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SJ - well done on the 21. Agreed, on the back to back campaigns, ive pretty much been marathon training for around a year non stop. I think im starting to improve at long last, but to be fair Brighton was scuppered by a few things and i think would have been in 2.55 shape otherwise. I would rather the solent 1/2 be run the other way.
Jools - you can go sub 90. What do you need it for? National championship race ?
Went to Hants T20 today, it was bizarre as the crowd were cheering the Test Match run chase on their phones.
@saintjason - 4 weeks 70+ is impressive - how is the body coping with the jump up?
@TR - you can certaintly knock those miles out
Im on 3 weeks at 60+ and now that theres quality going in I am feeling the load - got some nueralgia down my left leg which is affecting my calf - easily controlled with Ibuprofen but I dont like taking the stuff
18 yesterday and a session of 3x2 + 2x1 at HMP on Sat means im a touch jaded but only have a 6m recovery to worry about today. !
Joolska - Looks like your in with a great shout of sub 90 at Bristol.
SJ - Fantastic to hit 70+ weeks for a good run now, consistently consistent is the key and key for faster yet easier feeling marathons.
LMH - Agree with your comment on back to back marathons.
TR - Your munching up the miles, 91 m is excellent. And the cricket, unbelievable summer for the England and Wales team.
Menn - Must take some time for the body to adapt to that increase in quality sessions, especially in this heat. A great weekends training though, I'd certaintly take that.
Hope it cools down a bit for you for the weekend, Padams. Have the best taper of all tapers.
First LSR of the Abingdon campaign with a sticky 20.5 m for me in 2:40 y'day to being up 52 for what has been a family and beer affected week. Unsure what my groin issues are, (I wish TR!) most likely a slight sports hernia but could be abductors or simple overuse. Hopefully see the GP later this week to have a clearer idea. The view seems to be its OK to train but to avoid the quicker stuff so the plan is slow decent weekly mileage and ease back when it hurts. I've been lucky the past 3 years with injuries so overdue for something.
Hope you can get some answers from your GP OuchOuch though I'd probably see a physio instead.
Nice MLR this morning apart from the bit where i was bowled over by a just above knee height. Don't think there's any damage beyond scrapes and bruises but my left knee is a bit swollen.
Menn - i like that session and long run combo, good to run long on tired legs. How many sessions will you do a week at peak ? I rarely run quicker than 8mm, so can do lots of double digits, but i think that the mp tempo running will do me good if i can get some done each week.
OO - good one on tbe 20. I had to stop running for groin/pubic area soreness 3 years back, i still get issues from time to time, usually after racing or running hard. Like you i just ibuprofen it, but im not taking them lots.
12m more today.
SJ - very nice consistent training.
Menn - good mileage by you too. I would echo what LMH said about the ibuprofen, but you said "I don't like taking the stuff" so I suspect you feel the same anyway.
More house moving over the weekend but much less than the weekend before and all done now.
11M on Saturday as 6M steady then parkrun, then cooldown home. The parkrun was offroad and a bit undulating, and I didn't want to push it too hard, so took the first lap steady and picked it up in the 2nd lap. It was good fun moving from 4th place to 1st in the last mile and feeling good at the end of a 5k for once! 18:06 overall (course PB is 16:59).
Then 4M easy with mini-P and the dog on Sunday and 6.5M yesterday including one final lap of Saturday's course - left the house at 12pm so it was pretty warm (very little shade on the route), but felt OK.
Been away on hols with the family so practically no running last week (bar a mile on the SW Coastal Path with Mrs TT who's continuing her post-op recovery, and a HR Max text).
Jools - it sounds like a good workout with the tunnel 10k, and you've got a marker for Cardiff. I'm in a similar boat for the champs qualifiers.
TR - good improvement over a year in worse conditions! Looking good for Abo.
sj - sounding in good shape! Nice one!
Menn - will be interesting to see how the coaching works out for you.
Loads of good training going on overall. As I said I had last week practically off. Training was always going to start properly this week. Plan is to train to HR (hence the HR Max test - I'm working off a 'safe' max of 192 based on the test and previous lab testing approach from years back) - to help rebuild volume whilst managing my fibromyalgia.
