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I can't believe its only a 15 Cert

Hubby and i went to the cinema last night to see Blood Diamond. Has anyone else seen it? If so, was anybody else shocked by the extreme violence, it was so emotional too.
I spent an hour and a half trying to cover my eyes and ears with my coat, it made me feel sick.
We both decided to leave before the end. Something i have never had to do before.
I really think it ought to have been made an 18 cert.
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    I thought the same about Airplane when the pilot got food poisoning. Awful, it would've been a disaster if the inflatable pilot hadn't saved the day.
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    Oh, dear and I fancy seeing blood diamond!
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    Good film. No worse than most 15s (e.g. first half hour of Saving Private Ryan?), I didn't think. But what violence is portrayed is probably more shocking because it's not stylised - it feels real.

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    I thought Blood Diamond was a great film. One of the best I've seen in the last few years. Yes it's brutal at times but the violence is not there to glorify or tittilate. It's there to shock you and make you think.

    If you left before the end then you will have missed out some very thought provoking cinema.
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    Although if all you missed was the last 2 or 3 minutes you would be okay. Flippin' Hollywood - why do they feel the need to top things with so much cheese? It's a film, not a pizza.

    (rant over)
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    I don't agree, i think that 'real' violence was used as entertainment.
    It wasn't some mindless horror film, and i thought it was vile.
    Some people are obviously more desensitized to violence than others and can see it as only a film.

    Mister W - i agree that to judge a film you need to watch to the end, but it made me feel sick so i couldn't stay. Im not ignorant to it, i know it happens, i just don't like to watch it because it stays with me and haunts me. When i was 19 i read the psychological case studies of the two boys who murdered jamie Bulger, this was before i had children and now i wish i never had as it still haunts me, 11 years on.

    My point was that this was more 'hard hitting, emotionally draining and disturbing than any 18 Cert i have ever seen and it was only a 15.

    Maybe its more acceptable these days for under 16's to see this kind of violence, but is that a good thing?
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    In the last 3 days even, the newspapers and radio has been reporting incidents where 16 year old girls have been shot at ice rinks, 15 year old boys stabbed to death over an arguement with a 'chav' and 12 and 14 year old girls gang rapped, burnt and tortured by youths. What about the young lad stripped naked and made to ride thru a burning corn field with his penis, bollocks and face on fire and having his face burnt to mush with the naked flame of a lighter?

    Are you all saying that these 'kids' that are doing this aren't being influenced by supposed 15 cert films just like Blood Diamind (oh and alot more besides)
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    Society's going to the dogs. Let's blame the Hollywood
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    I think you're probably picking on the wrong film there. It was showing the suffering that, directly or indirectly, is caused by the illegal diamond trade. It was not about violence as entertainment.

    Whether under-16s should see it or not is a different question - I only pointed out it was no more violent than many other 15s.
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    Would you have still gone to see the film if it had been 18 cert???

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    SVT - yes, i know, but years ago it would have been an 18. I haven't seen any other 15's that were as violent (yes SPR at the beginning, but no others)
    Didn't mean to pick on the film as such, i was very very shocked.
    I think Snowy that films play a role in how society behaves,its part of socialisation isn't it. It affects societies values im sure.

    I am bringing up two young boys in this world and it worries me.
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    I was more worried that what was portrayed in the film really happens on a large scale in Africa. The diamond industry may have tidied its act up a bit, but the portrayal of child soldiers is accurate and something still happening today.

    That worries me more than the chance that someone aged between 15 and 18 might see the film.
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    I actually thought that BD wasn't that violent.

    I think the horror was due to the emotional impact of the events rather than any graphic blood and gore. Casualty/Holby City shows far worse but it's impact isn't as great because it's a soap.

    This film was gritty and unpleasant in places but it upset me because it portrayed real events and I could empathise with emotions rather than because of any graphic or unnecessary violence.

    I thought it was a great film and would highly recommend it
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    Yes the violence is thought provoking, Im not saying it wasn't a good film and that it wasn't mean't to be thought provoking. I just don't believe that children of 15 NEED to be thinking about issues such as this just yet and im not convinced that a fifteen year old has the intelligence to understand that this was the intention of the film.I have no problems with the film, just with the certification.

