✭
    It's in the manual, Schmunkee has got a link to the online manual, PM her?
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    MuttleyMuttley ✭✭✭
    Yes, it won't understand the satellites otherwise. Coz you're in Greece, innit?
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    Don't the sounds of the startup/warning beeps change as well?

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    Yes, sounds like smashing china when you do the Greek thing
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    MuttleyMuttley ✭✭✭
    When I used mine in France the startup beep was "ooh la la".
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    And when I go back to Aus, my Garmin plays the first few opening bars of this:


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    Mr Puffy wrote (see)
    It's in the manual, Schmunkee has got a link to the online manual, PM her?
    Are you taking the P155 out of me, Mr P? image
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    Mr PuffyMr Puffy ✭✭✭
    Δεν θα τολμο?σα, δεν ε?μαι ?τι αν?ητα! ?χοντας απλ?ς πλ?κα με cossey image
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    You should be ok in greece but not in places further away like the US

    I'll give you a little bit of science in case you want it...

    Basically the earth is not a perfect sphere, and there are different best fit models of it's shape (geoid's) depending on where you are in the world. The Garmin running watches have pre loaded goedetic models depending on where you buy them from. I think they have at lest 3 versions, a european version, US and far east/oceania version.

    If you are working as a geophysicist (using a commersal gps) to minimise position errors you have to check and change your geoid settings depending on where you are in the world (and within europe) to get a best fit of the earths shape for your current location. For normal gps users who don't need that kind of accuracy it's not a problem.

    If you use your garmin outside of it's geoidetic model zone, in somewhere like new york image you might find that the final distance it gives is out by a few cm every 100 meters compared to a hand measured distance. This is because the geoid model in it will give you a best fit for the earths shape in europe that is not a best fit for the earths shape in the US.  So if your use your european garmin in the New York marathon the distance it says you've run probably won't match the official distance.

    Edited to add link. If anyone is really, really bored you can read about it a bit on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodetic_system  It tells you a bit about the position error(approx 140 m) between the gloabl best fit model and the UK model.

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    KeirKeir ✭✭✭
    F2D wrote:
    "The g stands for something that ends in ...lobal "

    That is all very well, but what happens if I want to take my Garmin off the Globe. Do I need to download some new piece of software? No help from Garmin online manual as usual.
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    Mr Puffy wrote (see)
    Δεν θα τολμο?σα, δεν ε?μαι ?τι αν?ητα! ?χοντας απλ?ς πλ?κα με cossey image
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    Mr PuffyMr Puffy ✭✭✭

    I think it got lost in translation!

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    I take mine when we go abroad every year (France and Spain) and I've noticed that as soon as I switch it on in either country that it changes my data from miles to km and the language changes from English to French or Spanish (depending on where I am).

    You'll probably need to get the special overseas manual as well.

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    Rigbunny - When I used my Garmin in Aus, a question flashed up asking if I'd moved 1000s of miles since my last run, or something to that effect?  (similar to the message if your Garmin is having probs finding a satellite.) The Garmin seemed to record fine, not that I would have noticed the small difference anyhow.
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    I've read my manual and it says just switch it on and it'll track it.

    I'm sure it'll be fine! thanks for the advice peeps image
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    Mine has been very happy in Ireland, Denmark, France, Italy and Malta.  I'm letting it go as far as Crete this year image
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    Little Ninja - I nearly spat coffee over my keyboard reading your teleport type message. I don't have a running garmin but have done geophysical surveys using commercial GPS handsets.

    I really want to get a garmin(or other running gps watch) but have skinny wrists and like gadgets so am struggling to work out which one to get

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    My Garmin Forerunner 205 is for skinny wrists.

    Mine is on the last 5 holes on the strap for me and I have a skinny wrist.

    It still has holes to go on my 8 year old boy lol
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    Rigbunny.... I recently used my 305 in Canada. Seemed to measure fine but now wondering if what you've said makes it more likely to over-measure or under-measure?

     As for skinny wrists I have a 305 and find it fine for skinny wrists. I thought it would really annoy me but actually find it fine.

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    shiny - it could over over and undermeasure a little bit on a single run. I think the only time you would notice it is if you did something like run the new york marathon with a us and european garmin. If you did that they should show different distance travelled at the end. Or if you compared the location coordinates given by a european or us garmin at the same location you should see a difference. Do wrist garmins show gps coordinates?

    If you did a run in the US and uploaded run your garmin it to a map it might not show the correct route but it should be close. Another thing to remember is that gps' have a error factor. When I was doing survey work we had to have a position accuracy of less that 2m for our survey stations but the built in error in gps units was 5m.

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    Rigbunny wrote (see)

    Little Ninja - I nearly spat coffee over my keyboard reading your teleport type message. I don't have a running garmin but have done geophysical surveys using commercial GPS handsets.

    I really want to get a garmin(or other running gps watch) but have skinny wrists and like gadgets so am struggling to work out which one to get

    Are you referring to the 'Have you moved thousands of miles' question?  The watch does genuinely do that.

    I have a small wrist and find the 310xt pretty good but its functions may not exceed what you need ie bike/swimming. You can try putting a sweat band under the watch too
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