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5m inc strides, hammy still a bit tight
The Manchester tracker isnt working !
18th birthday in our house today.
All adults now then TR? Big celebrations planned? I usually do my last long run on the Thursday.
Back to having no pace today despite the new shoes:-(
LMH - 18 to 20 Thursday? He has loads of nights out planned, and is off college. Cant see me getting a lot of sleep this week as the SPO will be worried til he gets home. Big night planned for saturday, i timed the Brighton entry wrongly, he'll be coming home when im getting up.
Wardi - yes, they probably expect a certain amout of tracking traffic and recieved a load more.
Looks to me that the Manchester 3 were all roughly where they should be, though WTG will be frustrated that he couldnt have found another minute. Good come back for a fat lad though. Stevie did very well off a short build up due to those calf issues, all 3 should be proud of themselves.
A just reward for an excellent campaign SJ.
Knew you had plenty to knock off SW after Abo - sure you'd have been troubling the 2:50 barrier with a more consistent build-up so good target for the next one.
Look forward to the reports.
Always good when the spring marathons are properly underway. Well done SJ & SW, nice to see the hard work pay off.
Last proper long one for me this morning, 22 hilly miles, mostly off-road, nice and easy. 16 or so next weekend and 10 the weekend before VLM is my usual plan.
12 on tready with a block at MP or faster. Toes ok, but had to stop and take my shoe off halfway through and the ball of my foot was red red hot. Hoping after weds can get back to winflos or Pegasus
TR - another milstone logged. Happy sons bday.
LMH - taper time will sort it.
CD - sounds like a pleasant outing.
And absolutely delighted to see SJ rolling back the years and knocking out a great marathon time. Enjoy celebrating!
Very little running for me of late as I had calf/tendon issues which only resolved through rest. No idea when I'll next try to run a marathon as my current 'long' run is 7 miles. I will now surface a bit more, but was licking my wounds for the last 6 weeks.
Well done Stevie.
Sorry to to hear that you've had more issues Joolska.
I hope you're right Mennania - no idea why my pace is so bad this year compared to the last couple.
TR - I usually do a last 20 on the Thursday this week, not sure if I will this time round. Making it up as I go along as usual.
SJ - very strong pacing, and well executed campaign. Youve made big gains in the last 18 months.
Jools - i hope you get a better run of running luck now. I feel for you, i had a few years like that and didnt run a mara for 3.5 years.
LMH - you can still do a 20 next weekend, ive done it a few times. But its probably not so wise as we get older. Having said that charlie will do a full mara 2 weeks out.(and aongish run 1 week out).
Turned up at our parkrun y'day and there was a guy (Adam Clarke) who was going for Marders' course record of 14.58, which he set in 2011, the week before his marathon PB of 2.16. Wished him good luck, but said it was a tough record since it's not the quickest course, and there was a bit of wind. "Don't worry, I'll be alright" was his response. He ran 14.31!! Extraordinary how far ahead he was at halfway before he was lost to the sight of everyone.
Popping in primarily to congratulate SJ on a great run at Manchester. I did try the live tracker, but it wasn't working so I went for a run instead
I haven't read back much, but did see Padams post about mini-P: I hope all is well now.
So I haven't been reading or posting much, but at least I've been running. I think I've put together a decent campaign for London. Today was the last 20+ long run (21M), so I was determined to make it count. I figured if I could run under 2:30 for the 21, that'd be a good effort. The plan was to run the first 11M comfortably and then jack it up for the final 10. A quick mental calculation at 11M told me that last 10 would have to all begin with a 6:, and they duly did (except a couple of uphill miles). Around 68min for those last 10, just under 2:29 for the whole thing, and I never felt out of control. So I reckon I'm in as decent shape as I've ever been. Looking forward to seeing a few of you at the Red Lion.
Thursday is as close as I'd go TR.
That is a different league Dan.
SWh - congrats on the pb.
Dan - totally agree that my body seems to suffer more than most, but at least I know why now! 14:31 is proper shifting!
TR - fingers crossed for your Dad.
