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Aren't all pirates big kids at heart?
Fair point!
So is the Pirate champs going to be at Mallorca next year then?
If we're not careful, the pirates will be spread across half a dozen events!
I guess the answer will be finalised at Austria at the end of June.... which discounts Lanza pretty much!
Set a date for votes to close
Its either that, or we agree who's making the decision!
Personally, I think a vote sounds a good idea.... but its a bit different from how its been done in the past, and I wouldn't want to upset any of the old hands!
Someone call??
Wind her neck in
personally I would like to think that we would nominate a race and everyone would follow along and enter that race, I do however think that (at the moment) most peop,e would do the race they fancy
putting it to the vote is an idea but you still run the risk of 19 people voting for Vichy and 21 voting for Mallorca and nothing changing numbers wise ....
personally I am favouring Mallorca for the late season effort for once,
Vichy is a close second as there have been good reports and Barcelona as it is quick
why not vote on the 3 giving points 3, 2, 1 ... Best being 3
What month is Vichy & Barcelona?
End of August and start of Oct respectively
Ok, so both quite late as well !!
yep... I like the idea of Mallorca, but any of them would be OK.
3,2,1 scoring sounds good.... let's give it a day or two for people to object to the idea of a vote if they want to, and then (asuming there aren't any big objections) I'll put together a quick SurveyMonkey survey, and we can get a decision made.
Putting to the vote is all well and good, democracy and all that but do you just get the lowest common denominator? Are the people voting committed to entering their chosen event or committed to going with the majority decision.
Similar things happened when Henley was eventually chosen and in the end about 8 people raced there. There were those singing the praises of Henley, how cheap it was, UK based yada, yada, yada but they didn't enter.
Im not saying a small minority should railroad others or that the decision lies with a small group. Successful pirate championships choice is usually made by achieving a critical mass of support, a good sales pitch and a majority brought on board to support it.
It also means people nailing their colours to the mast, 'I fancy this, that and the other doesn't do that'.
I don't think the Pirate Championships should be about the most popular event , if it was it'd be Outlaw every year. To me its always been about a bit of an adventure, somewhere that has an appeal (for whatever reason). A
Anyway, those are just few of my musings and thoughts.
PS. Western Australia for 2017
I think that Vichy would be a good call, not been done before at a champs before, not expensive (entry or travel). School holidays will make it much easier for alot of people and the half distance the day before means that other half's, retired and those working up to full distance can join in.
I agree (with Barley, oh no) a critical mass is needed otherwise we could end up with another Henley, a couple of lists or a vote type thing could prove the mass has been achieved for a certain race but a majority vote maybe a step too far after all we are pirates.
Barlos, that was kind of what I was saying regards voting but we'll reach stalemate
Scuba, I was having similar thoughts regards the half at Vichy too...
Even if the Pirates don't go to Vichy there's a fair chance I will. I'd like to do an IM branded race and Bolton doesn't do it for me and Tenby would be hard to do as the kids are back at school then, they won't take a day off (I'd let them) and they want to come too.
I'm not sure I've added anything here apart from emphasising that personally I'd very much like it to go to Vichy!!
What a top idea having the half the same weekend at Vichy also. I like that. Watching you tube videos it looks pretty too
Well, its certainly got the debate started!
Personally, I'm not that fussed where it is, as long as we're all generally heading to the same event, and not spread across three or four.... hence the enthusiasm to not let it drift with people starting to commit to different venues.
I guess, Mallorca has family appeal, Vichy is good for travel, and for me personally, Barcelona is easy, as my parents live a few minutes from Calella, so makes it cheap!
As per Barlos' point.... I'll go wherever the ship sails, as for me, the event is made by the pirates.
It's previously been the case that those who were on the sailing of the previous year decided where the next one would be, going back a few of years. Lanza became the defacto (sp?) championship race due to what happened at Henley as Barley mentioned above and the debate was had on the celebration day resulting in France, pretty much same last year pre-race that we'd go to Austria this year, on that basis it's in the hands of those who make the effort to support Pirate events. If the likely options are late-season then there's no chance of missing the boat with Austria being a good month or so before opening of the contenders.
By the way, I have no vested interest in 2016 as I'll be doing a Robinson Crusoe, so you can go where you like
Vichy looks good but I think it's a 16hr cut off, but it does have a 70.3 and full distance the same weekend to give a lot of choice to people.
Anyone know what accommodation is like in the area?
stops the picnic and faffing around in transitions.
speak for yourself.... I look forward to having a read of the paper in T1....