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1. It'll tell you where you are i.e. a grid reference and altitude aswell as speed and distance.
2. It'll capture a track log that can then be downloaded to your PC to show your route on a map, altitude profile and speed / mile splits. It doesn't make it clear whether it comes with software to do that or whether you'd need to something like Trailgauge or OziExplorer to do that.
3. It doesn't have that awful arm pod.
A track log is used by the trackback facility where it records a breadcrumb trail of where you've been using a series of points. You can't access any individual track point but only display or follow the track as a whole. You can normally have as many tracklogs as you want providing it fits into the memory, this is usually limited and I find with my etrex that there's only really room for about 3 15 mile runs. The other thing to bear in mind is that when you 'save' a track log it is compressed and all the time (hence speed) information is lost so you can only extract speed information from the active track log.
now can u tell me if i want one of these or geko 201 ??
RRP in the UK = £176, RRP in the US = $160 = £104 approx
Sounds like rip off the Brits again..........
If you're going to be running off-road in the sort of place where you might take a map and compass or altitude is of interest (e.g. fell running) and you already have a HRM or don't want one then go for the Garmin. Also if you'd like to use it to view your routes on a map on your PC you can only do that with the Garmin.
I'm going to go for Timex (instant gratification, I can get my hands on it NOW) but will probably get the Garmin or similar (answers to questions above pending) as well. Can always have a play with it and give it to my mother the hillwalker for Christmas (in the certain knowledge that she'll give it straight back to me with a "don't be ridiculous dear").
pretty small.
as i understand from andrews post... the forerunner does both. ie it logs your current route so you can retrace your steps in the short term. you can also set 100points in memory for longer term reference. not sure if you can save and reload routes.. anyway.
the geko is what i used to call a proper gps.. ie more designed for navigation with more points in memory & other features. but of course it also displays speed (tho probably not in min/mile)
it's very small, and would suit an arm-band or belt clip.
It's not so great for running though because you have to hold it in your hand and the speed is in mph (or kph).
I think the forerunner will be the best of both worlds in that it is designed for running but still has all the navigation features that you'd expect of a GPS (unlike the Timex).
Very basic question . . . .
For a runner who simply wants an ACCURATE speed/pace/distane readout, is this new Garmin all-in-one a better performer than my Timex (which gives rather varied readouts over the same route)?
i've managed to resist even looking at it for more than a minute, i really can't afford to buy another gadget!
and you do have wrists, i've seen them. they were the things making sure that your hands didn't drop off while you were holding your pint at the london social
we got two in our delivery yesterday, and sold both within an hour to instructors!