Padams - scary times. Glad jr is ok.
I still went to Manchester, but my other half and I took it as a long overdue bit of quiet time and stayed away from race stuff all weekend, bar a quick stroll down to the finish Sunday afternoon where we bumped into JoeB of all people. Cheers for all the comments on my situation. It's just a relief to finally know what has been causing all the issues. A total weight off my mind.
great runs and times SJ / Stevie
i think I used to do quite epic race reports, and I was thinking about this thread whilst I was doing the marathon, and that nothing was happening and it was quite boring in the race. Perhaps that was my own doing, I made the decision on Saturday to go with earphones. In my last road marathon I ran 2.43 with them in and totally zoned out. I felt selfish at the time, but I get carried away with the crowd, and thought I'm here to do a job. I maintain that that run in 2012 at London, and , my first sub 3 (Shakespeare 2008) are the only ones that I've achieved very very close to what i wanted. Rather ironic enough that the marathons between those times I was in far better shape!
So, big life changing events in this marathon campaign. Couple of injuries.still carrying 'a bit'
but in a good place and frame of mind. I'd have snapped anyone's hand off given the chance to shoot for 3 hours if I was offered it last autumn.
Blagged my way into the front pen, met Jason again who was very relaxed, and chatted with clubmates, hanging back in the pen.
Off we went, seeed quite pedestrian initially watch saying 7 something but focussed on ,y breathing and got into a rhythm. Didn't want to fall behind the 6:52s, so was pleased to see 6:45. Perfect! feeling good.
Next one 6:39, pings a little earlier than the mile marker
6:44 earlier again, but seemed to hold that same distance in advance of the markers for most the marathon.
6:43 6:40 had a gel. At 6 an old mate came alongside had a quick chat but I realised I wasn't breathing properly so politely moved him on. 6:45
i was starting to get bored now, was helped briefly when a rather Buxem young lass came sprinting past to hand a runner some gels or something, I'm sure there is a story there.
6:44 6:48 6:44 6:48 6:42 6:49 (flyover before heading into a village). At 11, I'd noticed my right hamstring was feeling tight on one of the corners. 6:33 back over the flyover and halfway about 1:28 something, but probably a bit slower where the official half way marker was . I wasn't willing it to get to 20. I knew if I could keep in the game I'd have a good chance.
6:46, 6:45 and I'm noticing my feet are really tingly and sore, and a bit of doubt comes in but I push it away.
the next parts to 20 I found pretty hard. And I recall an old TR saying that they dont hand marathons out in cereal packets! 6:50, 6:53, 6:58,6:56 6:56. And I get to 20 miles.
it was at this point I took stock. What do I really want? I want to do London and get gfa, do I ease it back 7:05 - I'm easing it back and I don't really want to. I said to myself that if I keep moving, I'll have a fast last mile, and if the mile markers correct themselves I should have a chance of getting under 3. 7:08
Then the sub 3 pacer comes past me (ffs) 7:17, 7:18, stay with it keep moving, it's only a couple of miles.
Get to the 40k marker, and work out that I can still get it I get it If I work. Then quite a bit further I see the 25 mile marker - I'm like wtf. Still hoping it'll correct itself. 7:17.
last full mile, breath deep avoid cramp which was twitching. 6:56 and I see the finish line stream on a large tv I can see it's on 2:57, and we turn onto a long straight. I'm hoping it's going to be near, and I've prepared myself that if it says 2:59 and going to go full on, it comes into view and it's already saying 300 I'm thinking, bollocks, but go hard for 6:29.
3hrs and 44 secs.
i know I clenched my fist as I crossed the line so I was definitely pleased with it.
I ran strong and it was good to be back on the scene after all this time out.
The ups and downs of a marathon were summed up in one moment for me in the race village.