Yesterday was a fun way to start - a Bingo Run (run laps of just over a mile, pick a number, if it's on your bib then you cross it off, and keep going until you've crossed off all 3 numbers - we ran as a team of 3, with me doing 2 consecutive laps to my team-mates' 1 each). I put a HR limit of 85% HRR on, and treated it as a fartlek workout, as it was basically 1 lap, 30-60s rest (check a number, go again), 1 lap, 20-30mins rest, repeat. We needed the full 20 laps to get our numbers which meant I got in close to 11 miles.
I know it was hot, but given the drift (and eventual pace falling off a cliff) I reckon I wouldn't break 3 hours at the moment, so thinking 6 weeks to manage a sub-75 half at Bournemouth might be a big ask and I'll need a different spring marathon than VLM given my lack of champs time. I'll see how the first 2 weeks go before deciding whether or not to enter it.
Although - i did the 10m again today, as im still off work and found it tough going, but it was a lot warmer than last week. 2m easy, 10m av 6.37.
* i do wonder if i can do this to myself each week, today was bloody tough.
Taper time now then Padams.
Are you planning a taper for your next half TR?
LMH - i will do similar to last yr, which i think was just a couple of easy days. I had a crap run at fleet (1.25) 4 weeks before Brighton when i thought id run well, so I'll see what i did before that too. Its hard to race well so late in the campaign. If i taper more, I'll race faster in the hm, but will then need more recovery. Maybe ive just talked myself into not doing it at all ?
Tipp Topp - i cross posted with you earlier. Good to see you. Hope you go well at Bournemouth, you usually get pretty sharp quickly.
@CharlieW - Hope they return asap - Im icing, compressing and drugging just to keep mine together off similar miles but spread over a week - Dont like to think what id be like after an Ultra
@Little M.iss Happy - I only take them with food an hour before a run - still not ideal but booked in to a physio and ramping up stretches for sciatica which seems to give some relief but reminds me I am pants at stretching and hopelessly unsupple.
@Padams - Decent weekend of running imbetween house moving by the sounds -
@TR - fatigue from prolonged heat is taking its toll on me - I am now running my easy stuff more in the 8.xx bracket to compensate. I had another session today which looked horrific on paper but was a lot better than thought - 3 sets of 3 x 3 mins at 5k pace off 60 with 2.30 between sets. which ended up being a tad over 5 miles at 5.19. Ive got another session of 11 miles alternating from 6.05 - 5.40/45 on Thursday and an easy 20 on sunday. - It seems that I can expect two challenging sessions and a LSR every week. Mileage is being kept to the 60-70 range though.
@TippTop - sounds like a novel way of conning yourself to run 12 x 1m intervals!!
TippTop - you do always seem to get in shape quickly but as Joolska says I think you can run a HM qualifier later.
Tr - front loading the week sounds like a good idea if you're not targeting the half. I'll be tapering for VoY but I expect to be able to pick the miles back up quite quickly (barring injury) as long as I keep them easy.
TR - I'll be building up to those 10m tempos (but at a little under marathon effort) in time. Doing 1 a week with your volume will make you strong. I'm making a point of trying not to come back too quickly this time. I'm hoping using the hrm and building more gradually will allow me to get fit again, but as it'll be more gradual I'm expecting the payoff to take longer.
CW - hopefully everything settles down soon for you.
Jools/LMH - cheers. I just emailed them off the back of your comments. I'd hope that would at least mean Gosport is in the mix.
To give a better indication of where I am fitness wise right now..... a 30min jog at lunchtime (maxHR set to 60% HRR) returned a pace of 9:03/m. Even allowing for the heat that's pretty poor, and probably about 80s per mile down on when I was in pb shape. On the plus side at least I should see improvements at a decent rate!
TR - it only usual;y takes a couple of weeks to get a hard half out of my legs with normal training volume and I have five weeks between VoY and York.
Jaded today
Just 6m easy today, my legs were tired today.