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I just don't get how americans, arguably one of the least tolerant, selfish nations in the world, allow a system where tips are seen as "must do". Talk of 10% tips, if the service has been bad is a joke...It's down to the employer, not simple punters to subsidise them!
Just keep thinking of the bit in one of the Home Alone's where the porter sticks his hand out asking for a tip, and the kid gives him some chewing gum instead. I'd probably be like that, or give some smart alec bit of advice (tip).
I'd probably have to make full use of my running to get out of trouble though
Yes, I'd be happy with that - especially as it'd save the social awkwardness associated with tipping
SuperCaz wrote (see)
Last time we were in USA we tipped the hotel staff. We then found out when we paid the bill at the end of our stay that tips were added on to your bill so you were not expected to tip any of their staff at all. We were not happy when we discovered that we had tipped twice!
That would have so pissed me off!
I was irritated enough with the little envelope left in the room for the tip to go in. By the end of that trip we'd no money left, so they didn't get a tip anyway.
I don't go on cruises, but I understand you're "expected" to allow a certain amount for tips for the crew? Stuff that.
I used to tip my hairdresser, when he worked in a salon, but now that he works for himself, I don't. Never knew whether this was 'right' or not though!
Badly Drawn Bloke wrote (see)
Turn it around then, would be happy for all items on the menu to be 10%-20% more expensive yet know that the staff are being paid a better wage without the need to tip?
We had a discussion on this whilst we were in Sweden at the weekend - what do you do? We came to the rule that if we had exceptional service - then round up and add something on but not otherwise. In Europe, most people are paid above minimum wage for the service they provide. A friend of mine is a chef and she wanted to tip the equilivent of £10 for basic service (the waitress kept hovering to take our plates away from us....)
Having worked in a place where everything was "divided up fairly amongst all of the staff" and not receiving anything - i'll only tip if i know it goes to the person directly and never on a credit card.
If I'm away on business, it's "exceptional" if we can tip.... and we need to provide reasoning behind it.
That's the trouble isn't it Wilkie - you just don't know if you can trust the restaurant to pay their workers a decent wage.
I know that Harvester do pass tips on and that the staff, yet Prezzo, which is a bit more expensive than Harvester, don't. Garfunkals (a chain I vowed years ago to never eat in again) generally employ illegals, pay them next to nothing and then charge them huge amounts for uniforms etc so I doubt that any tips there would be given to staff; and their food is shite and the service appalling.
BDB, perhaps you need to start frequenting a better class of establishment!
My Squeeze's son used to wash up in a pub/restaurant. He got a share of the tips, and usually came home with about £30 of tips per session.
I wouldn't eat in a Harverster/Garfunkels - I'd rather cook at home than pay for their food. If I'm paying for someone to cook for me, I want it to be of a higher standard than I could produce at home.
I rarely eat out either, BDB.
It really pisses me off if you get crappy food and poor service, so I rarely risk it.
And I really enjoy cooking