    I choose not to watch violence like that for my own reasons, but under 18's still need guidance (or will i be accused of wrapping them in cotton wool)

    Mrs Pig - Would you recommend that your 15 year old son or daughter watch this film?
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    Yes

    But I would discuss it with them. One of my teens is very squeamish but I thought the subject matter very provoking and would hope they would too.

    I'd rather they watched this than Casualty Eastenders, Neighbours etc.

    I'd want to then have a conversation about it
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    Ok, well im shocked!
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    My daughter is very mature. If I discussed this with her she would probably opt not to go...and that would be fine.

    Have you got teens?

    They are exposed to many horrors. It's better to do 'it' with them than hide life.
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    Egg, you clearly do have a problem with the film or you wouldn't have walked out. Blood Diamond depicts terrible things that happened in Sierra Leone and yes they're unpleasant to watch but I'd rather see violence that makes me uncomfortable than violence that washes over me without affecting me. I dislike films such as Terminator because the violence is depicted as normal and without consequences and I think that has more of a negative effect on teenagers.

    I would suggest that the emotional impact of the film might be more of a problem to 15 year olds than the violence.
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    Mister W - yes i agree, it is the emotional impact caused by the violence that i find a problem for young teens. Its very 'real' when families are forced to watch as their children/parents are splattered against walls by machine gun fire or have their arms cut off in cold blood. As i said I have a problem with the film because I choose not to see violence like that and a 15 certificate didn't give me forwarning. Also i believe that if i feel like that, as did my husband, then maybe a young teen would do too.

    I don't have teens no, my boys are very young, just 5 and 3 and i do understand what you mean Mrs Pig. You are obviously very close to your children and know that you can reassure them if they found the film disturbing. Im just not sure that all teenagers have that safe family unit at home.

    The group of young teens that where there last night certainly didn't appear to be on an educational visit to me.
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    Mister W - please correct me if im wrong, but im quite sure that the Terminator films all had an 18 certificate?
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    Good points well made, Mister W.

    Some 15 year olds might be negatively affected emotionally, some might find the violence exciting and something to be copied (I'd suggest this to be a very small minority, and this wouldn't be the sort of film they'd watch) and some mihgt be inspired to try and make the world a better place by addressing the issues raised.

    I'd suggest it's up to parents to know their children and decide. My kids are too young to really say whether I'd let them watch or not when they were 15, but I'd think that I would and discuss it with them afterwards.
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    Or maybe they were a 15...i can't remember that far back, but i know what you mean about it being passive.
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    Terminator - 15
    Terminator 2 - 15
    Terminator 3 - 12
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    Jesus a 12 - that IS young. Haven't seen that film. Is it bad?
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    Can't say it left enough of an impression on me to say for sure - I don't remember enough of it! Probably less violent than its predecessors.
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    Oh well, i think i'll accept that i may not be 'worldly wise' enough or just a little too sensitive to this kind of stuff. Its obviously not a problem for most people.
    I just think about the boys thats all and what kind of effect this has on kids who are old enough to see it.
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    Egg free I don't think it's a case of being wordly wise at all. I am quite sensitive and not wordly wise.

    I did think that it was violent but I actually commented after the film that when you thought about it the violence wasn't explicit or gratutitous (can't spell).

    I think it was the emotional impact which you found hard and so did I.

    I've just asked eldest teen what she thought... she says she'd rather see Happy Feet!
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    I watched clockwork orange when I was 14.

    Did i go out and beat up tramps and do a spot of raping?

    Blaming a film in itself is weak argument.
    BD is about diamond trade and the affects on africa. watch any documentry on africa and you can see children, yes childrenwith limbs cut off. Punisment for something. It still goes on.

    So some inmature "15" year old seen the film at the same time. Maybe that is the parent to blame and in whole a lot of society to blame. do they care what they children get up to? Mrs Pig knows what they get up to and is in my eyes bringing them up in the real world.

    You need to look at music(rap etc...my b*tchs?) TV watched(the whole chav Big brother thing and "respect") also computer games(grand theft auto)

    Human nature stinks......name a year in history with NO conflict in the world?

    <soap box burnt and DG style rant over>
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    another point.

    Bond was 12?

    much easier to copy the toutre scene in that, than go hacking limbs off.

    boundreys and all that.
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