The jubilation of seeing the erdinger tents, only to then notice the alkohol free sub notes. (Ffs)
so I think I got what I deserved, I don't think I could have done anymore, and I'm made up with it frankly. London gfa (assuming they don't mess with it!)
this one can go with Shakespeare and 2012 as my best relative performances.
only mistake I found from my training, is that for my feet to hurt means I didnt do enough runs on the road (plus excess weight probs!)
so, next up I have to throw my leg over my bike, get swimming and get this ironman done end of June. That will get me close to old racing weight. Then I have the summer to build for Berlin marathon - and who knows what time I'll be shooting for at that one.
thanks for the support, it definitely makes a difference doesn't it!
SJ - fantastic effort, sound like you judged that perfectly! Thoroughly deserved.
WTGY - as you said, you couldn't have done any more, so you have to be pleased. Puts you in a good place for the IM too.
Some nice final long runs being done by lots of people too.
As expected, I got ill on Friday evening and spent the whole of Saturday in bed. So Mrs P looked after mini-P all day, and then we swapped on Sunday because I was feeling a little bit better and she got hit with it! I feel almost back to normal now, just a bit weak from lack of food. I'm hoping we're through it all now and we'll all be back to normal in the next day or two.
I haven't run for over a week now, but will probably wait until tomorrow to try anything.
SJ, StevieWh -- hooray, well done both!
WTGY -- epic comeback!
TR's right, I'll do another full training marathon two weeks out (next week) probably. Yesterday's was my reps/tempo session, then steady -- marathon in about 3hr09, but then did a little more at an easy pace to make 28M, which felt fine. Fuelled only by a pint of tea beforehand. So my endurance is fine, but the paces in the workout were poor still -- I think my plodding has been just too slow to work the usual high-volume magic perhaps, and I need to quickly add some icing to my cake. Right now I could be struggling to at least keep sub-2:45, whilst I'm nowhere near my "usual" 2:40. So I'll maybe ease up on the miles this week and try and get in some quality mid-week sometime, ahead of another quality long run next Sun.
Padams - Never rains but pours. Hope you all have a far better week.
Enjoyed your report too SJ, so well-paced, well done again.
Congrats too SteveWh on the time, given the disrupted training and most of all the PB.
12m y'day with 5 @ planned mp, averaged out at 6.18 which i will gladly take next Sunday. Looks like going to be a bit fresh at 8 am, current forecast saying 6C 'feels like 3C' c'mon this is Paris in Easter!
WTG - pretty good ROI that, hopefully it'll motivate you for Berlin. The 3.01 got me out the door a lot over the winter, but i think it was the cramps that came with it thst was the bigger motivator.
CW - if you are running to HR at vlm, then you can relax and see what happens on the day, you might surprise yourself.
OO - hopefully it'll warm up a bit for you, early days for weather forecasts, im not looking yet.
Padams - hope you are all on the mend now.
The SPO was awake until my youngest came home from his bday booze up at 3am, which kept me awake, so 6am alarm was a shock. So im not in my happy place today, my back and hammy are still not right (got physio again tonight), but more importantly my dad isnt very well again, and still has an infection and complications. Hopefully in a few days all will settle.
@WayToGoYet that's still a great run, remember we don't count the seconds in a marathon! Great effort there too @saintjason @StevieWh, great early sub-3 bar set for the rest of us running this spring.
Managed 18miles yesterday @7:40min, mostly comfortable when out there even if niggly-sore afterward driving my son to his swimming. (my physio would scold me if she knew I was sitting still afterward!)
Still, it's much better than 2 weeks ago. That's 57m for the week, most I've done since Feb. if I can get that to 65 this week and no worse in the hip i'll count that another success.
As well as the Tergat/target naivety last week, I must confess to being out of the loop on DBS too. Don't be soft, I'm guessing?!
Sorry to hear of your travails Padams; hope you're out the other side soon.
And sorry to hear about your Dad TR; fingers crossed for you.
12M for me yesterday (7:27av, faster finish). Roll on Sunday.
TGO - Sounds like its working out to be a good week.
EE - Somehow prefer 'don't be soft' think its 'don't be shit'.
Padams - I think that leaving it an extra day would be the best idea. Hope Mrs P is better soon too.
How have you recovered today Charlie?