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Helly hanson have brought out a parka style coat using farmed racoon fur around the hood.
Please stop buying their products until they cease this barbaric use of animal products and use synthetic fur like every one else seems to manage with.
Please stop buying their products until they cease this barbaric use of animal products and use synthetic fur like every one else seems to manage with.
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If it's okay to eat produce from farmed animals, it's okay to wear products made from them.
Shall we boycott leather shoes as well?
Sharon Chimp
Fake fur is okay for fashion, but for real suz-zero conditions real fur is more commonly used, and for good reason.
Do I detect another of those veggie-vegan agenda threads here?
Can't say I approve of people buying fancy running gear tho'. Seems to me its a modern capitalist conspiracy to make running too expensive for really fast runners like me. Can't understand why no-one has asked me to endorse their running shoes yet. Time is running out.
OK Chimp, I'm off back to the thread where I belong. I was just geting lonely there.
No Will I do not wear leather, but I do eat meat, I fish and own a gun.
Mutley, "so what" doesn't deserve a reply.
But to your other point
If there is no alternative then I guese there must be exceptions to every rule. But to kill a racoon just so some 15 year old kid can stand on the sreet corner and think they look good while shooting cats with a BB gun. Back to whale hunting for you is it?
Read my posts again. I said that fur for fashion is a no, fur for warmth is a yes. If these parkas are foul-weather gear, then that's fine. If they're posing gear, then that's not fine.
If you're happy to consume the flesh of an animal, then you can't condemn others for consuming the hide. And if you consume meat, you accept the principle of farming (unless of course you dine solely on game; well, you do have a gun ...).
The real issue is the conditions in which the animals are farmed.
The "so what" means just that - so what? So they make a parka with a bit of real fur in it? This is important? HH should be boycotted and deserve to be called "scum" for this?
I haven't stopped that dratted pigeon yet, let alone whales...
I don't have enough money to buy fur coats and I don't want to anyway. I buy leather shoes and bags.
(Throws down large fries in alarm!!!)
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Wee Ironic Piglet
I think this is a worthwhile debate, and everybody's points of view are surely worth exploring. Perhaps most usefully of all, let's examine our own personal prejudices and inconsistencies and see whether we need to make some changes, or whether we are jumping on bandwagons before working through the implications.
Mutley, yes I feel they should be called be scum for using real fur on a piece of clothing when imitation fur would do the job just as well.
Obviously if you're off to the frozen wastes somewhere and it's either you or the racoon, thats a differnt story.
As for smoking something ilegal, not any more. I just read the article and it compounded a bad day. It is something that I can not abide. killing for the sake of fashion.
Laura I agree with you post and apolagise if you think the word too strong. I don't, and believe it quite fitting for a company killing an animal when it's not neccesary.
10/10 !!
Sassie (vegetarian for twenty years, avoider of any animal-tested products, wearer of leather (cowhide only as it's a by-product).
I'm in the camp of seeing little difference between cows and raccoons in this case. I guess if I started a business selling Raccoon Kebabs then everyone would be happy as the whole animal is then being used.
The key bit for me is animal welfare and environmental balance. Restricting Cod fishing to save potential extinction in the North Sea is far more important in my little mind !
Agree though that alternates should be used where-ever possible.
Meanwhile, I'll continue to buy HH products as they do some of the best thermals around.
Then I got accused of being gay for a posting about treadmills.
Things are looking up
Rickster: if you think a modern slaughterhouse is humane, it's quite obvious you've never been in one. And whether there's 'no wrong' in forcing a living creature to face the greatest of all terrors just so you can enjoy a tasty supper when there are perfectly good alternatives available, is a questionable point.
Jane M--since the banning of handguns, gun crime has increased. The only reason pistols were banned was because our illustrious government was seeking support from the masses, who are of course anti-gun (whilst avid to watch the latest Bond movie or buy the latest shoot'em-up). It was people like me and Pizza Man who were affected by the pistol ban, because only us legal and legitimate gun licence holders had our weapons confiscated: the crooks still have theirs. If you're in North Wales anytime, I'll take you down the range and you can find out about guns, because my guess is you've never been near one. If you still don't like guns, fine: but don't try to destroy my sport. Incidentally, how do you think the cow became a leather handbag? I don't think it fell off a cliff!
Ahem. On the fur front: I've been vegetarian for twenty years, and I'm vegan most of the time. I'm not exactly a cuddly nice veggie, either. I agree: if it's the racoon or you, pull the trigger. BUT--it's rare that we're in that situation in the west, and there are plenty of synthetic alternatives available to us that probably work better than fur. The same goes for food. As far as I can see, killing for meat here in Britain is akin to killing for pleasure, with no regard or respect for another creature's existence.
If I was being strictly logical I'd go veggie, I guess, but I can't see it happening.
Iain
If that means you missing out on your sport so be it.