If I could answer the OP's original question in a different way - how much has your WAVA improved since you started running in your 40s? Some selected points for me:
First ever half 2005, age 47 WAVA 55
Stockholm mara 2005, age 48 WAVA 53
Prague marathon 2008, age 50 WAVA 58
Prague marathon 2009, age 51 WAVA 59
Oslo marathon 2010, aged 53 WAVA 63
Oslo marathon 2011, age 54 Wava 66
Oslo marathon 2012, age 55 WAVA 68
Oslo marathon 2013, age 56 WAVA 70
The WAVA is still a bit higher for shorter races, possibly indicating I need to keep working on the endurance, but the gap is closing. I don't think those stats are particularly impressive or exceptional, more an indication of change over time of a club level runner. So I guess that's some kind of indication how much you can improve if you keep going.
I didn't run a step between leaving school at 18 and hitting 40 when I did the Great North Run in 2:09. I got my half time down to mid 1:40's within 12 months, then 1:38 in the 2nd year. After a couple of years at that level I got serious about marathon training and steadily improved until at 49 I got my half time down to 1:24 and marathon to 3:07. My plan was for an all-out assault on a sub-3 at 50 but sadly I got injured and missed most of last year. VLM has come too soon for a sub-3 attempt next month, but Abingdon in October is now the win or bust sub-3 target, and I figure a sub-3 time at 51 will be a good point to retire from marathons and concentrate on shorter distances and a couple of other goals that don't require quite so much time (such as achieving an 80% wava or a 5k (or longer) at under 6 minute miling).
Long slow run today - 14 miles done. Since the beginning of the year I've been more disciplined with my long runs making sure I run at a lot slower pace. Last year when I first started every time I went out for a run I wanted to run faster every run even on long runs. I ended up being completely run down, zero energy. How naive is that.
But hey i think that's because of my competitive nature which I'm keeping in check now so I can smash my times on race days.
It's weird - people just seem to be gifted with speed while others are not. I have no idea what it is but I know i am in the turtle camp, i am very very sorry to say.
I've heard you will improve over a 10 year period no matter when you start. No idea if that's true, but I'm sticking to it. I will therefore achieve my goals well over 50.
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If I could answer the OP's original question in a different way - how much has your WAVA improved since you started running in your 40s? Some selected points for me:
The WAVA is still a bit higher for shorter races, possibly indicating I need to keep working on the endurance, but the gap is closing. I don't think those stats are particularly impressive or exceptional, more an indication of change over time of a club level runner. So I guess that's some kind of indication how much you can improve if you keep going.
I didn't run a step between leaving school at 18 and hitting 40 when I did the Great North Run in 2:09. I got my half time down to mid 1:40's within 12 months, then 1:38 in the 2nd year. After a couple of years at that level I got serious about marathon training and steadily improved until at 49 I got my half time down to 1:24 and marathon to 3:07. My plan was for an all-out assault on a sub-3 at 50 but sadly I got injured and missed most of last year. VLM has come too soon for a sub-3 attempt next month, but Abingdon in October is now the win or bust sub-3 target, and I figure a sub-3 time at 51 will be a good point to retire from marathons and concentrate on shorter distances and a couple of other goals that don't require quite so much time (such as achieving an 80% wava or a 5k (or longer) at under 6 minute miling).
Long slow run today - 14 miles done. Since the beginning of the year I've been more disciplined with my long runs making sure I run at a lot slower pace. Last year when I first started every time I went out for a run I wanted to run faster every run even on long runs. I ended up being completely run down, zero energy. How naive is that.
But hey i think that's because of my competitive nature which I'm keeping in check now so I can smash my times on race days.
It's weird - people just seem to be gifted with speed while others are not. I have no idea what it is but I know i am in the turtle camp, i am very very sorry to say.
But are you an improving turtle though Khanivore
Hitting 50 was a killer for me.
Sounds good to me PSC
Going to try a 5.30am run tomorrow, never run at that time before. Bet my bed wins though, need to run early busy day.